Ditching my mask from today except for in hospital settings

[Frittataz]

Clearly this is fine legally speaking but AIBU to expect not to be asked to wear a mask from today onwards? I’ll wear one when attending hospital/doctors appointments but that’s it that’s were i draw the line. I shouldn’t be expected to explain myself right? I’ve wore a mask from the beginning and stuck to every rule. I won’t be rushing out to go to nightclubs as I didn’t do that before covid and i don’t suddenly feel the need to surround myself (closely) with lots of other people but I am looking forward to taking my daughter shopping and going to the cinema without having to wear a mask.

I was in town earlier and vast majority were wearing masks but of course in the day they are predominantly the older age groups although quite a lot of the younger mums had them on, the only noticeable exceptions were the 20 somethings - it is a Monday, I guess seeing what happens on a Saturday when there is a younger crowd in town would be interesting. Was in Primark, Marks and Waitrose and masks virtually 100% except for some teens/20s in Primark and most of their staff not wearing them either from what I saw. I wore mine in shops but not outside - some are still wearing them walking along empty streets.

@Namechangedforthis1357

It's a tiny piece of cloth - not a huge chunk of metal like a wheelchair, crutches, oxygen tank etc.

I'm astounded at the selfishness of some people.

This lifting of lockdown will only continue to keep vulnerable people in lockdown.

This dismissal of the very real issues people have with masks is as disappointing as the people who state masks are useless and don't do anything. I'm astounded at your selfishness and lack of empathy.

And yes, I'm someone who has worn a mask throughout.

"Yep the virus goes through the mask .... unless medical grade it really doesn't work"

So yep, looks like my original statement was correct then.

Before the law was introduced there was thread after thread about the maskless would be barred from retailers and more. 😂 As much as people wished then, in reality it didn't happen then. Now it's not even legal how to you expect companies to put it into place?

All I'm saying is I reckon a Venn diagram with Tories, Brexiteers, Mask Deniers and All lives matter apologists would probably be a single circle.

Club can deny you entry for wearing trainers.

A restaurant can require men to wear a jacket and tie.

A beachfront restaurant can refuse entry to people in swimwear.

A swimming pool can ask you to take off your shoes before entering the pool area.

Some religious places will ask you to cover your head or bare shoulders.

Privet property, you are their guest, so they can refuse you entry based on what you are or are not wearing.

I also do think that as long as people are asked to self isolate businesses should be able to protect their staff as much as possible. You only need one idiot how think that although they have covid they feel fine and they still need to go to the shops and don't like wearing a mask either. And before you know it half the store staff need to self isolate.

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

This is going to be really awful for all shop staff - the abuse and aggression is going to multiply hugely.

This could be 100% avoided - all it takes is shop staff NOT challenging people. As they have no right or obligation to do.

If you earn shit money in retail, as many do, is it really worth the bother approaching people? I've been in two shops today and staff aren't bothering to encourage mask use - why would they? Any challenging will be very infrequent.

If a nightclub refuses access for jeans/trainers how do they enforce that?? Yes, bouncers on the door

What have retail got?

Not much has changed for me as I work in a hospital so will still be wearing it then and I will definitely be wearing them in shops. I'm pregnant so no clubbing for me anyway.

Binned mine last night, I listen to government advice, the same advice that told us to wear them.

Government advice is to wear them, so…

@UrAWizHarry

"Yep the virus goes through the mask .... unless medical grade it really doesn't work"

So yep, looks like my original statement was correct then.

You agree with me masks unless medical are pointless

All I'm saying is I reckon a Venn diagram with Tories, Brexiteers, Mask Deniers and All lives matter apologists would probably be a single circle.

@FixTheBone THIS!!!

At the supermarket today, probably 90-95% mask-wearing. Maybe 20-30 people not?

Mix of all age groups, sexes and staff/customers non-wearers.

I suspect wearing will gradually drop over months, mainly as it becomes less of a social faux-pas not to wear one

[quote FunMcCool]@Coldilox no they won’t. They can encourage you to wear one but they can’t legally refuse you service/entry without them.[/quote]
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/can-shop-refuse-you-entry-18636576

When it comes to retailers' ability to enforce their own mask policies, well I expect that they won't, until if or when they have significant numbers of staff get sick or needing to quarantine with covid. At that point retailers might well decide it's worth beefing up security at store entrances etc.

@FixTheBone

All I'm saying is I reckon a Venn diagram with Tories, Brexiteers, Mask Deniers and All lives matter apologists would probably be a single circle.

That is so true🤣

@UrAWizHarry

"Some people feel they are saving lifes by wearing a flimsy bit of cloth obviously aren't aware of the miniscule size of viruses. "

And some people aren't aware of how the virus is carried when you breath out or talk, evidently.

Yes virus particles are small. Yes masks don’t make it completely safe. But they still provide a physical barrier. If someone sneezes, particles are contained instead of being spread metres away.

If they reduce the risk of transmission even a little bit they are worth it.

@TheTallOakTrees

No, I don't.You are obviously struggling with this. Let me spell it out as simply as I can.

Fabric masks prevent droplets from being projected when a person is talking/breathing etc. One of the ways COVID can be transmitted is via droplets.

Now, it's debatable whether masks are as useful as they were now we have the Delta variant, but there is still enough compelling evidence that shows that ordinary face coverings can help reduce the risk of an infected person transmitting a sufficient viral load to a non infected person.

Is that basic enough for you?

@Frittataz

If thousands of people can attend indoor nightclubs and indoor sporting events then I don’t see people should be expected to wear a mask to go shopping.

But nightclubs and sporting events are for entertainment, they are optional, personally I’ll be avoiding these till cases reduce in my area, but that’s my choice, shopping and public transport are what I would class as more essential, if those businesses choose to make mask wearing a requirement for entry, I can see why, it’s extra protection for people and staff who are vulnerable or can’t have vaccines or are anxious etc It boils down to respect and choice, if you don’t want to wear a mask that’s fine but you just need to respect that some places have chosen to enforce mask wearing even though it’s no longer legally a requirement

@FixTheBone

All I'm saying is I reckon a Venn diagram with Tories, Brexiteers, Mask Deniers and All lives matter apologists would probably be a single circle.

I think you’re wrong there. Little though you may like it (and I’m not keen myself), Brexit and Tory voters make up a huge portion of the adult population, maybe 35% if you ignore the apathetic. Anti-maskers are way less, and a lot of them are either far right or far left - Piers Corbyn and the camp of anarchist protestors on Clapham Common don’t look like Tories to me.

And a lot of elderly people vote Tory but have a very clear understanding of their personal risk from Covid and a strong desire for measures to remain in place to reduce that risk.

@FixTheBone

All I'm saying is I reckon a Venn diagram with Tories, Brexiteers, Mask Deniers and All lives matter apologists would probably be a single circle.

Also to state the bleeding obvious a lot of Tory MPs voted to remain in the EU and several Labour ones voted to leave.

@Brusselsprouts21

I will wear a mask until it is physically stripped off my face. Cases are going up and i don't trust people's hygiene. Everyone has their own reasons for wearing/not wearing one. Enjoy being free!

I feel exactly the same. I have had both jabs but that doesn't mean I can't catch Covid and there's no knowing what effect that may have on either me or my husband. The government is clearly going for herd immunity now, with the attitude of "If you die, you die". Rates are rising rapidly with the variants and I disagree with the "Freedom Day" attitude, where all precautions are discarded.

[quote UrAWizHarry]@TheTallOakTrees

No, I don't.You are obviously struggling with this. Let me spell it out as simply as I can.

Fabric masks prevent droplets from being projected when a person is talking/breathing etc. One of the ways COVID can be transmitted is via droplets.

Now, it's debatable whether masks are as useful as they were now we have the Delta variant, but there is still enough compelling evidence that shows that ordinary face coverings can help reduce the risk of an infected person transmitting a sufficient viral load to a non infected person.

Is that basic enough for you?[/quote]
🤣🤣🤣

Someone with covid next to you wearing a flimsy cloth mask will send the virus particles towards you since they pass through masks.

Is that difficult for you to understand?

Whats the old saying - No shirt, no shoes, no service? Well now in a lot of places it will be no mask, no service and rightly so.

Masks offer some protection for the wearer as well as for others around them.

www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

But hey, if you want to hoover high levels of the Delta virus, gamble your own lungs, and participate in the collective cooking up of a new variant...