AIBU to ask if the Irish have to apply to stay in the UK post Brexit?

[Weetabixelly]

My in laws say that they have received a card through the post stating that the Irish have to apply to remain in the UK post Brexit. They are a bit vague on exactly who has sent this card.

They came from Southern Ireland to live in the UK in the early 1960s and have lived here ever since.

Looking online, it looks like the Irish don't have to apply for settled status?

There is Ireland and Northern Ireland. There is no country called Southern Ireland.

@Thunderface

There is Ireland and Northern Ireland. There is no country called Southern Ireland.

Helpful.

OP, a quick google says that Irish citizens don't need to do anything to continue living in the UK. I'd think it was a scam.

No they don't. It excludes those from ROI.

See here: www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/eligibility

Very helpful thunderface

Maybe not helpful but true nonetheless.

No they don't and it works the same the other way around too. There is a reciprocal agreement between U.K. and the rep of Ireland.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance/common-travel-area-guidance

No, they don't. Is it a shit-stirring card from a local political group?

@Thunderface

There is Ireland and Northern Ireland. There is no country called Southern Ireland.

There's no country called Southern England, or Northern Scotland either. Doesn't mean people wouldn't know where it refers to.

No, Ireland isn't on the list of EU settlement scheme countries.

The radio adverts in Scotland specifically state "Irish citizens do not need to apply" so I assume that applies across the uk (because despite what queen Nicola likes to think we're actually still all one uk)

@Thunderface
Agreed!

100% no need to apply. Irish citizens and British citizens retain the right to live in each other’s countries with no visa required.

@SticksAndStoned
Huh? There's a major difference. If someone said Southern England you would assume they mean The South Of England, not the country England. Similarly if you say Southern Ireland, you would think The South Of Ireland - Cork etc. NOT Ireland / the Republic of Ireland which contains parts that are more northerly than Northern Ireland!!!!!!

Imagine if someone referenced England, as Southern Scotland, that's far more accurate a comparison, and it's just incorrect, just like saying "Southern Ireland" is simply incorrect, rude and ignorant.

In this context I think we can assume the OP meant 'not Northern Ireland' unless of course it would be more reasonable to assume that they think there might be different regulations for people from Cork or Kerry for example. And as the countries are Ireland and Northern Ireland there's no need to add Southern.

@5566rfghh I came on to say exactly that!! It's totally different!!

@Thunderface but the two countries are really not Ireland and Northern Ireland it's the Republic of Ireland really.

Ireland refers to the whole island.

Ireland and the UK (plus some other places) have a separate common travel treaty (common travel area) that is unrelated to the EU.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance

I think it's safe to ignore it!

My Irish citizen husband refers to Southern Ireland🤷‍♀️

My Grandpa used to refer to ROI as "Southern Ireland" (or sometimes, the free state). It's quite possibly terminology that some older people might use?

No they don't have to do anything

[quote qualitygirl]@5566rfghh I came on to say exactly that!! It's totally different!!

@Thunderface but the two countries are really not Ireland and Northern Ireland it's the Republic of Ireland really.

Ireland refers to the whole island. [/quote]
Tell that to the Irish government then, they refer to the country as Ireland as per our Constitution. The UK Government finally came around to calling us Ireland in the Good Friday Agreement too.

Republic of Ireland is also acceptable and widely used but that is the description of the State, not the name.

@NameyNameyNameChangey

My Grandpa used to refer to ROI as "Southern Ireland" (or sometimes, the free state). It's quite possibly terminology that some older people might use?

Yes I agree. It tended to be a term used in border counties but has probably fallen out of use now.

OP - definitely no settled status needed. They can ignore safely.n

My Irish citizen husband refers to Southern Ireland🤷‍♀️
Well he shouldn't if he is Irish, he should know better. In NI they'll say down south which is correct if up north but not southern Ireland.
OP no they're fine.

My Grandpa used to refer to ROI as "Southern Ireland" (or sometimes, the free state). It's quite possibly terminology that some older people might use?
Are you sure he doesn't say down south when referring to the Republic?
DP's DGM always said "Free state" the phrase makes me smile.

Well, I'm from The South Of Ireland, as in, not The North.
I wouldn't be reprimanding anybody for saying the south of Ireland. We all know what that means.

[quote 5566rfghh]@SticksAndStoned
Huh? There's a major difference. If someone said Southern England you would assume they mean The South Of England, not the country England. Similarly if you say Southern Ireland, you would think The South Of Ireland - Cork etc. NOT Ireland / the Republic of Ireland which contains parts that are more northerly than Northern Ireland!!!!!!

Imagine if someone referenced England, as Southern Scotland, that's far more accurate a comparison, and it's just incorrect, just like saying "Southern Ireland" is simply incorrect, rude and ignorant.[/quote]
Yes exactly!!

What is the island called then?