To think its immoral to charge children rent?

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Unless you're saving/investing it for them.

Bring on the biscuits

@Sloaneslone - it’s a civil obligation so you don’t get “charged” if you fail to financially support your children. I have seen children enforce this obligation against their parents in my old job though. And rightly so. But it’s hard for kids to actually sue to enforce unless they are estranged (and even then). It’s pretty awful to neglect your children though or use them for cash as soon as they are 16. As I say, you have till 25 to support them if they are in education.

I would add that while it may not be avoidable for some, children shouldn’t feel obliged to support their parents either imo. Putting the responsibility on a teenager to support the household is wrong imo. Let them be a child.

@CayrolBaaaskin

I would add that while it may not be avoidable for some, children shouldn’t feel obliged to support their parents either imo. Putting the responsibility on a teenager to support the household is wrong imo. Let them be a child.

I don't consider a 21year old living at home and earning a full time wage to be a child. Stop infantilising young people!

I hasten to add, ds has been supported by us in full, until he started work last month at 25.

[quote CayrolBaaaskin]@Sloaneslone - it’s a civil obligation so you don’t get “charged” if you fail to financially support your children. I have seen children enforce this obligation against their parents in my old job though. And rightly so. But it’s hard for kids to actually sue to enforce unless they are estranged (and even then). It’s pretty awful to neglect your children though or use them for cash as soon as they are 16. As I say, you have till 25 to support them if they are in education.[/quote]
I would love to see some info on cases where adults, are forced to pay for other other adults to attend education.

There has to be record of it being enforced. And it would need to be normal people. Not the adult children of millionaires.

Who exactly is using their kids for cash at 16?

Most of us are talking about working adults, not children. Not people in education.

And from what I understand, it nor just as simple as you say.

Everyone’s focusing on young adult children in their 20’s with the assumption that they’ll fly the nest at some point. What about when they turn 30, 40+? I know a handful of ppl IRL who are still greatly financially supported by their now elderly parents. No SN, the middle-aged adult children haven’t made good decisions over the years so either move home regularly or have never left. Two of them have their own children so the grandparents are housing a entire family.

I think that’s why some people are wary of not charging their adult children anything, my Dad (83) is horrified at what some of his friends put up with!

And it would be totally different if the adult children were caring for their elderly parents, but it’s the opposite in these cases. The grandparents are run ragged looking after everyone.

@Cameleongirl yes my step brother is 36 and still living with my dad and step mother. He pays 400 a month rent when he feels like it.

My children (17, 19 and 20 ) all live at home and all earn more than me, too right they are paying rent!!!

When there are older adult children still living at home, which happens more often now because of difficulties getting on the housing ladder, it is certainly not unreasonable for them to contribute to the household. I wouldn't actually call it 'rent' though, just sharing the expenses.

not really grabby - some parents rely on Tax Credits and CB to support the family - that stops if a young adult is on an apprenticeship or leave full time education or is 18 and not in education anymore (and have to pay extra Council Tax) - asking an adult earning money and living at home to contribute is absolutely fine - it's what adults do!

My eldest 2 work and are at college - when the eldest wanted to pack in her A levels and work FT I told her what rent I would be asking for - she is now on course for A*/A's this year! As long as they are in education I support them 100% and they get to spend their money on crap - but she's now looking at degree apprenticeships were she would be earning more than me - too right she will be expected to contribute - I did!

I wouldn't charge my kids if they didn't have a job or were away at uni but if they were earning and at home yes I will. I paid my mum board as soon as I got job even though it was part time. They're 3 and 8 months so awhile to go yet

Overwhelmingly: People living in the UK are not actually wealthy in real terms.

There has been a "buffer zone" of middle/lower class people who have experienced '"money" (!) due to property price inflation: and artificially created low interest rates 0.01 - 0.9% rates (inflation rates for consumables - including homes - have ZOOMED beyond reason eg Freddos eg homes.

When my eldest left 6th form I lost some of my UC, maintenance and child benefit for her totalling £400 a month. She was working and earning £700 a month and I charged her £150 a month.

I have.never charged for a contribution until my adult children left education. Be that 18 or 21. I have 2 adult sons living at home both work full time. One is moving into house he is in process of buying at 34 other 26 still saving. Both currently pay rent for their enormous rooms in loft extension with shared shower room. They have Virgin TV package in their rooms with cinema, Sky sport and BT sport, Netflix, Disney + and a fridge to keep cool drinks. They have rediculously fast internet for gaming too. In our home their are 4 adults who all work so share cost of council tax, electricity, gas, water rates and TV licence, then contribute towards food and cost of cleaner. This is what they would pay if they lived alone. Eldest has saved a good deposit for his house and youngest well on the way. We could easily afford to not take contribution from them but they would not learn the value of money then or how to budget and save. We have helped put eldest son with pp aging his legal fees and a help towards deposit but only because he showed he was responsible with his money.

Not if they are grown up.

Why shouldn't they contribute if so.
If they are actual children, how are they going to pay? Go up a chimney?

It's clearly not 'immoral', but I feel it's rather coldly transactional. All adults in a household should be paying their share of the bills in accordance with their income.

This was done a couple of weeks.

Over 18 and working then they're adults so depends on what you mean by children

You can think what you like. It must be nice to be in a position where you can afford not to take money from your children. Bit short sighted to assume that everyone else is in the same boat though.
I’m a single parent, I work full time. Every single penny I earn is allocated for bills and groceries. All of my incomings and outgoings are on a spreadsheet in a bid to make sure that nothing is overlooked or unpaid. Sometimes it comes down to pennies. It’s a miserable way to live to be honest.
Why should my adult child (20) be earning £10 an hour but contributing nothing?

Fortunately I’m lucky in that I’ve managed to raise a lovely unselfish DD who not only is willing to contribute a percentage of her income on payday without being asked, but also frequently voluntarily spends money on her brother too so that he can have a treat now and again that I simply can’t accommodate into our budget.

My grandfather was part of a large family with lots of siblings of different ages living at home.

Whenever any of them started earning - around 14 or so - they would hand over their entire wages to my great grandmother.

She'd give them a little bit back for themselves and keep the rest. It was considered completely normal to contribute to the household.
This was a good hundred years ago. I wonder when the shift happened, that your wages were for yourself alone.

I paid for myself since I was sixteen. It was 180.00 pm and that was 24yrs ago. I wouldnt charge my own until they are atleast 19/20 and working full time also would only be to cover food costs say 30.00 per week.

As soon as children have left education they need to contribute.

My parents are low income and the extra costs associated with council tax etc need acknowledging.

Not everyone is in your privileged position.

Any child over 18 is an adult and should be charged, including for food and power. Using you as a taxi service, charge them.

They need to learn that nowt is free in this life. Earn it.

Working age - either working or claiming benefits, not unreasonable. Let’s face it they couldn’t live for nothing outside the parental home, so why start them off with a sense of entitlement.