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Matt Hancock affair (3)

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TheoMeo · 27/06/2021 08:05

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

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Roussette · 28/06/2021 07:13

suppose he’d already had Covid-19 and was possibly already vaccinated

Wasn't there footage of him being jabbed, I do rememer seeing his little puny white arms with shirt rolled up.

Piglet89 · 28/06/2021 08:02

@Thewinterofdiscontent “Grow up”. Touché, well done, witty response.

The rest of us have definitely had to “grow up” in the last year, dealing with all sort of privations and hardships; some paying the ultimate price with loss of loved ones.

Meanwhile, diddums little Matty found the job of Health Secretary in a pandemic too too TOO hard, so he made sure he got in his bit on the side to provide a warm pair of bosoms on which to rest his weary head.

Cry me a river, Matt. Now, that’s a “grow up!” moment if ever I saw one.

hamstersarse · 28/06/2021 08:20

I’ve been wondering the same thing. I suppose he’d already had Covid-19 and was possibly already vaccinated.

Like most of the adult population! But he seems to think he had the right to enact personal responsibility, which this government haven’t fucking privileged the plebs.

That’s the galling bit. Not whether covid is dangerous.

BiscoffAddict · 28/06/2021 08:21

@Roussette

suppose he’d already had Covid-19 and was possibly already vaccinated

Wasn't there footage of him being jabbed, I do rememer seeing his little puny white arms with shirt rolled up.

Yeah he was vaccinated by JVT.
Peregrina · 28/06/2021 08:36

Wasn't there footage of him being jabbed, I do rememer seeing his little puny white arms with shirt rolled up.

You mean he didn't take his shirt of and show his manly chest like so many other politicians did?

tossers

Roussette · 28/06/2021 08:56

Oh hahaha yes (Although the Ukranian Minister has every right to, I need to go and look again..!)
Brendan Clarke is extremely hairy

Why they need to strip off god alone knows, they just look stupid. MH didn't, because his little white arm poked out from shirt, I remember

bitheby · 28/06/2021 09:32

He's just a bit younger than me but I'm in a different part of the UK that's moving faster. I had my first vaccine at the end of March. He had his first jab at the end of April. The cctv was from a week later. It's highly likely that he was seeing her before his vaccine. In any case that's irrelevant. Vaccine status doesn't change the social distancing rules.

SueSaid · 28/06/2021 09:35

@Roussette

suppose he’d already had Covid-19 and was possibly already vaccinated

Wasn't there footage of him being jabbed, I do rememer seeing his little puny white arms with shirt rolled up.

'Puny white arms'. Honestly. Criticise his behaviour yes but no need for childish insults.

I would imagine you'd be the first one outraged if posters mocked the appearance of others in the public eye.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 09:37

I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

He did a decent job. Must have almost killed himself with the stress and responsibility.

He’s cocked up and behaved abysmally but… I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2021 09:44

I keep coming back to the fact he was warned off using private email accounts for negotiating government business and asked to use the department email system - and didn't.

It means that when the investigation happens they'll have to rely upon him handing over relevant emails.

So investigators will be hampered and we will never get to the truth of what went on behind the scenes - or there will always be questions.

I'd have been sacked for conducting work business like that.

Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 09:45

@Notonthestairs

I keep coming back to the fact he was warned off using private email accounts for negotiating government business and asked to use the department email system - and didn't.

It means that when the investigation happens they'll have to rely upon him handing over relevant emails.

So investigators will be hampered and we will never get to the truth of what went on behind the scenes - or there will always be questions.

I'd have been sacked for conducting work business like that.

If they doubt the veracity and completeness They will be able to request access his computer
BiscoffAddict · 28/06/2021 09:45

@Scaredycatmoo76

I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

He did a decent job. Must have almost killed himself with the stress and responsibility.

He’s cocked up and behaved abysmally but… I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

Me neither. I don’t think he’s evil or psychopathic like some people on here claim. He’s just fucked up like we all do on occasion, most of us aren’t in the public eye though. I think he’ll come to regret walking out on his marriage so quickly instead of trying to work it out.
Notonthestairs · 28/06/2021 09:47

Why do it in the first place? @Scaredycatmoo76
He was asked not to.

Odisia · 28/06/2021 09:48

Scaredycat I agree.

Treehaus · 28/06/2021 09:50

@Scaredycatmoo76

I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

He did a decent job. Must have almost killed himself with the stress and responsibility.

He’s cocked up and behaved abysmally but… I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

I pity him rather than feel sorry for him. He made some terrible decisions, and instead of reaching out for help or whatever he seemed to double down on decisions, or lie. He wasn't too stressed to have an affair, or to sneak contracts in through the back door for his friends.
Scaredycatmoo76 · 28/06/2021 09:50

Oh I am so pleased I’m not alone.

I feel for him. He has given so much, and then for it to end like this. His fault. But… a very human fault in the sense - no evil. And we don’t know anything about his marriage.

What he did was wrong. But I really do feel for him. And I think he gave the job so much and did a bloody decent job.

Permanentlygrumpy · 28/06/2021 09:51

Do you think Hancock will cite extreme mental stress and momentarily lapse of intelligence as his defense?

Roussette · 28/06/2021 09:51

Janiie

The very very first time I post anything remotely insulting about someone who has behaved like a complete rat and insulted the country... and you're there with a comment to me. Hilarious!

If I was to list the insults, derogatory comments, and pathetic barbs you use day in day out about M&H, I would honestly be here until a week next Monday.

So just jog on

Roussette · 28/06/2021 09:55

I pity him rather than feel sorry for him. He made some terrible decisions, and instead of reaching out for help or whatever he seemed to double down on decisions, or lie. He wasn't too stressed to have an affair, or to sneak contracts in through the back door for his friends

I don't pity him. I'm angry with him. As you say... he wasn't too stressed out to sneak about having an affair and breaking the rules he set for us plebs. And the private email account, despite being told in December, he must not use it.
He has treated the general public with complete disdain as far as I'm concerned.

StormzyinaTCup · 28/06/2021 09:57

@Notonthestairs

I keep coming back to the fact he was warned off using private email accounts for negotiating government business and asked to use the department email system - and didn't.

It means that when the investigation happens they'll have to rely upon him handing over relevant emails.

So investigators will be hampered and we will never get to the truth of what went on behind the scenes - or there will always be questions.

I'd have been sacked for conducting work business like that.

Legally, I would think it wouldn't be too difficult to get copy emails. If you have companies undertaking contracts for the government then the government I'm sure would be within its rights to ask for any company email correspondence relating to contracts.

Illegally, maybe someone is already working on this (it's just a standard gmail account if reports are correct) and will be approaching The Sun in due course.

Bluethrough · 28/06/2021 09:57

@Scaredycatmoo76

I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

He did a decent job. Must have almost killed himself with the stress and responsibility.

He’s cocked up and behaved abysmally but… I just can’t help but feel sorry for him

Feel sorry for the innocent parties, they didn't ask for any of this and certainly didn't have the thrill of illicit sex.

Yes we can all fuck up or even fall in love but if you think you are the sort of person to lead the NHS in a pandemic, then certain higher standards must apply.

He could have stepped aside at any time and not tell us to stay away from our loved ones.

Few love a hypocrite.

BiscoffAddict · 28/06/2021 09:58

@Scaredycatmoo76

Oh I am so pleased I’m not alone.

I feel for him. He has given so much, and then for it to end like this. His fault. But… a very human fault in the sense - no evil. And we don’t know anything about his marriage.

What he did was wrong. But I really do feel for him. And I think he gave the job so much and did a bloody decent job.

Indeed for all we know the marriage may have been dead for years. Maybe he was always intending to leave his wife at some stage and this has just forced his hand? I suspect he will end up alone because I can’t see this affair lasting long term as to be Frank, he seems more into her than she is in him. Also for someone who was apparently unaware her husband was cheating, his wife doesn’t appear to give a shit and is still wearing her wedding ring. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

I would love to know who is leaking all this stuff about him having left and woke the kids up to tell them he was leaving? Where on Earth is that coming from? Not that I don’t doubt it’s true? Maybe Martha isn’t a meek as she looks?😉

Bluethrough · 28/06/2021 10:01

His marriage may have been dead (we don't know) but his 3 kids weren't.

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Devilishpyjamas · 28/06/2021 10:15

He didn't do a decent job. He has done nothing to lower the mortality rate of people with learning disabilities during his entire time in office. The death rate from Covid for people with learning disabilities is scandalous. He constantly forgot social care even existed and when he did remember he thought it was only for old people.

He was a useless health secretary and it now turns out he's a pretty unpleasant person as well. Not enough to be corrupt and handing out contracts to mates he now screws his family over as well. He's left his wife and children to be doorstepped by the press. What a hero.