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My 15 year old daughter was really horrible to me today and my dh backs her up.

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Bryonyshcmyony · 17/07/2021 20:55

She had a sports thing today. She's been training for months (horse riding). I've also been really concentrating on it because I've had to put the team together. Anyway, she did OK but not brilliantly. The team did OK. We had a team chat this afternoon and I was explaining and talking to another girl about what went wrong for her. Dd kept shouting over me and saying she knew what had gone wrong. It was really inappropriate and a bit embarrassing so I said dd please be quiet. She called me an idiot (in front of everyone). Then later when I tried to talk quietly to her about it she said everyone thought I was weird.

Dh said nothing. Dd2 was sweet and backed me up.

I've got home and dh has just said I was mean and criticised dd - I absolutely didn't and never had. He is being really horrible.

I 100% know that dd was out of order here. Its extremely unlike her it must be said. I am so upset with dd and dh and don't know what to do.

I can't sell the horses before anyone says I should, I love them and I ride them.

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AbsolutelyPatsy · 18/07/2021 07:24

i think you shoudl ask them, in the cold light of day, why she called you an idiot and ask dh what he thought you were doing wrong?

AbsolutelyPatsy · 18/07/2021 07:25

perhaps she had confided in dh that she was nervous and that she had made a mistake, and the dh knew this?

KleineDracheKokosnuss · 18/07/2021 07:26

If your dd wants to be like that, why are you doing the horses at 6 am this morning. Get her out of bed and make her do it herself. After all if she doesn’t want her mothers help, and wants to be a cow, and she’s going to have to learn to stand on her own 2 feet. Or she can get her dad to help her.

Valeriekat · 18/07/2021 07:26

@Ratalie
What is wrong with you? Let this go and stop being so picky. You keep saying the same thing over and over again.

endofthelinefinally · 18/07/2021 07:28

I disagree that this level of brattiness is normal and acceptable. I would have been really hurt and upset if my dc (or my dh for that matter) had behaved like this. Tolerating this level of rudeness seems to be a relatively recent thing.

Billybagpuss · 18/07/2021 07:28

Hope today goes well, my dh would often try to take dd side when she was clearly wrong, it takes him a lot to apologise for anything, but these have been some of the few times he’s done it genuinely

Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:31

@AbsolutelyPatsy

perhaps she had confided in dh that she was nervous and that she had made a mistake, and the dh knew this?
I doubt it. Dh said I criticised her after everything she did, which is clearly what she's told him and I can say categorically that is untrue. I'm actually pretty hands off as a sports parent and dd and I have seen other parents absolutely bollocking their kids for doing badly and always been relieved we weren't like that. She was really fun to be with out competing from about 9 to 14 and we had some really fun times. I guess at 15 peer pressure has kicked in and they all pore over each others bloody Instagram comparing themselves to each other. She actually did OK just nerves meant she made a couple of silly mistakes.
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chocolateorangeinhaler · 18/07/2021 07:31

I agree with your daughter. You might have put the team together but you're not their instructor. Pushy pony club mothers are the absolute worst.

malificent7 · 18/07/2021 07:31

I think you need to tell her to be a good sportsperson and take " not doing so well" on the chin rather than getting so down. That way she will bounce back harder.

malificent7 · 18/07/2021 07:31

Does it matter that she " didn't do so well" anyway?

Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:32

[quote Valeriekat]@Ratalie
What is wrong with you? Let this go and stop being so picky. You keep saying the same thing over and over again.[/quote]
I'm ignoring!

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Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:34

@chocolateorangeinhaler

I agree with your daughter. You might have put the team together but you're not their instructor. Pushy pony club mothers are the absolute worst.
I have explained this up thread. My job was to organise, not instruct. And one of my main jobs was to talk to the organisers when things go wrong, exactly so that pushy mums don't do it! Only the team manager is allowed to speak to the organisers.
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SamMil · 18/07/2021 07:34

Could you sit down with your daughter and talk it through? Ask why she was upset and what she thinks you did wrong? At least that way you can try to understand and maybe get to the bottom of any misunderstanding between you. You can also then explain that it's fine for her to tell you if you've done something wrong but that the way she did it upset you. Maybe she'll then handle things better next time (wishful thinking?!).

As an aside, and please don't take this personally, as I don't know you at all so it might not be relevant... I'm a horse owner and there are a lot of pushy parents in the horse world. I know you've said your daughter wants to compete, but perhaps she is feeling pressure from you, not explicitly, but the fact that you are making sacrifices for her, doing all the organising etc. Also, after a disappointment, some people don't want to discuss what went wrong straight away. Some encouragement at trying your best, and reassurance that the result doesn't matter, can be helpful. Then you can talk about what went wrong afterwards, if they still want to.

I'd definitely talk to your daughter, calmly and when emotions have died down a bit, before making any decisions about next time.

nettie434 · 18/07/2021 07:34

It sounds as if your daughter was embarrassed that her wrong advice meant another girl got disqualified. She might also have been disappointed that another girl did better than her. I think she was wrong to call you an idiot but it was understandable, given the tensions of the competition. However, she should have apologised afterwards. Your husband sounds as if he doesn't understand anything about your role as organiser, unsurprising as he doesn't seem to have been interested in what you were doing from the start.

It sounds to me as if you have discovered a talent for organising and that some of the other parents appreciated this. It's sad that you should have decided to give up because of this. Perhaps your husband and daughter are just used to you in the role of supportive parent, and not as someone who is a competent organiser. Is there another age group or type of event you could work with?

Hope the coffee and chocolates helped your early morning visit to the horses!

Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:35

@malificent7

Does it matter that she " didn't do so well" anyway?
To her it does, yes. She thought she'd win it!
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endofthelinefinally · 18/07/2021 07:38

What a pity your DH can't model better behaviour to his child. Sulking is so inappropriate and awful parenting.

Medievalist · 18/07/2021 07:41

I agree with your daughter. You might have put the team together but you're not their instructor. Pushy pony club mothers are the absolute worst.

Read the thread properly maybe?

Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:44

@endofthelinefinally

What a pity your DH can't model better behaviour to his child. Sulking is so inappropriate and awful parenting.
I'm a bit worried that dd isn't going to learn anything tbh. I understand that she's 15 and I totally understand that things didn't go as well as she hoped, but that's horses. But shouting over me and interrupting and calling me an idiot in front of other kids and parents is totally unacceptable. I've just had another really appreciayve message from a mum I suspect they all feel quite sorry for me!
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MyriadeOfThings · 18/07/2021 07:46

@Bryonyshcmyony. Are you saying that following your dd outburst and your DH grumpiness, you’ve given up doing something you enjoy?

It looks like your DH has acheived its aim then :(

Btw I certainly would bring up what happened yesterday. Both to your dd and your DH.
Both because their behaviour was unacceptable.
But also because if the plan is for you to step back completely, they both need to know about itt. FWIW, I suspect neither of them will be keen. How can they be when her dad being there to support her was allegedelly not enough and you were supposed to have spent more time than you did with her at the competition?

Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:46

Dh has buggered off to the gym. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like for him if I got sulky and resentful every time he did that.

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Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:48

[quote MyriadeOfThings]@Bryonyshcmyony. Are you saying that following your dd outburst and your DH grumpiness, you’ve given up doing something you enjoy?

It looks like your DH has acheived its aim then :(

Btw I certainly would bring up what happened yesterday. Both to your dd and your DH.
Both because their behaviour was unacceptable.
But also because if the plan is for you to step back completely, they both need to know about itt. FWIW, I suspect neither of them will be keen. How can they be when her dad being there to support her was allegedelly not enough and you were supposed to have spent more time than you did with her at the competition?[/quote]
They probably won't be keen but something has to change I can't go through another day like that and I'm not falling into the role of being dds convenient emotional punchbag! At least she doesn't get cross with the horse I suppose, I saw a few examples of that yesterday from other competitors which is always upsetting.

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UniversalAunt · 18/07/2021 07:48

Your DH seems to be back of the queue when it comes to your time, energy & commitment. Maybe you’ve had an easy concordein the past about hobbies & the time you spend on them, but the past year has torn up many default settings in relationships.

You have said that he has a business - how is this now, thriving? teetering? set to succeed or crumble?

Covid, just Covid - how has this affected him? Lost anyone? Been ill? Struggled with lockdown? Thrived in lockdown?

Teenager in the house - big emotional shifts there as daughter grows up into young woman, for both mother & father.

Oh, what’s that?
‘The back story is that my brother is an alcoholic and has been calling me every day for a month. I've been really stressed over it and trying to help him and this horse thing has been an outlet for me.’

How long are the phone calls? Five minutes? Fifteen? Fifty?
How do you set boundaries to offset the emotional impact of these calls on you? On your family?
What do the calls achieve in getting your brother the help & support he needs?

You say what makes it all worse is ‘ that dh has been so randomly horrible.’

I say that your DH is calling you out on your choices about where you spend your time, effort & emotional commitment. You seem to have lost your centre by focusing on people & matters away from your core purpose. At the nub of this, your DH is pressing your buttons as there is a grain of truth & common sense in what he says. Do yourself a favour of taking some time to consider what he says.

It’s been a shitshow for so many for the past 18 months & understandably we want to do things to make us feel better, but that does not mean throwing the baby out with the bath water.

It’s hot, everyday life is tiring & looks to continue being stressed.

Take steps to limit the phone contact with your alcoholic brother to a set time on a set date, have your own ritual after this contact to release the emotional tension. You may not feel this but the people around you do.

Bryonyshcmyony · 18/07/2021 07:50

Well organising these teams was my hobby which took my mind off my sibling to be fair!

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MyriadeOfThings · 18/07/2021 07:50

Tbh I have two teens who are competing. I would not expect or accept such behaviour.
Yes they get disappointed. This year has also. Been crap as there was little happening.
But loosing it because you are talking about someone else issues? Nope, sorry.

And I agree she won’t learn anything. But. That’s why you need to speak to her today. In a really calm way.

Nailingnow · 18/07/2021 07:51

I disagree that OP is to blame in this.

She is supporting her Dd in a hobby, doing a role that needs to be done in order for dd and other team mates be able to compete. It is only a bonus that OP enjoys this role. That is a win win.

Your daughter has no right to be rude infront of the others. If she has a problem with anything or has a problem that you are helping her team she should speak to you privately.

Your DH was definitely out of order and most likely this attitude was why your DD was rude to begin with.

What you are doing for your daughter really is wonderful OP. Don't for a minute feel guilty that you enjoy organising to support her and her term Thanks