Matt Hancock affair (2)

[TheoMeo]

Looks like we might need a new thread.

In the South of England the Tories did actually lose a lot of seats. I think they lost 9 in Oxfordshire, 14 in Surrey, 6 in Kent. But that wasn't the story the media told - it was all crowing about Hartlepool and the Red Wall.

@Permanentlygrumpy

It's a shame that all of this didn't come out before the May elections because the results might have been very different. To be fair, the public knew what the Tories were like and still voted for them.

I think they would have still got a lot of votes unfortunately. But then where the fuck is labour as a credible opposition? They are losing voters when this should have been an easy win considering how poor the covid response has been and how much a lot of people hate the tories allegedly.

Surely him having someone on his publicly funded payroll who didn't apply for the job in the true sense of the word who he has been best mates with for years would have been flagged as a conflict of interest anyway. It would be extremely coincidental if she was the only person in the country who could do that role, and so all of that was acknowledged but waived.

@Permanentlygrumpy

It's a shame that all of this didn't come out before the May elections because the results might have been very different. To be fair, the public knew what the Tories were like and still voted for them.

Batley and Spen on Thursday, here's hoping it is not as close as some predictions suggest.

Someone? Were you touched by the fact that Zahawi won 60% of the constituency vote in the 2019 general election? Quite a vote of confidence I would say if he was 'caught out' in 2018.

Stratford is your quintessential “pig in a blue rosette” constituency. I know because I lived there for many years and was for some of them quite heavily politically involved. Zahawi isn’t a particularly good constituency MP and is widely disliked.

Indeed, and that may be useful in another way.

Johnson's just a gladhanding bimbo who needs someone doing the actual reading, thinking and work – which is how Cummings survived for so long. Cummings was the one with his hand up the glove-puppet's arse.

I'm not entirely sure who filled that vacancy (Carrie?) but Carrie aside there always be a temptation on Johnson's part to take Cummings back.

Javid, now, as Health Secretary... If he starts to become a person on whom Johnson relies, that may help shut Cummings out. Javid's already shown he has no compunction in walking, and Johnson must fear he would do it again.

@Peregrina

In the South of England the Tories did actually lose a lot of seats. I think they lost 9 in Oxfordshire, 14 in Surrey, 6 in Kent. But that wasn't the story the media told - it was all crowing about Hartlepool and the Red Wall.

Very true. They weigh the Tory votes here normally, yet we have a Labour mayor. The Batley and Spen by election will be interesting.

Oh that was to Blossomtoes saying Javid originally walked over Cummings trying to dictate his Spads.

You read too many thrillers or something.

I probably do.

The affair is the least one of these dicks should have resigned over. I don’t give a fuck about his marriage. I give a fuck about unnecessary deaths, entire industries like the nighttime industry (multi billion) left to die.

Yes this. Add in the huge numbers suffering debilitating Long Covid.

Convenient as it is for all the others, for the blame to focus solely on Hancock, the responsibility is most certainly not his alone. Not least because the Department of Health receives money from the Treasury. Whether it's enough money to buy what's needed is decided by the chancellor...

Perhaps he's anticipated soon reporting into Rishi Sunak...and shortly thereafter taking back the Exchequer.

Yes Rishi Sunak. Silent but deadly. Quietly waiting in the wings. Heaven help the country if he becomes PM. The man responsible for inflating the house price bubble - losing the taxpayer billions in the process.

Alan Clark's wife Jane stayed with him during his multiple affairs, many detailed in his diaries.

Alan Clark married Jane when he was 30 and she was 16. It was an unconventional marriage, and not in a good way.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1214787/Diarist-womaniser-Alan-Clarks-wife-Jane-finally-speaks-extraordinary-interview.html

@MagicSummer

Just goes to show how destructively powerful and damaging the lure of free sex is

Free, you say?

@Tealightsandd I agree that Rishi Sunak is not the angel and wonderful person he is sometimes made out to be. He has not a clue about business and the real world, indeed only Norman Lamont was a worse Tory chancellor that I can remember.

@ancientgran

Sajid Javid gets the job.

Interesting move. Sajid Javid’s bright and has integrity (for a Tory ;-) ) I hope he does well

[quote newnortherner111]@Tealightsandd I agree that Rishi Sunak is not the angel and wonderful person he is sometimes made out to be. He has not a clue about business and the real world, indeed only Norman Lamont was a worse Tory chancellor that I can remember.[/quote]
Ah not quite. It would be very difficult to beat George Osborne in that regard. He wins the worst chancellor title.

Mind you, I expect when Rishi gets what he wants - the job of PM, it will be almost like Osborne never left Parliament. Austerity aka kill the poor and disabled, including the newly disabled Long Covid sufferers, round two (well, round three when including Blair's war on the disabled). Austerity is a failed policy. Osborne left us in more debt, but that won't stop Rishi having a go.

Rishi is not the replacement this country needs. Sadly I think it's going to happen.

This article is a few months old but still very relevant. It highlights Sunak's poor judgement.

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-covid-crisis-labour-b900538.html

Sunak definitely has the aura of somebody who silently but violently farts, innocently looks around bemused, and pins the blame on someone else. Silent but deadly.

Martha Hancock had no idea her husband was having an affair with his university friend until the health secretary broke the news and announced that their marriage was over.
He had raced home after being told by The Sun newspaper that they had obtained CCTV footage of him in and Coladangelo, 43, in his ministerial office. Hancock delivered the bombshell to his wife, who had previously considered their marriage “happy and stable”. He even woke up their youngest child, 8, to break the news that he was leaving.

From The Times....what an absolute shit

@AuldReekieCreakymemory

Martha Hancock had no idea her husband was having an affair with his university friend until the health secretary broke the news and announced that their marriage was over. He had raced home after being told by The Sun newspaper that they had obtained CCTV footage of him in and Coladangelo, 43, in his ministerial office. Hancock delivered the bombshell to his wife, who had previously considered their marriage “happy and stable”. He even woke up their youngest child, 8, to break the news that he was leaving.

From The Times....what an absolute shit

So who's leaking that info?! Her?

@AuldReekieCreakymemory

Martha Hancock had no idea her husband was having an affair with his university friend until the health secretary broke the news and announced that their marriage was over. He had raced home after being told by The Sun newspaper that they had obtained CCTV footage of him in and Coladangelo, 43, in his ministerial office. Hancock delivered the bombshell to his wife, who had previously considered their marriage “happy and stable”. He even woke up their youngest child, 8, to break the news that he was leaving.

From The Times....what an absolute shit

If this is true I hope to God he gets everything he deserves.

A woman having an affair with a man would be insane to move in with him if he only leaves his wife after someone else (in this case The Sun) exposes the affair. It hardly reeks of unbridled devotion.

@Tealightsandd

Sunak definitely has the aura of somebody who silently but violently farts, innocently looks around bemused, and pins the blame on someone else. Silent but deadly.

And he's been very quiet lately...staying safely clear of whatever he apparently seemed to know he needed to stay clear from...

Boris is simply waiting for the axe to fall.

i remember the early covid threads here on mumsnet....everyone loved Hancock and were gushing over how nice and normal he was!!

@SorrySoldOut

i remember the early covid threads here on mumsnet....everyone loved Hancock and were gushing over how nice and normal he was!!

That was an enormous part of his schtick: nice, decent, normal fanily man. He doesn't have the psychopathic charm of Johnson which enables Johnson to replicate himself rampantly without political consequence (thusfar...) and without the family man image, Hancock's toast.

And he's been very quiet lately...staying safely clear of whatever he apparently seemed to know he needed to stay clear from...

Clever isn't he.

He's as responsible as Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock. But everyone seems to have forgotten that.

From what I've heard of him, Sunak is the last person to set someone up. He's apparently a likeable man and well respected.

This is much more Gove's style.

My feeling is that the covid recovery group (and openers like Sunak) is behind this in some way, though that's just a sense. The media narrative on the merits of lockdowns seems to have shifted today and that's quite the coincidence.

Another one who's quite quiet is Steve Baker. The plot thickens?

I have always felt uncomfortable about Handjob (easy to say now I know) but he had this pious attitude that just did not ring true. He was puffed up with his own self importance. I now know why. He was playing big man to the lover.