Reporting someone for failing to isolate

[WouldYouShouldI]

Under what circumstances would you report someone for failing to isolate? Would you report any breach, no breach, or would it depend on circumstances?

I've been told by a friend that a family member of theirs (should be isolating because someone they live with has tested positive) is not isolating, and is even going out to work- and they work with vulnerable people in a medical environment!

Should I report them regardless of the possible consequences on my friend (who will be blamed if they get caught)? Or encourage my friend to do the same, again despite the consequences?

I'm torn!

@WeGoHigh

It baffles me that people could defend this with the circumstances the OP has set out. If your vulnerable family member was being cared for by someone living with someone who’d tested positive would you be so blasé? I know everyone is exhausted at this stage but come on

Agree with this . Report them to their employer. Not all vulnerable people can have the vaccine, so the assumption they will all be vaccinated is wrong. If it’s hearsay then individual concerned should have no problem proving otherwise. It’s not about dobbing people in and comparisons to Nazi Germany, are offensive and disgusting. It’s about protecting vulnerable people.

Ultimately unless the government are prepared to step up and support people who have to isolate, people won't do it. They can't afford to and I don't blame anyone who decides they can't do it anymore.

So what about those that can afford to?

No I would mind my own business

The only reason I would report would be if they had tested positive and were not isolating

@WeGoHigh

It baffles me that people could defend this with the circumstances the OP has set out. If your vulnerable family member was being cared for by someone living with someone who’d tested positive would you be so blasé? I know everyone is exhausted at this stage but come on

Of course those “we’re no better than the Nazis” criers would be the FIRST to scream and shout and sue if their loved one died or was extremely ill in this situation. 100% shit for brains when the replies are Carry on curtain twitching hun same shit fir brains who were probably smashing pans every week for the NHS but now they’ve “had enough”. Shame it doesn’t target these morons.

Nazi mentions so early in the thread. Godwin's law applies.

@jihhy

Ultimately unless the government are prepared to step up and support people who have to isolate, people won't do it. They can't afford to and I don't blame anyone who decides they can't do it anymore.

So what about those that can afford to?

How do you judge that, though?

There should be isolation pay that employers pay and claim back from the government. IMO it should be full pay each time someone isolates.

People shouldn't be worse off because they're following the law.

@Tay1980

Be very careful with this. My son has tested positive and obviously I am now self isolating. I have been invited to take part in a government study where if you test negative on a lateral flow each day you can then be released from self isolation for 24 hours for essential activities…such as work. I am 2 days into this and have tested negative so am living my life as pretty much normal.

Be very careful? If the person was taking place in this study then what exactly does op need to be careful about as this person will have all the necessary documentation to back up that they’re part of a study?

1984 all over again

How do you judge that, though?

Well I can because I can wfh even though I've been on site throughout the pandemic except for self isolation periods. So in my situation is it ok for me to not self isolate? Are you anti self isolation in general or just for those who don't get paid?

I think going out for a walk with no one around is one thing but going to work with vulnerable people is risking lives and will potentially cause lots more people to isolate. I don't know if I'd report but I'd definitely be giving them a piece of my mind!

People shouldn't be worse off because they're following the law.

I doubt anyone would disagree with that.

I would never report anyone for not isolating

Isolation rules are bonkers

The whole situation is unwarranted, all the vulnerable and elderly are vaccinated, deaths are down, nhs no longer overwhelmed

So no I would report nobody

Of course those “we’re no better than the Nazis” criers would be the FIRST to scream and shout and sue if their loved one died or was extremely ill in this situation. 100% shit for brains when the replies are Carry on curtain twitching hun same shit fir brains who were probably smashing pans every week for the NHS but now they’ve “had enough”.
Shame it doesn’t target these morons.

While we're in tbe subject of 'shut for brains', how intelligent would you be to report someone on hearsay? Few poters seem to be able to grasp that part. Do you think he said/she said gossip is credible enough to 'report' someone on?

The Nazis didn’t just storm in and start revealing their true colours overnight. OP is clearly not being offensive to Jewish people. It’s about the insidious dripping gap that they started in the late 20s… how it slowly became acceptable to report neighbour’s etc.

I’d want to, but not sure if I actually would. I’d feel guilty if I decided not to.

I wouldn’t because you don’t know there full situation and I was brought up to feel like ‘grassing’ is morally wrong.
However people comparing the UK to Nazi Germany are being extremely offensive to the millions who died and the millions who were traumatised for life. There is no comparison.

I wouldn't report someone on hearsay & if I knew the full facts I'm still not sure however if they were coming to work in my fils care home I would want to do something. However I know reporting them won't mean they are carted off to a concentration camp.

@WeRTheOnesWeHaveBeenWaitingFor

I wouldn’t because you don’t know there full situation and I was brought up to feel like ‘grassing’ is morally wrong. However people comparing the UK to Nazi Germany are being extremely offensive to the millions who died and the millions who were traumatised for life. There is no comparison.

It's not the regime or even the consequences people are comparing though, it's that nasty little itch to be the 'good citizen' and report neighbours.

@ChubbyLittleManInACampervan

I would never report anyone for not isolating

Isolation rules are bonkers

The whole situation is unwarranted, all the vulnerable and elderly are vaccinated, deaths are down, nhs no longer overwhelmed

So no I would report nobody

Except they aren't are they. This is just what people who have no idea beyond their own 'not at risk' bubble spout. I have a 4 year old who is CEV shielded for over a year and is now back in shielding due to this country opting to just give up on covid. We don't get compensation for the fact we have to shield as a family which has meant giving up jobs, having to homeschool full time etc. There are many more people in this same scenario because they can't have the vaccine or the 53,000 CEV children who can't be vaccinated.

@FelicityBeedle

I wouldn’t report for an app ping, or a bubble bursting. But somebody living with a positive case and still going to work (especially in a medical environment) I absolutely would. To their employer at the very least

In these circumstances I'd consider it too, but only if I had been told directly by the person what they were doing, not if I'd just heard it from someone else .

I'd also tell the person themselves first that if they didn't isolate I'd report them .

Perhaps I'm a curtain twitcher though as I also phoned the police a few days ago as I saw a man trying the backdoor of my neighbours house at 2am. My neighbour was away at the time & wasn't having anyone to stay.
However I had no idea about the circumstances, the man could have been lost or hungry or looking for interior design tips (neighbour has great taste).