School children arriving late on Monday due to Footie

[Muncher75]

This was doing the rounds on my social media today, I am a teacher, so Is it just me or is this a bad idea? Children have hardly been in school this year anyway. More importantly, I feel that it’s teaching our children the wrong life lesson. Surely, if you choose to stay up late then suck it up on Monday! You can’t be swanning in late on a Monday to work after a weekend of partying.... interested to know if it’s just me. For the record, I enjoy watching football!

I think it's daft but DS is fuming because I work Mondays and he has to go into school (breakfast club) for 8am 😂

Wasn't there another thread about this? It's a great idea!! ❤️ ⚽️

We are hosting so why is it 8.00 pm on a Sunday? What's wrong with the traditional 3.00pm Saturday kick-off? Something to do with sponsors maybe.

Fucking hell they've had about 6 months off plus in the last year, its an hour, who gives a shit.

Have some fun for goodness sake.

@NeverSurrender

My ds 6 came home excited because school have said he doesn't have to go in until 10.30 on Monday, but it quickly turned to tears when I said it was breakfast club as normal because we have work as normal! Feel really guilty!

Yes I think the whole idea just causes bad feeling for the many many children who can’t do this.

I find it a bit mind-boggling that a) they didn’t organise the final for a Saturday night and that b) children and adults have presumably been staying up late to watch all the England games so far (as in our house) and have somehow managed to get into work and school on time the next day.

Excellent idea. Whoever dreamed it up is a true public benefactor.

It's not new. I remember a lovely 10am start in the late 90s, thanks to the football.

I think if it were all the time I'd agree but I'm not sure how on one occasion it will have that huge an impact that kids are growing up thinking they can be late for work etc...

As a teacher, I predict you will have most kids in on time (or maybe just a touch late) anyway.

I don’t think an hour or so, so close to the end of term, really makes any difference.

I’m not a football fan, I’m not English. But my god it’s been a largely joyless 18 months so why not, as a one off 🤷🏻‍♀️

Many adults have a little more freedom and flexibility in their work and can sometimes turn up a bit later. School is all about enforcing a rigid factory mentality and they find it so hard to concede even an hour here or there. They’ve had a rotten 18months, it’s nearly the end of term and an hour for the football won’t make a jot of difference. I’m not a football fan btw.

Totally not a football fan but.. life is bloody miserable right now and my DD10 was sooo excited on Wednesday and she doesn't usually pay any attention to sport stuff.

Her school have said she can go in at 10am on Monday and that's brilliant!

We are going to let our hair down, have a few beers and enjoy ourselves. Life is too short to be miserable!

P.S. IT'S COMING HOME 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

I don’t care if schools do this or not. I think most kids should be able to cope with one later night though and still be able to get up for school on time. So what if they’re a bit tired. They can go to bed a bit earlier on Monday night if necessary.

I suppose it’s to try to get certain parents to get their kids into school though, I know some people who have decided that regardless of the result, there’s no school or work on Monday.

Either way, it’s missing a couple of hours of school or a day, it’s not really going to matter.

Seems like making a mountain out of a molehill to me. A bit of flexibility for primary school children is fair enough I guess, but secondary school pupils and adults getting late starts seems a bit OTT. It's not like it will be going on until 3am is it? It starts at 8pm so in all likelihood will be over by 10. Even if there's extra time surely it will be done and dusted by 11.30? I could kind of see the point if it was somewhere with a different time zone and a lot of people were going to be watching in the middle of the night, but it's probably not significantly later than plenty of teens and adults go to bed anyway.

I am not a fan of this idea as posting for realism not for likes. This is ridiculous and unnecessary. There are a number of implications and issues here including:

1. Football is not religion or law and does not dictate life for everyone especially many of the (possibly more female) population who are not interested.

1. Are school pupils all encouraged to watch a sporting fixture even if they have no interest?

1. Is there an assumption that if this special dispensation was not issued - pupils (or staff) will miss school?

1. It may set a precedent that other sporting events staged at inconvenient hours eg Tokyo Olympics etc will also be permitted exceptional entitlement treatment. However the principal of missing school or that school is not as important as watching a big live event can have repercussions even if it is for a few hours or half a day. This is on top of all other pandemic disruptions with lost significant learning.

1. Despite the rarity and therefore realistic low expectations on the English men's football team reaching the final - it assumes England will not reach any future tournament final soon

1. What happens if England lose? Will this be an English national traumas?

1. If England wins will this mean Covid is not coming home?

I am not a seasoned fan but happy and surprised for England having a chance to win a major football tournament. Of course I hope England win but win fairly with no fakery driving etc as wining in a fair way is the way to go.

Even if football is coming Rome - congratulations to the better team and well done England as beyond expectations already but England can win! If England win the nation will be lifted temporarily to distract from the current troubles but at the end of the day this is just a football game played by over rewarded high net worth players although it does generate an uplift in consumer spending especially should England win. People should be prepared for a win or lose and just understand it's just a game.

It would be ideal if the UK support England too.

COME ON ENGLAND!

If school was that important they wouldn't have closed them for over 6 months 🤷‍♀️ .

@GiveMeNovocain

If school was that important they wouldn't have closed them for over 6 months 🤷‍♀️ .

The other side of the issue being - it is fine to have optional occasional schooling as no one cares nor complains about missed education. I believe schooling is important and all efforts should be made to ensure as little disruption as possible. Indeed ideally there should be investment in catch up lost education not acceptance of the current patchy provision. However evidently in England - schools are experimenting with children as to herd immunity. Hence why all globally adopted essential basic risk mitigation measures are removed and deemed unnecessary despite crowded non ventilation schools. Scottish children aged over four are masked and infinitely more proactive preferring lower risk. Children evidently are super spreading as unvaccinated and some especially those with preexisting medical issues may suffer long Covid disabilities and a long term healthcare issue.

It is quite a ridiculous idea. There have been partitions on the net, to make the Monday a bank holiday after the football, it's madness.

It is ridiculous.

It makes me dislike football even more.

Will we have a day of national mourning when England loses? Oh, my mistake, it will be at least three weeks of national mourning.

I think all schools should close on Monday until 10.30

That way everyone's a winner!

Christ it's a one off big event

It's pointless!! DD can go in @ 10:30 but I need to start work @ 9. If I told her she can go in at 10:30 then that's what she would want to do which is another problem I could do without sorting.

Take the off then!

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Terrible idea

Agree with OP, it is a terrible idea.

If we win 19th will probably be made a public holiday anyway.

One day of tiredness won’t kill anyone and learning to deal with fatigue is a part of building resilience.It will also allow those with a late start to keep everyone else up with their noise-not fair on those who have to start early anyway.