Reporting someone for failing to isolate

[WouldYouShouldI]

Under what circumstances would you report someone for failing to isolate? Would you report any breach, no breach, or would it depend on circumstances?

I've been told by a friend that a family member of theirs (should be isolating because someone they live with has tested positive) is not isolating, and is even going out to work- and they work with vulnerable people in a medical environment!

Should I report them regardless of the possible consequences on my friend (who will be blamed if they get caught)? Or encourage my friend to do the same, again despite the consequences?

I'm torn!

@MrsKoala

Jesus Christ. Is this what we’ve become?

sadly yes it would seem so , honestly im despairing

I’m Jewish and I don’t take offence, I actually agree with the comparisons. People salivating to dob people in for living their lives- typical of a mn middle class masses for whom isolation means a house , garden and regular income still. Mine your own! Does everyone not realise isolations will stop, the virus won’t- at some point death is always a possibility

But no one is salivating, the OP is clearly in a quandary. Believe me I have self isolated for two wks because of the dc & it's awful, I'm not a fan at all however I did comply. That also doesn't mean I'm a lockdown lover.

He isn't isolating and "and they work with vulnerable people in a medical environment!".

If my mother was in hospital and someone who was meant to be isolting but wasn't and was instead coming into the ward and potentially infecting her and other medically vulnerable people then I would want it highlighted to someone.

@AwaAnBileYerHeid

He isn't isolating and "and they work with vulnerable people in a medical environment!".

If my mother was in hospital and someone who was meant to be isolting but wasn't and was instead coming into the ward and potentially infecting her and other medically vulnerable people then I would want it highlighted to someone.

Agreed.

You’ve got third hand information. For that reason alone you’d be completely unreasonable to report.

I bet all the people who agree with OP also community speed watch.

I must say, it took 2020 to now to make me realise that there really are an enormous number of dumb sociopaths.

Listen to your conscience, OP. It's all we've got.

If I knew people were at risk I would report too, saddened by the number that think it’s ok to ignore isolation putting others at potential risk and just ensuring this goes on longer.

you could be working with medically vulnerable people and be asymptomatic, your lft may be false negative, which is why ppe and social distancing is used

@Guavaf1sh

This sort of post is a warning to us all how quickly we can fall into fascism

This! ^^ Scares me more than covid any day.

Butt right out.

I think you should report.

Do the ‘is this what we have become’ community think we should never report drunk or drug driving either?

Same principles apply, disobeying a law and putting others at risk. And reporting a drunk driver would have far more severe consequences for the drunk driver and their family.

@unwuthering

I must say, it took 2020 to now to make me realise that there really are an enormous number of dumb sociopaths.

Listen to your conscience, OP. It's all we've got.

For the most part sociopaths are considered intelligent. 🤔

For the most part sociopaths are considered intelligent.

Yes, surprising, isn't it.

@warmfluffytowels

We live with many restrictions both laws and guidelines in our lives, wear your seat belt, keep your car road worthy, don't smoke in indoor public spaces due to passive smoking - protect others, 48 hour rule with norovirus, you could go on all day ...is it only covid laws we are allowed to break? Or should we just say fuck it no one wants to be dictated to on what to do so let's just remove all laws and restrictions on everything so we can have 'freedom' to do what we want?

Of course we do, but none of those restrictions mean people have to regularly take big chunks of time off work (with no pay) simply for being in contact with someone who is unwell.

That's not sustainable in the long run. People have bills to pay, children to feed, homes to pay for. You can't just expect people who are perfectly well in themselves to isolate for 7-10 days just because they're in touch with someone who has a virus.

That rule is destroying small businesses as they keep having to close. Businesses can only tolerate so much loss before they have no choice but to close for good, putting people out of work.

I can't blame anyone for not isolating if doing so means they're can't feed their kids or pay their rent.

But you can expect the families of people who are vulnerable to covid do exactly what you've just said everyone else can't do for 10 days but they should just do it for years because no one else can do it for 10 days?

I agree though that self isolation should be fully funded by the government, no lockdowns therefore no need for furlough but funding should be in place so people are not at financial detriment to self isolate. Seeing as they are removing it soon and no one follows it now anyways it's probably a mute point but maybe when they reinstate it a few weeks or months down the line hopefully they will think of the financial situation.

Do the ‘is this what we have become’ community think we should never report drunk or drug driving either?

You'd report because, presumably, you saw them drinking excessively or taking drugs, not on hearsay!

Live & let live.

I'd tell your " friend " to mind their own business

My daughter is supposed to be isolating She isn’t , I’m letting her out with her friends and her friends come into my house You don’t know the circumstances
Fuck off with your curtain twitching and mind your own business

But this logic doesn't make sense.

Fair enough if you have decided due to your own personal circumstances this is the better option for your dd. However that doesn't mean someone who has a vulnerable child for example shouldn't be concerned about the above because likewise they are concerned about their own personal circumstances.

Be very careful with this. My son has tested positive and obviously I am now self isolating. I have been invited to take part in a government study where if you test negative on a lateral flow each day you can then be released from self isolation for 24 hours for essential activities…such as work.
I am 2 days into this and have tested negative so am living my life as pretty much normal.

Comparing reporting someone because you're concerned they're putting vulnerable people at risk and Nazis is just bizarre. People on this site are just insane sometimes.

I think at this stage of the game there has been so much extensive rule breaking - often by the very same people who are criticising others - that we all are at risk all of the time we are in contact with others. But I would tell them that they could lose their job and what I thought of their actions. If I wasn't prepared to do that in person then I certainly wouldn't report them.

But you can expect the families of people who are vulnerable to covid do exactly what you've just said everyone else can't do for 10 days but they should just do it for years because no one else can do it for 10 days

I don't expect anyone to do that. People are vulnerable to all sorts of things - it's unfortunate but humans are not perfect and we do get sick and yes, die. Some of us die younger than others and get sicker than others. It's a horrible thing to have to say but it's true - nobody will live forever and at some point you have to balance the risk.

A friend of mine growing up died of flu aged 14. Thousands die of it each with winter. It's awful and horrible and sad but I don't see people clamouring for isolation as a result.

Ultimately unless the government are prepared to step up and support people who have to isolate, people won't do it. They can't afford to and I don't blame anyone who decides they can't do it anymore.

No judgments from me.

@Rollmopsrule

If the people they are working with are vulnerable she will be vaccinated and so will they.

This is a really common misconception. Quite a number of vulnerable people aren't able to be vaccinated, from chemo patients to kids with heart problems, and many older or immunocompromised people who do get a vaccine won't have the immune response needed to get proper protection..

I wouldn't report anyway, but do think there's a big difference between someone who gets pinged on the app but ignores it and pops out to the shops etc and someone who is living with someone who they know is ill with covid and then going to work in a hospital.