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Assaulted at school

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Theoneandonly321 · 16/07/2021 14:19

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My dd has been severely assaulted at school by another child. The child has been excluded. What action can I take as this is the third time the child has hurt my child and there wasn’t any consequences beforehand.
Am I able to call the police as the child is 10 and google says they are now above the legal age for criminal responsibility. Any advice appreciated I am so angry and upset.

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DobbleAgainAndAgain · 16/07/2021 16:32

@korawick12345

FFS read the thread people - there is no indication the school has done nothing. The other child has been excluded and the prior incidents were not nearly as serious the op herself describes them as pushes etc.

OP what is the outcome you are looking for?

OP what is the outcome you are looking for? My guess: for her dd to be safe and go about her school day without being assaulted and harassed?

OP, how old are the children here?

baldafrique · 16/07/2021 16:35

Police. 100%.
I would also consider taking legal action against the school for failing to keep my child safe following the two prior assaults.

baldafrique · 16/07/2021 16:37

(Depends on the severity of the prior assaults of course)

baldafrique · 16/07/2021 16:39

Why are the parents saying this isnt their childs fault?!

lastcall · 16/07/2021 16:39

Definitely follow up with the police and tell them the child has threatened to carry on hurting your daughter.

beigebrownblue · 16/07/2021 16:40

From here on in. Don not do anything. And I mean ANYTHING without getting it in writing.

You send a letter send it by recorded and special delivery and keep receipt. Set up a file.

You do not have to send your child to school. Keep them off.

Get incidnent numbers from the police.

Do NOT muck about with phone calls.

Also get yourself a solicitor.

dreamingofyou · 16/07/2021 16:41

Has the other child got sen? not excusing it btw just could explain why the school aren't doing much

Karaokehell2021 · 16/07/2021 16:47

Possibly looks like school/parents aren't doing much but they almost certainly are. Sounds potentially there's SEN from your latest post. It isnt as simple as consequences

Longdistance · 16/07/2021 16:51

She’s got lousy parents. That child knows exactly what she’s doing. You did well to contact the police. The school is shit. Contacting ofsted and governors is also a good move.

FredBlankenship · 16/07/2021 16:52

What caused it, any idea? Is your dd totally without fault in all of this, are you absolutely certain?

If you really believe that to be so - why not cut the crap, the Police have more than enough to deal with than stuff like this. I'm sure with a bit of sleuthing you could find the address of the culprit and consequently their family. Then go around (ideally during the school day) and tell the parent concerned that if your dd is touched one more time, you will seek retribution, adult-to-adult.

If anything else, that might get the police involved, but otherwise don't expect much, as for the school, they will just be trying to keep it covered up to avoid any negative press.

CorianderBee · 16/07/2021 16:53

@DrinkFeckArseBrick

Suspension is temporary. Exclusion is permanent but I guess there may be an appeals process
That's not true. Exclusion is often used for shorter periods
fabulousathome · 16/07/2021 16:53

Take photos of DD for evidence.

Karaokehell2021 · 16/07/2021 16:55

@Longdistance maybe she doesn't have lousey parents and maybe she doesn't know exactly what she is doing.

Anotheruser02 · 16/07/2021 16:56

My child would not be going back without a personal body cam. You can get small ones for around £30 on Amazon.

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/07/2021 16:56

@Theoneandonly321

The school have allowed the child back as it was temporary for today only. No further action is happening on their part. I have reported it to the police and I will be contacting the school and ofsted alongside pulling my dd from the school. They cannot guarantee her safety as I have recently written to them about this child bullying her, they claimed they will safeguard my child but the other child was allowed lone access to my dd for this to happen. My dd has been blamed for allowing herself to be alone with the child. The parents have said the child will not be punished as it isn’t their fault. The child attacked her unprovoked for no reason, she is a very violent child and the school nor her parents ever punish her. I think if the police speak to the family it will reassure me that someone is on our side and that the child may get help with their violence before they seriously hurt another child. I am not interested in arrests/court etc just for it to be recorded as they live near us and we see them regularly. The child is old enough to take responsibility, especially as they told my dd ‘watch your back I’m going to do it again’
Crikey. One day. Definitely a good thing you contacted the police. You need photos now. Can keep your dd home until the school can safeguard her effectively? Or do you have to go to work?
FredBlankenship · 16/07/2021 16:57

@Anotheruser02

My child would not be going back without a personal body cam. You can get small ones for around £30 on Amazon.
Teachers wont allow that!
toocold54 · 16/07/2021 17:00

Suspension is temporary. Exclusion is permanent but I guess there may be an appeals process

I believe most schools say exclusion whether it is temporary or permanent now which is really confusing.

As the first two were pushes then I don’t think the police will do much unless your DC was seriously injured this. I think this is more of a school issue.
I am glad the school dealt with it but something needs to happen to stop it happening in the future as it seems to be escalating.
I’m assuming this is primary school? Which is an issue in itself as breaks are usually staffed by lunchtime staff and not teachers like in secondary school.

FreekStar2 · 16/07/2021 17:03

Schools don't use the term "suspension' anymore. It's just exclusion which can be temporary or permanent.

What do you hope to achieve by going to the police? What would you want them to do?

Without knowing the extent of the 'assault' and the circumstances of the children it's hard to judge whether the police would be an appropriate step.

Kids get into fights on occasions at school, and it is usually dealt with in school in co-operation with parents.

onlyreadingneverposting8 · 16/07/2021 17:04

When this happened to our son the only way to get anything down was to report it to the police. It led to the permanent exclusion of the perpetrator. His sidekick got a week's exclusion.

onlyreadingneverposting8 · 16/07/2021 17:05

Done not down!

DomPom47 · 16/07/2021 17:06

Definitely report to police. Schools take it more seriously in terms of their behaviour policies if you do go to the police. The police will speak to school and then go speak to child either at school or at home either way it will show their parents and the child that this is not acceptable.

baldafrique · 16/07/2021 17:08

Serious assault suggests hospital was needed OP, is that the case?

LittleTiger007 · 16/07/2021 17:11

I would report it to the police. I used to work in a school and schools only have a limited authority and can’t do much. We regularly had the police involved with kids and parents in one school I worked in. As someone has said above once a child is 10 they are legally responsible. At any age whilst the child lives at home the parents also hold responsibility. They need to know that this is a pattern of serious assault and aggressive behaviour.

Sylvan92 · 16/07/2021 17:11

How on earth was she so badly hurt? Where were the adults when this happened?

Mamamia7962 · 16/07/2021 17:12

OP - how do you know the other child's parents won't punish them, have you actually spoken to them?