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AIBU to be upset about holiday?

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AnyaDoesntLikeBunnies · 25/06/2021 11:00

Apologies in advance as this might be a bit of a long one.

My DDad passed away 10 years ago, and we scattered his ashes in his favourite holiday place. It's a long way from where we live and you can't just go for a day, and every time I see my Mum we always talk about how lovely it would be to go on a holiday there with the whole family (I have 2x siblings).

We were all in DM's garden a couple of weeks ago and she said that they (my mum and siblings and their partners) were planning to go on holiday there next May, and asked me and DH if we wanted to go, and we said yes we'd love to. I was really happy about it because I would love to do a family holiday again, the last time we did one was when we went to scatter the ashes in the first place.

We chatted about it for about 20 minutes and then DM said that her friend Diane and her family were going too. This is a problem to us because DH won't spend any time with Diane at all. She has been really horrible to my Mum over the years and they've had some nasty falling outs which have devsatated my Mum. They used to be really close and go to this place on holiday together every year, my siblings are the same age as her children and DDad was close with her DH. After the most recent falling out they have got back to being friends but haven't been on holiday together since, not since DDad died. DH really hates her and so he doesn't want us to go on this holiday now. I don't like her either but I am of the opinion that it's up to my Mum who she is friends with, but I wouldn't want to go either with Diane going as it would make an awkward situation for everyone.

But the thing is, I'm really upset about it. DH won't go there another time just us as he's not that fussed about the place itself. I feel an attachment to it because it's somewhere my Dad loved and I have happy memories of being there with him and I would have loved for us all to go back to mark the ten years since we were there last. I'm hurt that they've planned a holiday together, that they know excludes me, when me and my Mum literally talk about it all the time about how much we would love to all go there together again. I also feel a bit used in a way as my Mum generally doesn't have anyone to go on holiday with since DDad died, so we have taken and paid for her to go away with us, and we are taking her with us on holiday at Christmas (Covid allowing of course).

AIBU to be upset by this, and if so how should I handle it? I don't know if I should tell them I'm upset or if I just need to get over it. I can be a bit of a doormat about things sometimes and hate the idea of making people upset, or people changing their plans to accomodate me but it's been really bothering me and I can't seem to let go of it.

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Am I being unreasonable?

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mamaoffourdc · 25/06/2021 19:26

Could you not have a grown up conversation with your mum and siblings and explain for the 10th anniversary you would like it to be just family x

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Ohhyeahright · 25/06/2021 19:50

Oh op that’s so hurtful. I’m so sorry

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QueenBee52 · 25/06/2021 21:09

@lockdownalli

You sound absolutely exhausting OP.

How so ?
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CJsGoldfish · 26/06/2021 02:10

The OP makes it sound like YEARS since they had a falling out. She says the last time was when her mother was grieving the loss of her dad. Of course, grief does not have a timeline but the OPs post is written in a way that makes it seem as it was early days. So years ago.

Long time for DH to be holding a grudge especially if they have gotten past it in the YEARS since it happened.
No one has been excluded. DH is just being a dick by not supporting something important to you. You're making the choice not to go.

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BadNomad · 26/06/2021 05:46

It sounds like this is a group holiday rather than a family holiday. Your mum and her friends are going away and have invited their children along. I do think if your husband can't be civil then he definitely shouldn't go. Same for you if you'll just sit there like a lemon not talking. It'll spoil the atmosphere for everyone. You ARE invited. Your mum is probably just hoping (seeing as it is HER friend and THEIR relationship) that you and your husband might wind your necks in a get over yourselves.

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anotherday235 · 26/06/2021 05:54

I think your mum is the one being difficult. Why invite along someone her daughter and husband don't like on a holiday that is meant to be about remembering your dad. Especially as this women made her life hell around the time of your dad's passing.

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Sciurus83 · 26/06/2021 07:05

Put your big girl pants on, go without DH for the anniversary and remember your Dad the way you want to then come home after a couple of days. PP was right that they didn't want the holiday you wanted, that is a shame, and I think you do have a right to be aggrieved but you'll feel more bitter if you don't go at all. Diane sounds awful, but DH needs to suck it up for you or not go, and you need to be fine with going alone. Frankly you might enjoy some time away from DH maybe?

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Ladylokidoki · 26/06/2021 07:30

Why invite along someone her daughter and husband don't like on a holiday that is meant to be about remembering your dad. Especially as this women made her life hell around the time of your dad's passing.

Because maybe the mum thinks, as ut was such a long time ago, ops dh needs to get over it.

Maybe she wants her friend there instead of planning it around ops dh?

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LivingLaVidaCovid · 26/06/2021 07:59

So I think your mum has been a bit of a dick here.
Why does Diane get to come on a family holiday????

I perhaps understand more as my own mother is very kind and people pleasing and attracts a variety of abusive users - she facilitates them massively and somehow only finds her anger for me when I object to whatever the awful users latest scummy behaviour is. Confused
We have our own "Diane" and my ultra mild mannered DH barely suffers her and in private is rather vocal. So I can relate.

Talk to your mum alone, explain how important it is to you and you'd love core family only so you can remember your dad fondly. You respect your mum's choice to be friends with Diane but she must understand it is hard for you as Diane caused so much pain around the time of your father's death so it's not ideal to have her there when you go to remember your dad. Basically it will be uncomfortable and sad for you.
She can go someplace else with Diane another week or go to the same place next year. Would that work?
If she wont consider it ask her why she cares more about facilitating Diane rather than her own child?

That said if she reallt wont move on it. I'd go without my DP.

Fuck Diane don't let her rob you, she's taken enough.

Fun facts
My mum once gave our Diane my main christmas present as she made a cats bum face about everything else my mum thoughtfully bought for her. She initially liked the expensive perfume gift set my mum bought for me and panic-gifted Diane. Diane then later on changed her mind and gave my perfume to the cleaner....
I eventually refused to spend Christmas with Diane so my mum spent a few Christmas' cooking for Diane and I spent it alone as "it would be awful for Diane to be left alone at christmas" Envy

I am currently helping my mother cater an elaborate milestone birthday for FUCKING Diane where we will be serving actual guests... so my advice is probably worth shit.

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NoSquirrels · 26/06/2021 08:31

Everyone keeps saying this is a “family holiday” and why does Diane get to come etc.

But the fact is, it’s not been planned as a “family holiday to remember Dad”.

OP and her mum have often discussed together how nice it would be to go as a family. But her siblings haven’t been enthusiastic.

Now her siblings, mum and Diane have together planned a group holiday to this place. In the OP it says very clearly they used to holiday with Diane’s family, that OP’s siblings were the same age as Diane’s children, who will also be going. Everyone likes this idea, is keen. Except OP. For everyone else this is a nostalgic two-family trip.

Not a 10-year-anniversary of scattering Dad’s ashes.

In fact, we don’t know if the holiday was in fact Diane’s idea to go next year and Mum/siblings are the ones picking up on the initial idea by Diane. So she couldn’t be ‘uninvited’ from the trip. It’s been planned with her as an integral part of it.

OP is not wrong to be hurt - it sounds like she’s often the odd one out in this group dynamic. And it's hurtful no one wanted to go when it was just family only every time it was suggested.

But it really doesn’t sound like anyone’s done anything deliberately to hurt OP - so laying a guilt trip would be inappropriate. Why should a big group of people change plans to suit 2 people?

I think OP should be honest she’s disappointed with both siblings and Mum that it’s not something she’d enjoy and it’s upsetting because they know she hoped to go with just them. But not in an effort to get them to change their minds. Just to be emotionally honest about it.

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billy1966 · 26/06/2021 09:02

OP,
I can understand your upset and disappointment.

Neither of you want to be in Diane's company and dispite conversations about visiting the place as a family many times your mother has suited herself and invited Diane.

Actions, not words.

Diane is your mother's priority in this, not you.

You have been invited but they clearly know that you won't go because of historical events.

You could go on your own but you aren't interested in the drinking holiday that your mother and Diane are planning.

I think you can definitely be very disappointed but your mothet is suiting herself.

Stop bringing the woman on holidays if it doesn't suit you.

Your mother is suiting herself, you do likewise.
Flowers

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Orchidflower1 · 26/06/2021 09:53

Is it REALLY only the way Diane has behaved that pees off your dh? This kind of reads like an article in a women’s mag- has dh had anything more to do with Diane?

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QueenBee52 · 26/06/2021 12:42

@Orchidflower1

Is it REALLY only the way Diane has behaved that pees off your dh? This kind of reads like an article in a women’s mag- has dh had anything more to do with Diane?

Seriously... 🙄

why do people do this ?
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GreyhoundG1rl · 26/06/2021 12:44

Seriously... 🙄

why do people do this ?

Because it would be less bizarre than the way op has portrayed it? 🤷🏻‍♀️

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clpsmum · 26/06/2021 12:44

Go without DH his choice

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QueenBee52 · 26/06/2021 12:51

@GreyhoundG1rl

Seriously... 🙄

why do people do this ?

Because it would be less bizarre than the way op has portrayed it? 🤷🏻‍♀️



it really doesn't ....
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Briarshollow · 26/06/2021 13:21

This is so, so weird.

Either your H has shagged Diane, or he’s super controlling, either way it’s phenomenally weird that he gives any kind of a shit about his MIL’s mates and that his wife appears to be so browbeaten she feels she go away with her own family without him.

I can’t follow any of it, OP. All very odd. I probably wouldn’t bother if I were you. Anyway, it sounds like you have bigger problems.

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Briarshollow · 26/06/2021 13:21

Can’t go away* without him.

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NeverMetANiceOne · 26/06/2021 13:31

I'm trying so hard to see this from the OP's point of view, but I just can't.
Go, or don't go, but it's your decision based on something that shouldn't even really be your problem

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looptheloopinahulahoop · 26/06/2021 13:41

@Skiptheheartsandflowers

I would go but not for the whole week. Do a few days, have your time to remember your dad, then leave.

I'm also in the camp of finding it odd that your husband has taken such a strong stance on this.

They don't get on, don't like each other and he doesn't want to spend time in her company. Seems fairly clear to me.

I find many of the responses on this thread quite weird. I am the first to say that you can be civil for a 45 minute funeral and need to grow up if you can't, but a week's holiday is a bit different and I'd be refusing to spend that amount of time with someone I didn't get on with, too.
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JassyRadlett · 26/06/2021 13:59

Ok, so your siblings and your DH have both been bits of tears here. Your husband sounds pretty self-centred and like he can’t get over himself for your sake. Your siblings have clearly been a bit thoughtless but tbh they may be a bit weary of all the drama over Diane. It’s a bit self-indulgent to refuse to associate with a friend of your mum or MIL in that way.

However what stuck out to me was this:

DH won't go there another time just us as he's not that fussed about the place itself.

What the everlasting fuck? He wouldn’t go on holiday to a place you really want to go that holds huge meaning for you because he’s not fussed about it?

Exactly what kind of twat is he?

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LemonFantaGin · 26/06/2021 15:02

So your mum arranged a family holiday, but invited her mate before she invited you?

Book it, just you and DH the week before 😊

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GreyhoundG1rl · 26/06/2021 15:06

@LemonFantaGin

So your mum arranged a family holiday, but invited her mate before she invited you?

Book it, just you and DH the week before 😊

The dh won't go under any circumstances. RTFT.
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BarbarianMum · 26/06/2021 15:20

Either you H has shagged Diane or he's super controlling

Or Diane is an utter cunt and the OPs mum is a doormat?

My money's on the third.

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GreyhoundG1rl · 26/06/2021 15:24

@BarbarianMum

Either you H has shagged Diane or he's super controlling

Or Diane is an utter cunt and the OPs mum is a doormat?

My money's on the third.

So why does op's dh give a shit when op's own siblings don't?
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