To think its immoral to charge children rent?

[CatsArePeople]

Unless you're saving/investing it for them.

Bring on the biscuits

Would not charge rent for of the following:
Under 18
Full time education
Support through difficult time

Would charge rent if:
Full time employment

I would not want to encourgae my adult children to live at home unless it was necessary for them to do so. I think living away from home, particularly when you're younger and usually have fewer ties is an exciting and precious time where people find out who they are. I really would feel they were missing out by living in their childhood bedroom having to be considerate of their parents all the time.

Sorry but my five year old needs to learn there's no such thing as a free lunch.

He pays rent and does chores!

Why should they live rent free? Where is the incentive for them to move out and start living like actual adults?

So... you would rather have your young adult kids pay someone else's mortgage than save?

At leat 18, not in education and earning a living. Yes they should contribute.
Child. No of course not.

@RickiTarr

Immoral is a weird and strong word for it, even if that’s your opinion.

Not everyone is well off, people who need a contribution to bills from working adult DC, aren’t doing anything wrong by taking it.

This.

I know plenty of single parents who had to start paying extra council tax when the kids turned 18.

If you can afford to take the financial hit, crack on. Meanwhile, people who have to earn a living will do what suits them.

I think it’s immoral to raise entitled adults who have no idea how the world really works and are happy for other adults to subsidise them.

^ Took the words right out of my mouth

@Judith0000

It's immoral to expect a parent to fund an adult childs lifestyle to the detriment of the parent. I have known parents who support their children by allowing them to live at home at no cost, but who cannot afford to provide for these adult children. They cannot afford to live and pay basic bills without relying on credit cards and loans, while their adult children spend every penny of their earnings on socialising, new clothes, hobbies and cars. That's immoral!

That's a really good point.

At what point does it become immoral to live in your parents home, without contributing anything, financially? Especially, when it's clear they are struggling themselves.

Of course to charge children it's not right. They're children after all.

I can't exactly make my 2 year old wash some dishes for his keep .

@CatsArePeople

Why should they live rent free? Where is the incentive for them to move out and start living like actual adults?

So... you would rather have your young adult kids pay someone else's mortgage than save?

Living at home rent free with mummy and daddy is no guarantee of saving money. This is putting conditions on it now OP. Don't be changing the rules.

If you’re a working adult, surely it is more immoral to expect your parent or parents to keep you. Even on minimum wage, a full time working adult should be able to pay a nominal amount towards their keep and put some money aside for savings.

So... you would rather have your young adult kids pay someone else's mortgage than save?

And what are you classing as 'young adult'?

I know someone who doesn't charge her ds's rent as they are 'saving' for a house. They are now 28 and 33 and STILL living at home because they spent it all on holidays and beer and cars and literally have next to nothing saved up.

I agree op. Lots of posts on mn from people charging kids working part time while at college rent. That’s awful- kids should never pay rent until out of education imo (and indeed you are obliged to support them legally to 25). If you genuinely can’t afford to live, that’s one thing but I would have to be extremely poor indeed before I would start taking money from dds.

@CatsArePeople

Why should they live rent free? Where is the incentive for them to move out and start living like actual adults?

So... you would rather have your young adult kids pay someone else's mortgage than save?

If they're working full time, i'm sure paying £100 or so a month for their keep isn't going to harm their ability to save.

I presume you’re quite financially comfortable @CatsArePeople?
How about a low income Family who lose any associated benefits when their child becomes and adult? Most of these families are the ‘working poor’ or unpaid carers.

How are they going to manage feeding, housing said child with a reduced income when they’re already struggling?

I can understand wealthy families charging a substantial percentage of their child’s income as rent raising an eyebrow but most people can’t afford it.

Sorry, didn't mean to quote that.

Was meant to be a general statement.

Also I think- how would we view an absent parent who was not supporting their child while in education. That’s the same way we should view a resident parent imo.

@CayrolBaaaskin

I agree op. Lots of posts on mn from people charging kids working part time while at college rent. That’s awful- kids should never pay rent until out of education imo (and indeed you are obliged to support them legally to 25). If you genuinely can’t afford to live, that’s one thing but I would have to be extremely poor indeed before I would start taking money from dds.

Who is rounding up the parents of kids at uni, with no help from parents?

If its illegal, how many people have been charged or gone to court over this?

@CayrolBaaaskin

I agree op. Lots of posts on mn from people charging kids working part time while at college rent. That’s awful- kids should never pay rent until out of education imo (and indeed you are obliged to support them legally to 25). If you genuinely can’t afford to live, that’s one thing but I would have to be extremely poor indeed before I would start taking money from dds.

Legally until 25... well that's wrong.

Of course they should pay rent if they are earning ! My son pays a nominal amount as he is a student but he also has a job. Why should me and my Dh pay 100% of everything , my son has a lot more of an expensive social likes than we do that's for sure .

I would like to charge my adult child rent once working- i would put it aside to give back to them (I wouldn’t tell them this), so they get used to paying bills and taking responsibility

I do understand that there are times when a family’s finances mean they need every penny, but I do think that if you don’t need the money it is mean, to be honest. Not a popular view on here I know.

@endofjune

I do understand that there are times when a family’s finances mean they need every penny, but I do think that if you don’t need the money it is mean, to be honest. Not a popular view on here I know.

Mean to teach them not to be freeloaders and basic life skills like how to take responsibility for themselves as, you know, adults?

I'd say its meaner to not charge them. No wonder there is so many entitled men children out there (and yes girls too, but in my experience its way more men not paying rent and doing nothing in the house or for themselves than women who are still at home).

Why do you care what arrangements other people have

If you can afford to pay for adults with full time jobs carry on, no one's gives a damn. If someone else can't afford to keep another adult then similarly they can crack on with taking board

Personally I think it's immoral for someone who gets a full wage to expect a parent to subsidise them

We're all different you know.

My adult children pay rent, its saved to go with the money iv put by to help them on the housing ladder when they are ready.
Luckily I'm financially stable enough to be able to do this but you can bet ur ass if I was skint the rent pay would be used by me.

It isn't immoral, it is a traditional working class practice.
They aren't actually the same thing.