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… to ask why Giles Coren hasn’t been cancelled yet?

999 replies

mowly77 · 20/07/2021 22:05

The vile Dawn Foster tweets ffs. But he seems Teflon coated. He will never be cancelled. Three fucking columns a week … a pissing radio show, albeit on Times Radio, which surely no one listens to. I would love to be proved wrong. Absolutely love to be.

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Bryonyshcmyony · 21/07/2021 21:57

@WalkingOnTheCracks depressing, isn't it

WalkingOnTheCracks · 21/07/2021 21:58

@RaquelOak

Yes, I really do. I met her several times when so was a teenager through family friends. She struck me as being so intelligent, articulate and vivacious. And also a bloody good mother to her very young children while her first husband John Diamond was dying of throat cancer. I adored her.
Ah, then you have insight to her real life that I don’t, and it’s fair you should apply it. I have only her public persona to go on.

On the other hand, that’s all I have for Giles too.

Vargas · 21/07/2021 21:59

Why cancel him? Just don't read him. He hasn't written hate speech or incited violence.

What has happened to freedom of speech?

NiceGerbil · 21/07/2021 22:00

'What? That flirty, oversexualised, posh-shag persona she uses to flog balsamic vinegar? You think that’s the best sort of woman?'

You don't know her do you? I don't.

What I do know. And ok it's a bit..

Her mum was distant and she didn't feel.. loved I suppose.
Her first husband encouraged her to do food writing as food was her passion.
He had developed throat cancer. He was a journalist for the times and his illness till he died was written about by him in an open and honest manner. He died at 47.
There are progs with her when young on other food progs. She is nervous. Obviously passionate about food. She comes across kind of. Earnest.
She married Saatchi. Who was photographed holding her by the neck in a restaurant. God knows what he was like at home. Horrendous. He tried to destroy her reputation and career.

So I mean. Yeah the whole sexy thing gets on my tits. Given her early TV and how she was kind of shy and nervous but determined to get across the recipe etc. I suspect that persona was thought up by some (male) TV producers or similar. And yes she goes along with it.

My point is though.

She's a woman and that's it. Some people don't like. Certainly an awful lot of shit that no amount of money can soften.

I don't think she's ever done things like this bloke has done. Has she?

I don't particularly love her or hate her but I'm nearly 50 and remember her first husband and when he died.

I mean it's up to you but she is a person not just oh fucking Nigella with her pouty cooking.

NiceGerbil · 21/07/2021 22:00

Oh sorry that took ages to type!

Other posts in meantime.

I don't know anyone who knows her or anything though. And still that's my view.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 21/07/2021 22:07

@nicegerbil

Yeah, I agree. If it’s fair to judge people on their public persona, she’s awful. But then you’re not really judging a real person.

Same goes for anyone who makes a living out of exaggerating and theatricalising ine aspect of their personality.

I mean, you may not like it, but what you’re not liking isn’t a person - it’s a lucrative and useful caricature.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/07/2021 22:11

Just don't read him. He hasn't written hate speech or incited violence.

I consider antisemitic slurs as hate speech and no he didn't invite violence, just took glee in the untimely death of a young woman telling her to fuck off to hell where she belongs.

RaquelOak · 21/07/2021 22:11

@Vargas I’m not saying that Giles Coren should necessarily be cancelled. I want to cancel my subscription to the Times as I find him vile and offensive though. I hate the idea that I’m contributing to his salary.

NiceGerbil · 21/07/2021 22:13

Smile walking

NiceGerbil · 21/07/2021 22:24

[quote WalkingOnTheCracks]@nicegerbil

Yeah, I agree. If it’s fair to judge people on their public persona, she’s awful. But then you’re not really judging a real person.

Same goes for anyone who makes a living out of exaggerating and theatricalising ine aspect of their personality.

I mean, you may not like it, but what you’re not liking isn’t a person - it’s a lucrative and useful caricature.[/quote]
Katie Hopkins is being deported from Australia due to her social media comments.

The idea that people especially in the public eye can say anything is of course up to them...

But then there may well and sometimes should be consequences.

This bloke-
I enjoyed the progs with Sue Perkins.
I remember something a few years ago he said something on SM (sexist?) and maybe I read on here. She replied saying she was unimpressed. I mean it was probably minor. So yes he does enjoy a bit of controversy (in that case I imagine it was at women's expense).

Anyway I read the thing about the holiday as it was linked on here and seriously it was creepy as all fuck.

I didn't know about the fake account antisemitism stuff.

Laughing at the death of a young woman for me goes beyond being 'contraversial'. That's just appalling.

I said earlier that I mean SM ok. Newspaper columns if they want to hire him ok.

I personally would be very dismayed to see him presenting a BBC (or any TV) prog aimed at a family audience.

That's not 'canceling'.

It's the point that laughing at the death of a young woman is totally fucking appalling behaviour from anyone. And I don't think someone capable of that is a good choice for being a personality etc for family programming. Especially the BBc as we pay for it.

Vargas · 21/07/2021 22:26

@RaquelOak completely agree that it's fair enough to cancel subscription. I am still subscribed despite India Knight, but mainly because I love Janice Turner. If she left i would be off like a shot.

NiceGerbil · 21/07/2021 22:27

What bothers me is that statements that years ago would have led to widespread shock and condemnation.

With SM esp Twitter seem to be.. more acceptable? Oh people say all sorts of things on there. There's much worse said. People don't think on there. So don't take it too seriously.

It's just the way it is on there.

That's a worry.

He laughed at the death of a young woman.

If that is not over the line then fuck knows what is tbh.

(And if course he's done other things in the past that were ???!!).

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/07/2021 23:31

The fake account antisemitism stuff is an interesting lesson in Not Everyone On The Internet Is Who They Claim To Be:
GC does not like Polish people and has been the subject of complaints for his depiction of them as antisemitic, holocaust deniers.
GC has sock puppets.
One of his sock puppets is a Polish plumber.

Giles Coren used this sock puppet to tweet antisemitic stuff to himself.
Hmm

adeleh · 21/07/2021 23:45

Dawn’s mother tweeted last night. Yes, the family have seen the tweet.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 22/07/2021 02:51

Oh that's horrific. That is one of the biggest problems with social media, that people don't think of the knock on effect of family/friends seeing the horror tweets - or simply not caring that they do, which is worse. :(

Switcherooney · 22/07/2021 05:54

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ArabellaPilkington · 22/07/2021 07:16

This.

… to ask why Giles Coren hasn’t been cancelled yet?
Piglet89 · 22/07/2021 07:18

Paul Sweeney is so right.

RaquelOak · 22/07/2021 09:45

@Vargas Top money saving tip: call up The Times and say you want to cancel your subscription because of Giles Coren. They will offer you a 90% discount for 6 months.

KisstheTeapot14 · 22/07/2021 09:47

Somebody tell me what India Knight has done/said, I'm curious now.

Blossomtoes · 22/07/2021 10:01

@KisstheTeapot14

Somebody tell me what India Knight has done/said, I'm curious now.
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8499753/ANDREW-PIERCE-final-shame-violent-ex-major-bragged-touch-Im-MP.html

And still she stands by him.

mustlovegin · 22/07/2021 10:05

So now we are resorting to making a sad situation about 'upper class' vs. 'working class' then

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 10:16

Yes and blaming India Knight for what her dh did. Pathetic

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 22/07/2021 10:18

@Bryonyshcmyony

Yes and blaming India Knight for what her dh did. Pathetic
No one has blamed her for what her husband did
Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 10:19

Erm why has she even been mentioned here then?

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