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Matt Hancock affair (3)

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TheoMeo · 27/06/2021 08:05

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

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Roussette · 28/06/2021 10:21

I don't think he did a decent job either.

We all remember his ring of steel round the care homes or whatever it was.

Now proven to be a complete and utter lie. And then he even lies about having said it! He said it on 15th, 18th and 19th May 2020. Then in June this year denies having said it at that time.
If he can lie about that, he can lie about anything.

ScribblyBaller · 28/06/2021 10:49

imagine thinking he did a 'bloody decent job'.

Blossomtoes · 28/06/2021 10:50

@Notonthestairs

I keep coming back to the fact he was warned off using private email accounts for negotiating government business and asked to use the department email system - and didn't.

It means that when the investigation happens they'll have to rely upon him handing over relevant emails.

So investigators will be hampered and we will never get to the truth of what went on behind the scenes - or there will always be questions.

I'd have been sacked for conducting work business like that.

I suspect his DoH computer will be forensically examined. He may well be asked to submit his personal devices too and we all know everything lives for ever on a hard drive, no matter how hard it’s scrubbed. I doubt we’ve heard the last of it, maybe it will come out when the government needs another “Look over here” moment.
BiscoffAddict · 28/06/2021 10:59

If people are wondering where he’s hiding have they tried Cheshire where he’s from and where his family are still live?😉

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2021 11:28

I appreciate that his personal emails will be requested.

However why continue to use personal email after specifically asked not to? He deliberately went against policy and advice.

I'm also not delighted that yet more money will need to be spent investing in legal advice and IT consultants to track down anything relevant.

jgw1 · 28/06/2021 11:40

@ScribblyBaller

imagine thinking he did a 'bloody decent job'.
Heck even his boss says he is useless.

Which rather brings into question his boss' judgement in leaving someone who is hopeless in post for so long and refusing to sack him when he undermined the governments vital public health message in a pandemic.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 12:18

@ScribblyBaller

imagine thinking he did a 'bloody decent job'.
I’m vaccinated. My 86 year old in laws in Cape Town still waiting

I was furloughed. 80%. With all the savings I made, I’m in a much better financial position pre than post.

My children go to a superb school school and lockdown provision was brilliant.

I have needed my GP throughout (other serious health issues) and it’s been exemplary. I even had an operation during lockdown! My care was first class.

So from my personal perspective - this government has done a brilliant job. I am sitting here now, fully vaccinated, financially secure and my children happy and at school.

That’s what drives my personal view.
If I was not vaccinated
If I had been left up the creek without a paddle financially
If I had been let down by my local nhs
And if my children weren’t now at school

Perhaps I would think differently.
But speaking just for me - I am satisfied with the job done overall

colouringindoors · 28/06/2021 12:41

Wow. I'm ok Jack!

Blossomtoes · 28/06/2021 12:45

@colouringindoors

Wow. I'm ok Jack!
Isn’t it just? Never mind all the people who died alone, who gives a shit? All the people who couldn’t attend their loved ones’ funerals, who cares? That post takes that over used word, selfish, to a whole new level.
ancientgran · 28/06/2021 13:16

We're all in it together folks!

Piglet89 · 28/06/2021 13:31

@Scaredycatmoo76 but we’re not assessing this government’s performance through the pandemic by reference to your individual personal experience of public services throughout.

Rarely have I read such a stupid post on this site, and that’s up against some pretty stiff competition.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 13:36

[quote Piglet89]@Scaredycatmoo76 but we’re not assessing this government’s performance through the pandemic by reference to your individual personal experience of public services throughout.

Rarely have I read such a stupid post on this site, and that’s up against some pretty stiff competition.[/quote]
And I wasn’t responding to the OP. It was a specific quote.

Goodness you sound so unpleasant.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 13:38

I am a single parent
No support network at all (parents died years ago)

It’s me and my children

Damn right I’ll be selfish - if my children are happy, settled and we are financially secure, then my energy goes on being their mother, running the house, working to earn as much as possible.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 13:39

And doesn’t leave a huge amount of time and every for thinking about others behind my closest friends and my sibling.

Blossomtoes · 28/06/2021 13:41

@Scaredycatmoo76

I am a single parent No support network at all (parents died years ago)

It’s me and my children

Damn right I’ll be selfish - if my children are happy, settled and we are financially secure, then my energy goes on being their mother, running the house, working to earn as much as possible.

I was a single parent for years. It didn’t mean my world stopped at my front door. What a great role model you are.
Piglet89 · 28/06/2021 13:46

Goodness you sound so unpleasant.

Not as much as you do, @Scaredycatmoo76

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 13:47

Yes, mine does

Children happy healthy and settled
We are financially secure
My job secure
My sibling happy and healthy
My three dearest friends and their immediate families happy and healthy

That’s me - essentially sorted.

Regulus · 28/06/2021 13:47

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9732933/Boris-Johnson-says-SACKED-Matt-Hancock.html

I guess when you lie so often you forget what the truth is

Dustyboots · 28/06/2021 13:47

*I’m vaccinated.
My 86 year old in laws in Cape Town still waiting

I was furloughed. 80%. With all the savings I made, I’m in a much better financial position pre than post.

My children go to a superb school school and lockdown provision was brilliant.

I have needed my GP throughout (other serious health issues) and it’s been exemplary. I even had an operation during lockdown! My care was first class.

So from my personal perspective - this government has done a brilliant job. I am sitting here now, fully vaccinated, financially secure and my children happy and at school.

That’s what drives my personal view.
If I was not vaccinated
If I had been left up the creek without a paddle financially
If I had been let down by my local nhs
And if my children weren’t now at school

Perhaps I would think differently.
But speaking just for me - I am satisfied with the job done overall*

People wonder who votes for the Tories and why they keep getting in. This is who and why.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 13:48

And because that’s how we all emerge from this

I think gov done pretty decently

As I say, different personal experience would undoubtedly lead to a different view

Piglet89 · 28/06/2021 13:49

Indeed @Dustyboots. Thatcher said it first - but in the mind of people like @Scaredycatmoo76 there literally is no such thing as society.

Dustyboots · 28/06/2021 13:50

*Children happy healthy and settled
We are financially secure
My job secure
My sibling happy and healthy
My three dearest friends and their immediate families happy and healthy

That’s me - essentially sorted.*

Do you see the world around you and beyond yourself, the three dearest friends and their immediate families? Is this a joke @Scaredycatmoo76?

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 13:50

* People wonder who votes for the Tories and why they keep getting in. This is who and why.*

Exactly.
I had an operation during lockdown. Care was superb. I was able to see my gp
I was furloughed on 80% fo protect my job

Two critical reasons why I think the government did pretty well

Dustyboots · 28/06/2021 13:51

And because that’s how we all emerge from this

all - ALL? Sorry I think this is a wind up.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 13:51

@Dustyboots

*Children happy healthy and settled We are financially secure My job secure My sibling happy and healthy My three dearest friends and their immediate families happy and healthy

That’s me - essentially sorted.*

Do you see the world around you and beyond yourself, the three dearest friends and their immediate families? Is this a joke @Scaredycatmoo76?

Quite simply I don’t have much time.

45 hour weeks
Children
Home
No support network
Health conditions of my own

Nope, it’s fairly insular

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