Matt Hancock affair (3)

[TheoMeo]

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

@Blossomtoes

All the brexit nay sayers on mn adamant it would close down and everyone in Sunderland would be thrust into poverty

To be fair, that’s exactly what Nissan was saying pre-referendum. It’s very good news that they changed their mind.

No one has reported how much the government paid bribed them to build in Sunderland. People have been asking but no answer

Today programme intimated £100 million for Nissan - but the question was left unanswered.

No answer and not denied.

@Regulus EXACTLY.

'No one has reported how much the government paid bribed them to build in Sunderland. People have been asking but no answer'

Well if they've invested so what! if it's kept production and expansion in this country that is a good thing.

JaniieJones, the problem for you is you can't use it as:

a) an example of how great this government is for investing in a private company

at the same time as

b) an example of how Brexit hasn't negatively impacted the private company.

If it was doing fine, why a govt bailout? Also, isn't it a bedrock of Toryism that companies should stand on their own two feet? And if that means whole industries (eg coal) and communities collapse, tough luck?

(Personally I think there is a role for some govt intervention sometimes industries, but I'm not a Tory.)

TBF, it hasn't been confirmed there was a govt bung. But going on the posts above, it does look rather likely.

Well if they've invested so what! if it's kept production and expansion in this country that is a good thing

It’s next door to nationalisation is what. I actually feel a bit sorry for anyone who voted Tory in 2019, what with all the money spaffing and nationalisation - yes, that’s basically what’s happening with the railways - they must be feeling pretty duped.

'I actually feel a bit sorry for anyone who voted Tory in 2019'

Oh don't feel sorry for us, you should be grateful tbh we've saved you for the unmitigated disaster the alternative at the time would have been.

@JaniieJones

'I actually feel a bit sorry for anyone who voted Tory in 2019'

Oh don't feel sorry for us, you should be grateful tbh we've saved you for the unmitigated disaster the alternative at the time would have been.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yeah right!

Ah, a what about Corbyn! Could he have been as useless as Hancock turned out to be?

@JaniieJones

'I actually feel a bit sorry for anyone who voted Tory in 2019'

Oh don't feel sorry for us, you should be grateful tbh we've saved you for the unmitigated disaster the alternative at the time would have been.

oh i don't know, almost 2 trillion in debt, huge fraud, an NHS in crisis, a generation robbed of their education and 150k dead but he can get PM stitched onto some overalls, so that makes him a winner lol!

Companies were literally setting themselves up over night to be given government money, pseudo "holiday" cottage owners given 10k per property, companies claiming furlough whilst getting employees to work.
the fraud is thought to run to 10s of billions an lets not talk about trac n trace's 34 billion poured down the drain ...... but no concern from the tory voters, its all "....but labour"

So so irritating “but the alternative”.

THE TORIES HAVE UNMITIGATEDLY FUCKED UP. I find it so hard to believe the alternative could ever have been any worse. And I hate how tories still try to defend them, despite all they’ve done wrong.

Oh don't feel sorry for us, you should be grateful tbh we've saved you for the unmitigated disaster the alternative at the time would have been

Now that is funny!

Sorry. Not grateful.

'Ah, a what about Corbyn! '

Not a what about. I'm explaining why the Conservatives are in power when that was the alternative.

As I keep on saying Labour need to get a decent and convincing opposition together and they haven't.

'oh i don't know, almost 2 trillion in debt, huge fraud, an NHS in crisis, a generation robbed of their education and 150k dead '

Yes that was the pandemic you see. A generation would have sadly been 'robbed of their education' whoever was in. We'll have to wait and see about the 'huge fraud' won't we. The 2 trillion in debt was necessary sadly to pay for such things as furlough and the massively extended critical care services, unless you'd like people to have been out of work without any pay and perhaps they shouldn't have chucked astronomical resources at the nhs to manage the surge. Yeah but no but?

And the £35billion on Dido's Track and Trace with it's really really bad record. Let's not forget that.
There's a thread on here about it at the moment funnily enough. The system is buggered in that it is incapable of linking family members quarantining together so families are getting sometimes 6 calls in one day, all lasting a long time of the same monotonous questions.

Johnson called it 'world beating' of course. His usual soundbite that has come back to bite him on the arse.

If we knew the money had been properly paid to the right service providers I think id accept it. But the use of personal emails by a number of ministers to bypass normal channels and the already known links between them reeks of cronyism.

You can decide for yourself Corbyn wasn't right for the country but also expect higher standards of public servants you do vote for.

The system is buggered in that it is incapable of linking family members quarantining together so families are getting sometimes 6 calls in one day, all lasting a long time of the same monotonous questions.

We have personally had a sample of that - you get to know the script off by heart. But they couldn't really tell us where we had supposedly been in contact with someone who was positive and we suspect that we weren't. Anyway, we had our negative tests and they stopped pestering us.

But I should have continued - it didn't surprise me that the delta variant was spreading because they were probably phoning the wrong people.

£37billion of ineffiency by the sounds of it...

I know the Johnson family slightly. Other members rather than Boris, although I've met him.

Al (aka Boris) is intelligent and articulate. He's nothing like 'Boris'. I really don't get what he's playing at. It's a complete joke, but it's not funny at all.

@Piglet89 and others !

Just got sent this! Let's make it happen!

www.change.org/p/west-suffolk-district-council-matthew-hancock-resign-as-mp-of-west-suffolk?

When labour left power the debt was 1 trillion. Despite 10 years of Tory austerity it rose to 1.9 trillion (March 2020). In December 2020 2.2 trillion. Soon the Tory cuts will come back with a vengeance. It’s not all down to Covid - tories haven’t been good at all with uk finances

Well done Kim Leadbeater. A win is a win. And it saw off GG (Ghastly George) with his hate ... he's gone all Trumpy and is launching a legal challenge on the result. Good luck on that GG.

Yes, I am pleased to see the Batley and Spen result after a dirty, divisive campaign. Apparently, it has previously been a Tory seat until Blair's landslide in 1997. You can't say that George Galloway siphoned off Labour votes - he could equally have taken them from people who might have voted Tory.