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To be upset about crap birthday gifts from friends?

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AMidsummerNight · 22/06/2021 22:49

Short version: I am in a tight group of four friends and we do joint presents. Mine always cost less and are crappy whereas theirs are always really good, and I have to pay for them.

For Context:
We have been friends as a group of four, for 3 years. We met through work. They were all friends with each other before I joined the group, they lived together in a flat for a year before I got close with them. I spent a lot of time at their flat for girls nights and we also had a lot of nights out together. Friend C has now moved out of the flat and has her own place in another part of the UK. I am now living elsewhere so there's just Friend A and B still in the flat together. We don't meet up as a group very often anymore. They are my closest friends, but it can't be denied that they are closer to each other than they are with me (probably because they knew each other before and have lived with each other/are still living with each other)

For our birthdays we do group presents - so the other three all chip in for the fourth person's present. There is always a group chat created to discuss what present we are getting and how much we each need to pay towards it. I have a lot less money than all three of them but always pay whatever is needed, even if it's difficult. Every year I am part of three group 'birthday' chats on FB to discuss what we are buying for the 'birthday girl'. I never usually get a say in what is bought because the other two always come in with ideas from the start, based on what they know the person will want because of what they have said they want, or seem to need. I always feel a bit left out and useless because I don't live with them/haven't known them as long and so don't know what they have said/hinted at. This means that I just have to say 'yes that sounds good' and then pay whatever my share of the price works out to be.

I have noticed that each year I am always the one who has the least spent on me. I know this from googling what my gift cost, or just knowing the price. Due to Covid preventing us all from meeting up and all living in different parts of the country, I haven't yet had my birthday present from last November. The plan is to all meet up next month for a group birthday celebration and exchanging of presents that three of us haven't yet had. So I don't yet know what my present for this year is, but the last two years my gifts from all three of them were:

Year one: A bottle of pink gin, a bottle of (cheap) wine, box of Ferrero Rocher and a mini bag of Thornton's chocolates. Can't have been more than about 30 pounds. Meaning about 10 pounds each.
Year two: A small bottle of organic gin liquor and a few packs of socks from Primark...I googled the exact gin and found that it was 10 pounds. The packs of socks can't have been more than 20 pounds altogether. So that's 30, again about 10 pounds each (and that's being generous because the socks might not have been that much.)

As I said, I still don't know what my gift from last year is and will find out next month. Because their birthdays all fall earlier in the year than mine, I have now paid towards presents for all three of them, for three years. All of them have worked out as a minimum of 15 pounds per person, sometimes a lot more. In 2019 the long list of presents for friend A came to around 70 pounds, which I think was about 23 pounds per person. She got really expensive Ciroc vodka, perfume, jewellery etc...this year she is getting new trainers, an ear ring hanger and a personalised mug. Last year she got a Onesie that cost 70 pounds. Friend B has had coffee from Whittards 'because she loves it', books that she likes, clothes, perfume....Friend C has had a really expensive, fancy bra and a canvas painting of her favourite piece of artwork. Friend A in 2019 was the most expensive and I don't think it was fair to any of the other three of us because none of us have ever had 70 pounds worth of presents. But all of their presents have always been 15, 16, 17, or even 23 pounds each. While my two cannot have been more than 10 each, if not less than that.

It's not just about the money. It's that my presents have always been the generic alcohol and chocolates, whereas theirs have always been more thought out items that they know the person wants. I know that the three of them have known each other longer and are therefore closer/perhaps know more what they want/more inclined to spend money on each other, but I do talk to all of them every day, we have a group chat...and I have mentioned authors that I love and things I would love to buy but can't afford (which is usually how they decide on presents for each other). They know that I love books by Sophie Kinsella and that there a few new ones out that I don't yet have, they know that I want the full set of The Lord of The Rings and Harry Potter, they know that I love candles and have wanted a nail set for ages but would never justify buying it for myself. Yet all I've had is alcohol and chocolates that cannot have come to more than 10 pounds per person. And three years in a row I have been paying out amounts like 15, 17, 23 for each of them to have thoughtful presents.

The celebrations are not equal either. For Friend A's birthday in 2019, as well as all the presents totalling 70 pounds, we went to a really posh cocktail bar, then an escape room and then back to the flat for takeaway. All had to be paid for by ourselves and I wasn't even asked about the escape room. The three of them agreed on it between them and I just got a message from Friend B saying 'I paid for your escape room ticket so you owe me 16 pounds'. I couldn't actually afford it at the time but couldn't really decline in that situation. I've always been of the opinion that if you want to do something for your birthday that your guests are expected to pay for, you need to check with them first before going ahead and booking it and then demanding money.

My partner, mother and other friends have said I need to tell this group of friends that I no longer want to join in with the group birthday presents. They think I'm being taken advantage of. I've been trying to work out for a while now what's happening - whether it's a conscious, deliberate thing to spend less on me or whether it's simply a case of not knowing what to get me and just going with the cheap/easy options. Even then, if it were me I would be saying 'ok so we have no idea what she really wants but she has paid a lot towards all of our expensive presents so let's get her the BEST chocolates and the BEST gin we possibly can, and throw in some perfume and smellies to make it up to the amount that we always have spent on us'.

My partner and others think I should just end this friendship. But I'm torn. I don't know whether I'm just being vain. So...I need other opinions. AIBU to be upset about the gift situation and if my gift for this year isn't decent, tell them I'm opting out of the group present buying?

OP posts:
WorkHardPlayHard1 · 24/06/2021 19:04

@AMidsummerNight

Quaggars - my point was that they insisted on getting expensive present for Friend A even though I had said I couldn't afford it, but when it comes to mine they seemingly don't have the money available to spend.

Pixxie7 - no this is the first time I've posted about them. It's good to know someone put there clearly had a similar problem though...!

Can't remember who it was but someone asked whether I was the only winter birthday. No. One of the other girls is in December. Very close to xmas. And consistently has more spent on her than me and more thoughtful/personal presents.

I am starting to think that there are underlying issues in the friendship. I don't feel included, feel very much the outsider and maybe the presents are just a representation of that...maybe they are going to get each other better presents if they feel closer to each other and I need to accept that. I still don't think it's fair that I pay towards them though.

We do similar but each person hands £20 in so someone gets £100 spent on them every year and whoever has an idea chips in then one or two people get the pressies in turns so we all shop, pick and pay. Why not agree a budget then stick to that for all. Then its fair xx
QueenBee52 · 24/06/2021 19:05

@Insertcreativenamehere

Honestly you sound like hard work. Perhaps they’re just not that into you.

so rude

browneyes77 · 24/06/2021 19:08

OP, for the record I get where you’re coming from.

It’s isn’t just about the money spent, it’s about the lack of thought put into gifts and the general vibe being given off, that is making you feel like an outsider in the group. The present thing is really what’s brought it more to light for you.

Ignore the dickish responses on here. Unfortunately AIBU is always full of obnoxious folk, who just enjoy tearing people down and have little interest in genuinely trying to understand the issue at hand.

MyrrAgain · 24/06/2021 19:11

@peachescariad

Read most of the comments, pathetic playground response. No, I don't need "friends" like this. Nor do I want them. Nor do I want to write essays on MN about how someone spent 20p more on some present for someone else. Or whatever the point is

Marriedatfirstyear · 24/06/2021 19:13

I feel for you OP. It's unfortune you call them your closest friends as the friendship is clearly not equal. Friends come and go and if they were true friends, they would be more considerate and thoughtful.
Don't take it personally as they've known each other longer. Back away slowly and hopefully you'll find new friends. flowers

browneyes77 · 24/06/2021 19:16

[quote MyrrAgain]@peachescariad

Read most of the comments, pathetic playground response. No, I don't need "friends" like this. Nor do I want them. Nor do I want to write essays on MN about how someone spent 20p more on some present for someone else. Or whatever the point is[/quote]
Why even bother commenting in the first place then?

Just get off the thread and go about your business

BobbidyBob · 24/06/2021 19:17

My god, you sound like really hard work. I can’t imagine googling the value of gifts or keeping score of what you’ve spent on whom. Your messages are SO LONG with such a lot of unnecessary detail - perhaps this is why you don’t get replies in the group WhatsApp? I think you probably need to move on from this group; it’ll be best for everyone.

MagicSummer · 24/06/2021 19:18

Does anyone even care about birthday presents after about age 12?

MyrrAgain · 24/06/2021 19:19

@browneyes77

Ummm Yeah. Why don't you read the message above. Just for example.

MyrrAgain · 24/06/2021 19:20

And the one above that Smile

Cevs · 24/06/2021 19:20

If it matters this much to u, why don’t u suggest that for everyone’s birthday u all put in £?? If it’s £15 or whatever, at least everyone gets treated the same.
U could say it’s so that you’re able to budget a bit more as u keep saying that things are financially tight.

VerticalHorizon · 24/06/2021 19:24

Buy the presents you want for yourself - send them an invoice. Problem solved.

QueenBee52 · 24/06/2021 19:25

I think the 'Group' OP refers too have found the Thread.. Hmm

Elisandra · 24/06/2021 19:32

@QueenBee52

I think the 'Group' OP refers too have found the Thread.. Hmm
Looks like it... Jesus! 😬
VerticalHorizon · 24/06/2021 19:34

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving

Frankola · 24/06/2021 19:35

I dont think the presents thing is actually the issue bothering you. I think what is actually bothering you is that you're the newbie of the group and as such you're looking for ways that you're being treated differently.

The idea that you have googled the costs of gifts and compared amounts in detail over 3 years is not healthy for you. Your insecurity about your position in the group is impacting on your mental health.

In the gentlest way possible, here's my perception.
These people have been friends longer than they've been friends with you. They'll have more shared experiences, more understanding of each other and bigger emotional bonds.

I dont think you will ever reach the status of getting the safe amount as they spend on each other. But in totally honesty, why should you? I wouldnt spend the same on a newer friend as I would on my longest friend or closest friend...

If you are happy to accept this then I cant see why you should end the friendship? I think accepting this is a big part of feeling better about the friendship too.

If you don't want to pay as much for the gifts then take that decision into your hands and when a birthday is coming up set a budget you're happy to spend. Send a message saying "I know X birthday is coming up but I call only afford 10 pounds this year". If they want to buy a more expensive gift they can spread the extra cost between them.

Blackcat333 · 24/06/2021 19:40

@WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia

Biscuit
What's that? 🤣 Plus, what the hell is an escape room?
drpet49 · 24/06/2021 19:40

** However, they don't really see you as part of their group. You're a bit of a tagger on, as you admit yourself. You met through work and they were all flatmates and you hung out at their flat and joined in.

But you've moved elsewhere, don't work with them and you are no longer really a work colleague or friend, it sounds like. I suspect they have been too polite to tell you they aren't really that close to you.**

^This. Maybe take the hint OP? Doesn’t sound like you have anything in common with them.

Santina · 24/06/2021 19:41

I'm in a group of 5 friends, we all put in £20 for each birthday. You get something nice, usually a bottle of something and usually something inappropriate or rude. I've never looked at what anyone else has had and thought I don't get great presents, probably because we all put in the same amount of money.

Maybe you could suggest setting an amount and state that you pay more for some and not others to take the focus away from you.

Wotrewelookinat · 24/06/2021 19:42

Gosh your post is hard work….had to skip to the end. My summary is….are they really your friends?

ElderMillennial · 24/06/2021 19:45

I don't agree with those saying OP should suggest they all put in a set amount for collections. The group seem to be happy with how they are doing things, other than OP that is, and so I am not sure why they would change this just because OP suggests it. It's quite clear what OP actually wants is for more to be spent on her or less to be spent on the others so she is the only one likely to benefit from this change.

Talk2thehand · 24/06/2021 19:45

I've been in similar situations where I've worried that I was the outsider and it caused me loads of stress until I made a decision to accept the friendship for what it was and focus on other friends as well as myself so I didn't feel so reliant on them. Now I have fun when I see them and I'm really glad I never confronted them about all my grievances!

Surely the worst outcome will be for one of them to read your MN post... With the amount of detail you included it won't be hard to identify you. That will make you look terrible. I think the best advice would be to delete your post and take a step back from worrying about this. Good luck x

ElderMillennial · 24/06/2021 19:49

I was just thinking that there are so many threads on here about not having close friends or friends not being as invested as you or your closest friends having closer friends eg my closest friends have friends that they are closer to than they are to me. I think this is more of your issue.

midsomermurderess · 24/06/2021 19:49

There have been Booker winners shorter that that first post.

midsomermurderess · 24/06/2021 19:53

And then there's the rest.