A library thought it appropriate to book this 'entertainment' for children and I feel sick

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I thought it was a joke, a photoshop job, a hoax even but it's not.

WTF

A children's entertainer in a library with this costume?

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1414247886242598912?s=19

What the hell is this?

Appears to have deleted those tweets. The tweeter is a US man called Nick Cho. No idea who he is or anything about him but his handle is @YourKoreanDad on TikTok. Don't know if that's literal or not.

No! Correction. He posted that before Rainbow Monkey Dildo Man incident. Tweets are still there. Bleeding hell.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

No! Correction. He posted that before Rainbow Monkey Dildo Man incident. Tweets are still there. Bleeding hell.

I wonder if it was in relation to the WiSpa incident then. Cause if anything that's worse....

Yes, it was. Why are they so naive in the US?

He's suggesting putting the responsibility on children to work out whether a situation is "appropriate" nakedness or not.

The age groups the wi-spa and Redbridge incidents have affected have been children who were young enough to believe in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy.

How are they supposed to do that?

I suspect many many men have utterly no clue how different the response to the sight/proximity of a strange man's naked penis is between a man or older boy who has no reason to find it threatening and a woman or older girl who knows what it could do and knows that she is smaller/slighter/less strong. They don't know and they don't care.

Besides the men who don’t know, there are plenty of men who do care. They know exactly what they’re doing, and they know exactly how they’re making women/children/girls feel.

I am toying with the name change to RainbowDildoButtMonkey. Wouldn’t be too far from the one I have already.

In fairness my 5 year old would find it hilarious. “Penis!!!! Hahahaha!!! Bare bum!!!!!”

But yes, totally not appropriate

It isn’t appropriate at all

'Oh yes because the Daily Mail is famous for bringing light into our lives hmm

This cultural travesty needs strong and sustainable action, but let's not pretend the DM particularly gives a shit about the safety of children.'

Just a quick one here. Whether they do give a shit about children or not. They have a massive circulation compared to the other papers I think. I think that a fair amount of them might well do.

The tricky bit is if the readers take away this totally inappropriate costume is linked to gay rights etc...

But then I mean. It's a rainbow costume and they do pride. So the performers have made the link.

It was a long fight to break the link between homosexuality and perversion... And people like this and the pups at pride and etc are forcing that link back. It's not just a one off, the addition of kink to the rainbow etc is actively damaging the progress made around societies ideas about homosexual people esp gay men.

And loads of these kink types are not gay. They're 'queer'.

I know that I've seen gay men and lesbians getting more vocal about the damage being done to the hard won gains of the last decades.

Oh I rambled off my original point!

I have no doubt that plenty of mail readers care about children.

I mean we can say which children and whatnot but fact is IME many are older and will be horrified at this in a library tbh

@NiceGerbil what’s the difference between gay and queer?

I'm sure some people who are so keen to try and minimise/ handwave this away because of fear of backlash against gay rights in general.

It's cowardly though imo to point at women and tell them to STFU it can carry on everyone must ignore it

Rather than speaking out about the actual problem which is the hijacking of a really important movement with this sort of crap.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Joss's boundaries are a bit... different from many people's.

Joss once had a conversation on twitter about what sounds women in the next cubicle made when they urinated

^I know 3 cis women who 'hover' and refuse to let 'bum meet seat' in public toilets....
Ive been in the next cubicle and one of them absolutely sounded like someone standing to pee.^

So I wouldn't take guidance on boundaries from Joss!

Hovering or not I have never heard a woman manage the giant horse wee effect that men can!

The equipment is different...

Depends who you ask.

It used to be an insulting term mainly for gay men. Many do not like the 'reclamation' of the word.

Now it means... Anyone who says they are queer I think.

Stonewall has

'Queer is a term used by those wanting to reject specific labels of romantic orientation, sexual orientation and/or gender identity. It can also be a way of rejecting the perceived norms of the LGBT community (racism, sizeism, ableism etc). Although some LGBT people view the word as a slur, it was reclaimed in the late 80s by the queer community who have embraced it.'

In general it can mean eg a straight man who has slightly long hair and sometimes wears nail varnish at the weekend.

That sort of idea.

I vaguely remember it meaning “strange / odd” when I was a child. My mum would say it, but she’d be referring to something being queer. Ie “that’s queer, I thought I left my bag in the kitchen but it’s not there’”

He's suggesting putting the responsibility on children to work out whether a situation is "appropriate" nakedness or not.

This is just terrible. Even if a child realises that the nakedness is ‘inappropriate’, that doesn’t mean they’ll speak up about it. And it shouldn’t be their responsibility to do so, that’s always the responsibility of adults and rightly so.

My granny used to complain that the word 'gay' had been 'ruined' for her...

Queer meant peculiar or odd.
A person going up the road on a unicycle with a stuffed penguin on their head- how queer!

So the peculiar weird connotation was used as an insult- he's a bit queer- progressed into queer meaning gay as a slur.

There's also queer theory which is behind a lot of this and that's another whole massive topic which gives massive insight into what's going on with all this

it is not ok to have a large male penis, fake or not, on show to children......But it would be ok if it was small? Or female?

No such thing as a female penis.