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AIBU to ask if the Irish have to apply to stay in the UK post Brexit?

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Weetabixelly · 23/06/2021 20:31

My in laws say that they have received a card through the post stating that the Irish have to apply to remain in the UK post Brexit. They are a bit vague on exactly who has sent this card.

They came from Southern Ireland to live in the UK in the early 1960s and have lived here ever since.

Looking online, it looks like the Irish don't have to apply for settled status?

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Sillawithans · 24/06/2021 23:08

@EmeraldShamrock ah lighten up Flowers

Weetabixelly · 24/06/2021 23:35

I feel very bad that I have inadvertently sparked such controversy.

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SionnachRua · 24/06/2021 23:42

@Weetabixelly

I feel very bad that I have inadvertently sparked such controversy.
Yerra don't feel bad, could be worse. You should've asked are Barry's or Lyons teabags better for maximum Irish controversy.
Sillawithans · 24/06/2021 23:45

@SionnachRua Lyons of course!

belleager · 24/06/2021 23:47

[quote Sillawithans]@SionnachRua Lyons of course![/quote]
We agree on all points Grin

SticksAndStoned · 24/06/2021 23:49

@Weetabixelly

I feel very bad that I have inadvertently sparked such controversy.
Don't feel bad!

I think the discussions that come out of things like this are important. The link that was posted with the history was interesting (even if it did start badly). I don't think raising awareness of why using the term 'Southern Ireland' is regarded as offensive is a bad thing. Even if was unintentional!

EmeraldShamrock · 25/06/2021 00:00

I feel very bad that I have inadvertently sparked such controversy.
Don't give it another negative thought, pp is correct it could be much worse, if you'd have inadvertently mentioned which Tayto tastes the best tempers would flare. 😉
Never mind the bloody teabags.

Sillawithans · 25/06/2021 00:00

@belleager we have good taste Grin

ClareBlue · 25/06/2021 00:13

There was common trade, freedom of movement, freedom of residency, tax
reciprocation, voting rights, health rights, social welfare rights etc etc between the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland way before the EEC even had a coal trading agreement or thought about becoming the EU. The reciprocal rights have been established way beyond membership of the EU and the Treaty of Rome, Lisbon, Amsterdam or Mairstrict which constitute EU rights, and withdrawal from the EU doesn't effect the rights... unless...the EU rules a member state can not enter into this with a non EU member.

So far they have not, so all the rights remain.

ClareBlue · 25/06/2021 00:15

@Crocodilesoup

Mind you I'm watching Smother at the moment and that's a beautiful part of the country it's filmed in (Co Clare I think)
It is, just down the road.
Crocodilesoup · 25/06/2021 00:21

It's a bad looking sea though, coming over the sea wall onto the houses at one point - I would find that a bit scary!

pheebumbalatti · 25/06/2021 01:44

There's this thing called the Common Travel Area which has existed since around the time of Irish independence in the 1920s which gives citizens whether they are from the UK or Republic of Ireland the right to live, work and study anywhere in either country. So no they don't need settled status they are already effectively citizens in that regard. Similarly, a british person could go and live and work Dublin and not need a visa.

RainbowMum11 · 25/06/2021 02:46

I wasn't aware I shouldn't add EIRE to the postal address - my DF and DSis live in Dublin, he has for over 35 years and my DSis were born there (he is English/British or whatever) - they don't have to apply for the settled status as the relationship between England/Britain/UK and ROI goes way back further than the EU so they have a longer standing agreement .

Saoirse82 · 25/06/2021 02:55

@Thunderface There is Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. I come from the North and I come from Ireland. Ireland is the whole island of Ireland.

LizzieAnt · 25/06/2021 05:06

Ireland is the whole island of Ireland
as well as the name of the country (aka ROI).

Just googled Fifteens too. Yum indeed!

CareBear50 · 25/06/2021 11:24

@Thunderface

There is Ireland and Northern Ireland. There is no country called Southern Ireland.
Biscuit
LizzieAnt · 25/06/2021 11:48

Oh dear, we're back to the start. Have you RTFT CareBear50?

CreamCabbages · 28/08/2021 23:42

Ooops! - posted too early!

Irish citizens don’t need to apply for settled status in the UK.

*EmeraldShamrock

My Irish citizen husband refers to Southern Ireland🤷‍♀️
Well he shouldn't if he is Irish, he should know better. In NI they'll say down south which is correct if up north but not southern Ireland.

That’s all very true in a technical sense, but when referring to the 26 counties in local parlance, especially in border counties,!the term ‘ The South’ is pretty interchangeable with ‘The Republic’. And I say that as someone from the north of the south Smile

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