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Matt Hancock affair (3)

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TheoMeo · 27/06/2021 08:05

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

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DysonSphere · 27/06/2021 10:32

@newnortherner111

I disagree about Michael Gove being worried. Even though there are women about with very low self-esteem, there surely cannot be another woman who would want a relationship with him?
I'd do it. I've played dutiful suffering partner in return for far less. A bit of glory and shine by-proxy would be welcome.

And I do always find attractive and respect a brilliant mind in a man. Even a devious one.

I also care about the nation.

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 10:35

@newnortherner111 that declaration of interest... I really want to know how she was given the job, which No 10 claim was above board. Was the job advertised? Was she interviewed for it? Was he on the interview panel? How convenient then that the job was given to his friend with limited comms background versus all the many other people who I imagine would have also applied.

Regulus · 27/06/2021 10:39

Thanks a lot, if the images I've seen combined with the images you've already talked about wasn't enough, now you've floated the idea of MH on Strictly. That is an imagine I didn't need to imagine.

Blossomtoes · 27/06/2021 10:45

[quote bonfireheart]@newnortherner111 that declaration of interest... I really want to know how she was given the job, which No 10 claim was above board. Was the job advertised? Was she interviewed for it? Was he on the interview panel? How convenient then that the job was given to his friend with limited comms background versus all the many other people who I imagine would have also applied.[/quote]
She didn’t have a “limited” comms background, her cv shows pretty extensive experience. NEDs aren’t recruited for specific strengths, their role is as a critical friend to scrutinise executive decisions.

We have no idea whether the role was advertised, although I suspect it probably was, and there wouldn’t have been many other applicants. NED roles usually go to retirees because of their very part time nature and relatively low salaries. She was as qualified as most NEDs are, definitely more so than most I’ve worked with.

ilovesooty · 27/06/2021 10:46

I don't believe that Gove has any character to assassinate.

PicsInRed · 27/06/2021 10:50

their role is as a critical friend to scrutinise executive decisions

This is quite the corporate euphemism. His sinews are straining and she scrutinises his executive decisions. 😂

thegcatsmother · 27/06/2021 10:50

The Sarah Vine article applies to all high flying and powerful men who begin to believe their own hype though, be they politicians, military, captains of industry etc. She is bang on target with what she wrote, and I certainly chuckled reading it.

I used to back out of the room bowing when dh got above himself. It used to sort the problem.

StormzyinaTCup · 27/06/2021 10:53

Interestingly I read the article late last night so I can't recall word for word but I took from it something completely different.

Sarah Vine is, in my view and from what I can recollect from reading her articles back when her husband was running for PM, is that she is almost as ambitious for him to be PM as he is. I think she is, in a roundabout sort of way, saying we (her and Gove) know what it takes and how it needs to roll to make family and political ambitions work together so, should her husband become PM, then no one needs to worry about the balance as they are 'good', they won't be 'doing a Hancock/Boris' or similar.

I get that may not be the correct angle but it's what I took so it's interesting to read other perspectives. I will go back and have a re-read now.

Blossomtoes · 27/06/2021 10:54

@PicsInRed

their role is as a critical friend to scrutinise executive decisions

This is quite the corporate euphemism. His sinews are straining and she scrutinises his executive decisions. 😂

I was talking about the NED role generally, not this specific instance. I’d have thought that was obvious to anyone with half a brain.
hellogem · 27/06/2021 11:04

The video footage is from may, I wonder why it took this long for it to get exposed?
If it's cctv, surely MH would know where in his office the camera is and obvs wouldn't do it right in full view of it
It seems more like it's hidden camera. The government will cover it up and say it's cctv as they wouldn't want the public to know there's been a security breach.

So has Gina also left her husband seen as they are moving in together. Everyone is talking about MH wife, there is also poor Gina husband. The humiliation he must've felt

amorphousblob · 27/06/2021 11:09

MH has certainly downgraded. oh dear, men eh? Hmm

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 11:12
Grin
IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 11:13

@ilovesooty

I don't believe that Gove has any character to assassinate.
GrinGrin
Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/06/2021 11:14

Let's not forget there were (fairly recent) threads about how "hot" he is

Wonder if those folk feel the same way now ... ?

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 27/06/2021 11:16

For the whistleblower my money is on someone at the DOH itself. It's pretty obvious to co workers when two colleagues are conducting a secret affair and they were probably rightly pissed off. All it takes is a contact at the Scum or wherever to set wheels in motion.

Lampzade · 27/06/2021 11:20

@C130

If I had to compile a list of "disgusting human beings" Diane Abbot would not even enter my thoughts.
Exactly
CagneyNYPD · 27/06/2021 11:28

So MH has left his marriage. It is rumoured that GD has also left her marriage. Hmmm.... Now that MH isn't a cabinet minister, front and centre, I do wonder if the appeal will fade. After all, Oliver Tress is a very successful, wealthy man. Perhaps the grass really isn't greener. Time will tell.

LunaNorth · 27/06/2021 11:29

@HeronLanyon

I ha want etched the video which bvs is embedded in loads of online new stories. Feel it would just be excruciating and I would never be be to unsee it. Has anyone watched and managed to carry on a halfway normal life ?
I think there will be a few people suffering from Long Sawvid.
midsomermurderess · 27/06/2021 11:29

Matt Hancock orchestrated the whole scene himself? That, even by MN standards of fantasising, is insane, entirely insane.

lljkk · 27/06/2021 11:36

[David Cameron] was absolutely brilliant at carving out time for his family

Is that character assassination about Gove (who seems to be like most, no worse) or saying she admired D-Cameron?

it's hardly character assassination to say "My husband is like most people"

PicsInRed · 27/06/2021 11:37

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Let's not forget there were (fairly recent) threads about how "hot" he is

Wonder if those folk feel the same way now ... ?

Perhaps Gina is a mumsnetter.

Or Hancock himself? Grin

Notonthestairs · 27/06/2021 11:38

I have had a good look at The Times article about the emails. I can't link it because it's behind a paywall - I've tried copying but have only managed bits (so it's not the full story).

They knew last December that MH was using personal accounts to run Department business -warned him, noted that they would be able to properly track negotiations/communications and gave him another account to use but he carried on using personal accounts whilst understanding that it would look shady.

I think MH is guilty of a lot more than an pathetic office affair.

Matt Hancock faces an investigation after using a personal email account instead of an official address during the pandemic in a breach of government guidelines.
Since March last year the former health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.
It means that the government does not hold records of much of Hancock’s decision-making, including negotiating multimillion-pound PPE contracts, setting up the £37 billion test and trace programme and overseeing the government’s care homes strategy.

The minutes concern a meeting about a Good Law Project legal challenge over Hancock’s decision to award a contract worth up to £75 million for “malfunctioning” tests to a firm linked to Sir John Bell, a government adviser.
In the minutes, Williams admits that he “doesn’t believe there was inappropriate acts on behalf of ministers but can clearly see the optics suggest otherwise”.
Since the meeting, Hancock has been given an official email account, although two Whitehall sources said that he still preferred to use Gmail. This is considered to be a less traceable form of communication.
Under the Freedom of Information Act, officials can request access to private email accounts. Yet the Information Commissioners Office (ICO) says such searches are rare. The individual must be asked to go through their own personal address and decide what to disclose, rather than handing it over to officials in full
The disclosures pose new questions about Hancock’s conduct. They suggest it will be difficult for officials to obtain evidence of his conduct in office before an independent inquiry into the government’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
His emails may also be important for any investigation into whether he breached MPs’ rules by sponsoring a parliamentary pass for Colandangelo. Cabinet Office guidance states explicitly that “it is expected that government business should be recorded on a government record system”.

Notonthestairs · 27/06/2021 11:39

Sorry Times article starts at "Matt Hancock faces..."

thenewduchessofhastings · 27/06/2021 11:40

If you strip it back to it's bare bones we've got another middle aged selfish male having a mid life crisis having a very cliche affair with a work colleague leaving the wife who's supported her husband building his very important career and has been doing the grunt work such as running the home/being the default parent whilst said husband is off building his very important career and her reward for her hard work is to become a divorced single mother.

How many times do we see this happen?

LittleBearPad · 27/06/2021 11:42

@lljkk

[David Cameron] was absolutely brilliant at carving out time for his family

Is that character assassination about Gove (who seems to be like most, no worse) or saying she admired D-Cameron?

it's hardly character assassination to say "My husband is like most people"

That’s not what she said.

She said “In a way that was unique among all the senior politicians I have ever known, he [David Cameron] was absolutely brilliant at carving out time for his family.”

Critical word in bold.

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