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Muncher75 · 2021-07-09T16:51:51+00:00

This was doing the rounds on my social media today, I am a teacher, so Is it just me or is this a bad idea? Children have hardly been in school this year anyway. More importantly, I feel that it’s teaching our children the wrong life lesson. Surely, if you choose to stay up late then suck it up on Monday! You can’t be swanning in late on a Monday to work after a weekend of partying.... interested to know if it’s just me. For the record, I enjoy watching football!

ObviousNameChage · 09/07/2021 21:11

It's a one off.

It's the end of term next week for some schools, and everyone else finishes the week after. Even if it wasn't, it's two hours they MIGHT be missing. Just because it's allowed , it doesn't mean it will be missed. The time is irrelevant compared to what they missed. I bet you have some things happening that aren't strictly educational, like practicing for a school play.

3.No, a full class of mostly tired kids is not better than half a class .

They ARE children. They'll work for more years than they spend in school or are actually children . No one is setting an example or ruining their future or setting their bar for their work life based on one late morning when they were in primary. It's not work and they're not mini adults and this view really bugs the crap out of me.

ObviousNameChage · 09/07/2021 21:12

@HullIsWorseThanHell

Since when do kids lie in after a late night? This is totally so the teachers get a lie in!

You do realise teachers and all other staff will be in at the normal time since the school will open at normal time for the kids that do come in,right?

Realitea · 09/07/2021 21:13

My dd’s teacher didn’t even go in the day after the last game!

Imissmoominmama · 09/07/2021 21:14

It’s a brilliant idea, imo!

funinthesun19 · 09/07/2021 21:14

My children will be going to school at the normal time but only because I had already agreed weeks ago to take my friend’s child to school so she can go to a medical appointment. If it wasn’t for that I’d be letting them have an extra hour in bed if they needed it.

Whinge · 09/07/2021 21:18

@HullIsWorseThanHell

Since when do kids lie in after a late night? This is totally so the teachers get a lie in!

A lie in?

School staff will be in at their usual time, just like any other day.

Romanoff · 09/07/2021 21:22

I am not fussed about footie as I am leaving my house at 3am the next morning for work as I am travelling.

A parent, on our fb page, asked if the school were doing something to celebrate. The main replies were that all but one class will still not be in school on Monday. Since they are all isolating.

The kids have lost a lots of school time. That much I don't think an extra hour and a half is going to be a big deal, as a one off.

I am not English, but live in England and think it would be good to see a bit more pride in English achievements.

You can bet in Ireland and Scotland, they would be planning on being up all Sunday night if it was their team. And I think more people would be excited, rather than moaning about every aspect of the football and things that are changing because of it.

BarbarianMum · 09/07/2021 21:22

My kids have missed 15 and 25 days respectively this year (not including homeschool during lockdowns) and I'm expecting another self isolation any day as school is rife w COVID. Frankly a late start on Monday is the least of our worries at this point.

Rosesareyellow · 09/07/2021 21:22

I don’t understand the whole ‘oh but they’ll be tired’. As if all kids go to bed at 7pm every Sunday. Kids being tired in school is a massive problem day to day, many go to bed playing on iPads or on phones or with the tv on - I think it’s naive to think staying up for the Euros is somehow an out of the ordinary late bedtime for some of them. Plenty of them won’t be any more tired than they usually are on a Monday morning or any other morning.

KatieB55 · 09/07/2021 21:45

I've had an email from the milkman to say the milk will be late on Monday 😂

HullIsWorseThanHell · 09/07/2021 21:46

Oh shut up all of you. No need to be so arsey...

LST · 09/07/2021 21:52

My work have given the whole company off as has DPs and the kids don't need to be in until 10. I think it's a great idea. Its been a shit year and it's a one off. Ffs people should lighten up

arethereanyleftatall · 09/07/2021 21:56

@DietrichandDiMaggio
Maybe the reason they don't care about women's football is because of stuff like this happening in their formative years?
Women's football wasn't particularly a thing even so little as ten years ago, but goodness me, it is now. It's the fastest growing sport in the uk. Our local football team has an equal amount of girls and boys now at u7, u8, and u9 level. And, thus, the standard is now very high, and getting higher. I don't think messages like this are helpful to our young female footballers.

Toddlerteaplease · 09/07/2021 21:59

Ugh. I've had my colleague complaining all day that no one will do her shift on Monday so she can get drunk on Sunday. We all think she needs to grow up! 0700 start on Monday

Miseryl · 09/07/2021 22:03

We both have to be in work at the normal time, so the kids will be as well.

melj1213 · 09/07/2021 22:08

@Rosesareyellow

I don’t understand the whole ‘oh but they’ll be tired’. As if all kids go to bed at 7pm every Sunday. Kids being tired in school is a massive problem day to day, many go to bed playing on iPads or on phones or with the tv on - I think it’s naive to think staying up for the Euros is somehow an out of the ordinary late bedtime for some of them. Plenty of them won’t be any more tired than they usually are on a Monday morning or any other morning.

Maybe for secondary school children but not primary. The game won't finish until 9.45pm at the earliest but potentially as late as 11/11.30pm if it goes to a full round of penalties.

My preteen DD doesn't go to bed at 7, but on school nights she is in bed and asleep by 9pm so even just staying up for the end of the game would be a late night for her. We will be watching it at my uncles house as he has a massive projector set up in the garden so the whole family can go and watch - it's not the same as staying up in bed reading/playing a game, many kids will be out of their house at a party until a late hour.

Potentially DD may end up getting up at her usual school wake up time and be fine to go in as normal, but knowing that I have the option of letting her sleep in an extra 30/60 minutes and it not having a negative consequence means I don't feel so bad letting her stay up.

BusyLizzie61 · 09/07/2021 22:22

[quote Muncher75]@ForeverSausages
We are performing our play mid week to parents. We can’t practise the play without the full cast.... I only have TA support for some of the day so this also has to be considered when planning. Lots of thought goes into our weekly lesson planning in advance, so to have this thrown into the mix is a real curve ball. As usual we will adapt with a smile! 😀[/quote]
However, you've known about this since Wednesday night.

Having taught, I know how flexibility is par for the course. You will manage.

And let's ve fair, no matter how you dress it up, the children need support to make academic progress and your midweek play is going to have bugger all impact! Yes you can argue the usual social skills, performing etc but ultimately for what "counts" this matters not one iota.

I'm not a fan of football, yes it poses ethical questions if lateness or absence is acceptable for this yet not many other activities, but it's a historical moment in the making and a week away from the end of term in English schools, do hardly the time for real nitty gritty academia.

Original poster

Muncher75 · 09/07/2021 22:33

@BusyLizzie61
I know full well we will manage no problem there 😃 that wasn’t ever my question. It definitely is not about academia either!
Just interested to see everyone’s opinions along with sharing some of my own thoughts .
It shouldn’t surprise me, but it always does, on how cross and personal some Mumsnetters get! - not aimed at you busylizzie61
Discussion and listening to differing opinions with respect , is a skill some on here struggle with😞

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LadyDanburysCane · 09/07/2021 22:40

Our school have sent out the same email today…. of course, as staff, I am expected to be in school at 8 am on Monday regardless…..

I think it’s wrong but I’m not SLT….

Lilibet2022 · 09/07/2021 22:43

YNBU. But then I appear to be the only miserable curmudgeon who's very grateful for Netflix so I don't have to watch them.

I'm off the same opinion as you. Yes it's a one off but it's still OTT imo.

Rainbowsew · 09/07/2021 22:45

Our school is doing this, don't have a problem with it as a lot of kids will be up late regardless unfortunately mine will have to go to before school club as me and DH will have to work anyway 🙁

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/07/2021 22:51

NRtWT but I did note the live ITV Commentator for the Match encouraging all children to stay up late and bunk off school the next day and all employees to do the same too.

Which I thought was very, very funny....given everything...and I'm not a Fan (just an aged Punk).

ShakespearesSisters · 09/07/2021 22:54

Our school has said the kids can go in for 10.30. My work however has not so they will be in for normal time. They will be watching, but probably fall asleep before the end of normal time and need carrying upstairs if the semi final us anything to go by. Age 7 and 9 are quiet something to carry up.

cloudnewt88 · 09/07/2021 23:04

Come on Italia’

FortniteBoysMum · 09/07/2021 23:05

It's once in 55 years. Considering the last 18 months, what's an hour and a half out of the final week in school going to do? Not a fat lot given months of lockdown.