AIBU to ask if the Irish have to apply to stay in the UK post Brexit?

[Weetabixelly]

My in laws say that they have received a card through the post stating that the Irish have to apply to remain in the UK post Brexit. They are a bit vague on exactly who has sent this card.

They came from Southern Ireland to live in the UK in the early 1960s and have lived here ever since.

Looking online, it looks like the Irish don't have to apply for settled status?

@BlackForestCake

What is the island called then?

Also called Ireland. It can mean the geographic entity or the nation. Just as bark, swing or jam have multiple meanings to them, I suppose.

While I'm on the topic, Ireland also doesn't officially recognise the term British Isles

Irish and U.K citizens can live in either country, these rights are set apart from the EU situation.

My grandparents always called it 'The Free State'. How about Eire?

I live in NI. Its really disrespectful to call it Southern Ireland. It's Ireland. People calling it that are doing so with an agenda.

I'd say that card is either a scam or some political group trying to shit stir and raise tensions.

[quote 5566rfghh]@SticksAndStoned
Huh? There's a major difference. If someone said Southern England you would assume they mean The South Of England, not the country England. Similarly if you say Southern Ireland, you would think The South Of Ireland - Cork etc. NOT Ireland / the Republic of Ireland which contains parts that are more northerly than Northern Ireland!!!!!!

Imagine if someone referenced England, as Southern Scotland, that's far more accurate a comparison, and it's just incorrect, just like saying "Southern Ireland" is simply incorrect, rude and ignorant.[/quote]
This.

Eire with that spelling means burden. Éire is the country. But there's a weird history there with the British refusing to recognise and use the chosen English language name of the country...and if you think about it, it is a bit odd to randomly throw an Irish word into an English language conversation. You wouldn't talk about a flight transfer through Deutschland or holidays in Nippon, would you?

I'm Irish. Apologies for my phone!

I am very aware what names are used and have been used over the years for ROI, being a national

Imagine if someone referenced England, as Southern Scotland, that's far more accurate a comparison, and it's just incorrect, just like saying "Southern Ireland" is simply incorrect, rude and ignorant

If someone called England 'Southern Scotland' I would laugh. It would help make up for the many times England is used as a synonym for the UK.

All I was saying is that we know what op was referring to. I don't think op was trying to be disrespectful or rude. It's entirely possible that her in laws refer to it that way. I have an Irish friend that does, to differentiate it from Northern Ireland, when she is introduces herself. Is she incorrect, rude and ignorant?

Thanks all for the advice everyone. Sorry I have used the wrong name for Republic of Ireland. I will make sure not to make the same mistake again.

Using Southern Ireland instead of ROI is ignorant, and in my opinion, has the potential to be offensive. You only have to ask the people of Donegal.

@eurochick

My Irish citizen husband refers to Southern Ireland🤷‍♀️

Do you mean 'Irish citizen' as in born and bred in Ireland, or 'Irish citizen' as in a grandparent was Irish and they applied for citizenship in order to get an irish passport?

I have never heard an Irish person refer to the Republic of Ireland as 'Southern Ireland'. Ever!

England is southern Britain isn't it?

#ConfusedForeigner

I thought it was called home. As in home home.

I have an Irish friend that does, to differentiate it from Northern Ireland, when she is introduces herself. Is she incorrect, rude and ignorant? All 3 I'd say.

I am Irish and say I am from Ireland, when I post letters to family in the republic I use EIRE . Currently living in the UK.

@TacoSunday

Using Southern Ireland instead of ROI is ignorant, and in my opinion, has the potential to be offensive. You only have to ask the people of Donegal.

Yes, point taken. When talking to In Laws, we always just say Ireland in normal conversation. I think I mistakenly referred to it as Southern Ireland as I just wanted to make sure that people knew I wasn't talking about Northern Ireland.

@NameyNameyNameChangey

My Grandpa used to refer to ROI as "Southern Ireland" (or sometimes, the free state). It's quite possibly terminology that some older people might use?

My MIL still calls it the free state.

@StayCalmX

Well, I'm from The South Of Ireland, as in, not The North. I wouldn't be reprimanding anybody for saying the south of Ireland. We all know what that means.

Yes. It means Cork.

Yes. It means Cork.

Aka the true Republic

Ha ha!

There's a thread "Even children born in the UK need to apply" - one week left to apply for the EU Settlement Scheme (EUSS) http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/guest_posts/4276860-Even-children-born-in-the-UK-need-to-apply-one-week-left-to-apply-for-the-EU-Settlement-Scheme-EUSS in Craicnet (even though it doesn't apply to Irish people ) giving all the details.

@SionnachRua

Yes. It means Cork.

Aka the true Republic

Ironically, the In Laws were originally from Cork, so maybe Southern Ireland was correct after all!

Aha I feckin knew it @Weetabixelly

@JaneJeffer

Aha I feckin knew it *@Weetabixelly*

@Letsgetreadytocrumble born and bred in Ireland. Both parents (and all ancestors) Irish. Has an Irish passport. Has lived in the U.K. for a while but has never taken U.K. citizenship.

I was quite surprised to hear him use it as I had understood it was not a term liked by Irish people. Clearly not all think the same way about it.