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AIBU?

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To not invite step child to Disneyworld next year?

999 replies

Ohanaa · 12/07/2021 09:00

We have 1 DSC (13) and 2 DC together. (7&10)

We go away most years on some sort of holiday... Weekend U.K. break, abroad, U.K. theme parks etc. We Always invite DSC but they have never wanted to be away from their mum or their mum has said no.

We are looking to book 3 weeks in Florida & universal for next year.

Aibu not to invite DSC this time? I can see her mum saying yes and then saying no at the last moment (she had done this once before).

I don’t want to waste money to be honest.

Dsc is already going to Orlando next year for 5 days with her mum & nan.

OP posts:
TheSaucepanMan · 13/07/2021 20:55

I'd invite her and make it clear that once it's booked she has to go and give her some time to think and perhaps give her another option of a shorter trip/few nice days out of her choosing with her dad if she'd prefer that. The last thing you want is for her to feel excluded. It's a lot of money to lose but i'd tread very carefully.

FakeColinCaterpillar · 13/07/2021 20:57

All the posters who think OP should invite her should offer to pay and OP will pay them back when SD lands in Florida.

What a load of nonsense. Step mothers, can’t do right.

MouldyPotato · 13/07/2021 21:01

@FakeColinCaterpillar

All the posters who think OP should invite her should offer to pay and OP will pay them back when SD lands in Florida.

What a load of nonsense. Step mothers, can’t do right.

Ha! I did have similar thoughts!
LizzieAnt · 13/07/2021 21:14

I think the OP sounds as if she'd prefer her step-daughter didn't come on the holiday for more than just financial reasons tbh. I'm sorry if I've misinterpreted your intentions OP. I'm not a 'first wife' btw so no projection happening here, but the OP listed one reason after another why it would be problematic for her SD to accompany the rest of the family.
Things can be difficult re children and holidays even when no step-families are involved, but it doesn't justify leaving a child at home imo.

Guavafish · 13/07/2021 21:19

I think you’ve found a good solution. It is now on the step child mother to be responsible.

Still I don’t think you need to invite her … it’s your money and your family holiday. If the mother was reasonable then I believe you should invite. But sounds like she is difficult and a spiteful person - so don’t!

tallduckandhandsome · 13/07/2021 21:21

@LizzieAnt

I think the OP sounds as if she'd prefer her step-daughter didn't come on the holiday for more than just financial reasons tbh. I'm sorry if I've misinterpreted your intentions OP. I'm not a 'first wife' btw so no projection happening here, but the OP listed one reason after another why it would be problematic for her SD to accompany the rest of the family. Things can be difficult re children and holidays even when no step-families are involved, but it doesn't justify leaving a child at home imo.
Care to quote these ‘one reason after another’?
LizzieAnt · 13/07/2021 21:31

@tallduckandhandsome

Financial reasons/all her mother's fault

She doesn't like rides

She may miss her mother

She'll go but then decide she doesn't want to be there/was forced to be there and so will be upset and go around with a long face.

TwinsAndTrifle · 13/07/2021 21:33

How hysterical are some of these comments.

I’m an RP. If I fucked about with my ex’s holidays with the kids then I have to accept that in the future he may well not take them. That would be on me.

Same with this mum. Dsd can hate the OP all she wants but she needs to look closer to home.

Spot on.

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 13/07/2021 21:33

[quote LizzieAnt]@tallduckandhandsome

Financial reasons/all her mother's fault

She doesn't like rides

She may miss her mother

She'll go but then decide she doesn't want to be there/was forced to be there and so will be upset and go around with a long face.[/quote]
I mean they're all valid concerns.

LizzieAnt · 13/07/2021 21:42

Yes they are, but where there's a will there's a way as the saying goes. Just sounds as if the 'will' is a little lacking here. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am.

DeRigueurMortis · 13/07/2021 21:48

@funinthesun19

that’s fine, but be prepared for DSC to hate you in the long run, and good luck to her dad dealing with that too. What a shame

How hysterical are some of these comments.

I’m an RP. If I fucked about with my ex’s holidays with the kids then I have to accept that in the future he may well not take them. That would be on me.

Same with this mum. Dsd can hate the OP all she wants but she needs to look closer to home.

👏👏👏

Chartreuseglass · 13/07/2021 21:48

Surely the will in this case needs to come from the girl and her mother @LizzieAnt. OP’s not a miracle worker

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 13/07/2021 21:49

@LizzieAnt

Yes they are, but where there's a will there's a way as the saying goes. Just sounds as if the 'will' is a little lacking here. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am.
Where's the will from her mother?
thing47 · 13/07/2021 21:52

Well done, OP, I think you've hit upon the best way forward.

There is quite literally no jeopardy to DSD's mum (it won't cost her a penny if DSD goes) unless she was always planning to play silly buggers. And if she was always planning to play silly buggers, then you were right all along to be cautious.

user47000000000 · 13/07/2021 21:55

Don’t invite her.

Do another holiday with her (even if a cheap UK one) and explain that you knew she wouldn’t want to be away from her mum for that long so didn’t want to put her in a difficult position.

thing47 · 13/07/2021 21:55

I think it's a bit out of order to say there's no will on the part of the OP when she is quite literally the one paying every penny of the trip, for everyone who goes on it.

Themeparklover · 13/07/2021 21:56

I agree with you in the sense you don't want to pay a significant amount for her to come and then she doesn't so why not sit down with the mum and figure out when she intends to go and see if she can meet up and leave the step child with you for the remainder of the holiday or the other way round etc

user47000000000 · 13/07/2021 21:59

themepark that would work with normal human beings but a lot of the time first wives don’t behave normally.

Pls don’t ruin your holiday OP

OllyBJolly · 13/07/2021 22:04

a lot of the time first wives don’t behave normally

Oh do fuck right off.

I am so grateful that my DCs stepmother treated them like her own. If anything she was overly generous and kind. (Even gave me her cast off clothes!) She was so supportive in the difficult teen years - a true ally.

LizzieAnt · 13/07/2021 22:11

@Chartreuseglass

Surely the will in this case needs to come from the girl and her mother *@LizzieAnt*. OP’s not a miracle worker
No, the mother, as the OP has portrayed her, will not play ball. It sounds like co-parenting isn't working in this situation. At this point, the father should (hopefully) be aiming to do his very best for his daughter either with or - importantly - without her mother's help.

The child is his daughter and, ideally, he needs to give her the same opportunities as his other children to the best of his ability. (I think he should pay for her holiday btw, not OP).

If she wants to go, then leaving her out of what sounds like the family holiday of a lifetime is cruel.

DeRigueurMortis · 13/07/2021 22:15

@Themeparklover

I agree with you in the sense you don't want to pay a significant amount for her to come and then she doesn't so why not sit down with the mum and figure out when she intends to go and see if she can meet up and leave the step child with you for the remainder of the holiday or the other way round etc

Because that only works when both parents are reasonable.

I linked earlier to the Evil SM greetings thread. I think a fair few people on here should read it.

I'll re-post what I put on there.


Your defence of "you knew what you were getting into?" is naive in the extreme.

It take no consideration of how people, relationships and overall family dynamics can change over time.

Your point is akin to berating a woman who'd married a man after dating for 5 years only to find after a year of marriage he's having an affair. Would you say "you knew what you were getting in to when you married him?" or would you offer kindness and sympathy?

I've been "lucky" as a SM in that DH and his Ex have largely worked together to co-parent and he and I are in sync about "how things work" in our home. We have house rules/age appropriate chores and clear consequences for poor behaviour that either of us enforce regardless of the child involved.

Though it isn't really luck is it? Assuming people will behave decently is surely not an unreasonable expectation?

My friend is not so "lucky".

She dated her now DH for 3 years. Took things slow. Did all the "right" things.

In that time her (now) DH and his Ex had a cordial relationship and were effective co-parents (after she left him for OM who she moved in with). All was working well for all involved.

Then they got married, she got pregnant and all hell let loose.

Ex (jealous that the husband she'd kicked into touch was getting on with his life whilst her OM had turned out to be a good looking but feckless fucker who had no intention of marrying her never mind having another child) turned from a reasonable co-parent to the Ex from hell.

Contact constantly disrupted and weaponised.

Friend being slagged off to the child and told she couldn't tell him what to do who then played up as a result.

Constant phone calls/texts to friends DH about what she was doing wrong, could do/couldn't do (often contradictory).

The list goes on...and it's put a huge pressure on her relationship. Her DH is understandably shit scared about not seeing his child but as a result allows himself to be manipulated an bullied by his Ex to his wife's and their child's detriment. Frankly I don't know how much longer it will last.

Did she know what she was getting into?

For my part as lucky as I have been there have still been testing times as my step child has grown up and we've all had to re-orientate ourselves to changing needs, or simply plan around the impact of Ex moving 20 miles away (the burden of which fell on me and DH in terms of travel as usually reasonable Ex decided she wasn't going to do her share of hour long round trips despite being the instigator of them).

This attitude of yours (and others) is pretty much exclusive to SM's. I rarely see it dished out to SF's nor in any other circumstance such as my 3rd paragraph example.

I don't ever see as much much ill disguised malice, glee and superiority on any other part of MN than this topic attracts, nor less empathy, support and understanding.

hownowbrowncowz · 13/07/2021 22:18

Oh fucking hell, I've been the stepdaughter that didn't get invited to Disneyland and it's the most shit feeling in the world.

I judge her shitty father for not fighting her corner and pushing for more of a place for her, and obviously because it's YOUR money, he can't have final say.

I'm really sad for this girl, it's brought back some very sad memories for me. I was 14 and it was Disneyland Paris, my four half sisters went and I didn't get asked.

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 13/07/2021 22:29

@hownowbrowncowz

Oh fucking hell, I've been the stepdaughter that didn't get invited to Disneyland and it's the most shit feeling in the world.

I judge her shitty father for not fighting her corner and pushing for more of a place for her, and obviously because it's YOUR money, he can't have final say.

I'm really sad for this girl, it's brought back some very sad memories for me. I was 14 and it was Disneyland Paris, my four half sisters went and I didn't get asked.

No comment about her mother's behaviour then?
DeRigueurMortis · 13/07/2021 22:32

@hownowbrowncowz

Oh fucking hell, I've been the stepdaughter that didn't get invited to Disneyland and it's the most shit feeling in the world.

I judge her shitty father for not fighting her corner and pushing for more of a place for her, and obviously because it's YOUR money, he can't have final say.

I'm really sad for this girl, it's brought back some very sad memories for me. I was 14 and it was Disneyland Paris, my four half sisters went and I didn't get asked.

And I'm very sorry for you.

But to ask a question. Did you get to go twice to Disney with your mum?

Being excluded from the only chance you had to go would have been very hurtful.

However were the circumstances the same?

Had you turned down years of opportunities to go on holiday with your father?

Had your mother been difficult about facilitating contact? Had she a history of wasting your father/SM's money?

A big problem with many of these threads is the nuances of the circumstances.

LizzieAnt · 13/07/2021 22:40

No comment about her mother's behaviour then?

Ideally, how a person's father treats them should not be dependent on their mother's behaviour.