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To be upset about crap birthday gifts from friends?

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AMidsummerNight · 22/06/2021 22:49

Short version: I am in a tight group of four friends and we do joint presents. Mine always cost less and are crappy whereas theirs are always really good, and I have to pay for them.

For Context:
We have been friends as a group of four, for 3 years. We met through work. They were all friends with each other before I joined the group, they lived together in a flat for a year before I got close with them. I spent a lot of time at their flat for girls nights and we also had a lot of nights out together. Friend C has now moved out of the flat and has her own place in another part of the UK. I am now living elsewhere so there's just Friend A and B still in the flat together. We don't meet up as a group very often anymore. They are my closest friends, but it can't be denied that they are closer to each other than they are with me (probably because they knew each other before and have lived with each other/are still living with each other)

For our birthdays we do group presents - so the other three all chip in for the fourth person's present. There is always a group chat created to discuss what present we are getting and how much we each need to pay towards it. I have a lot less money than all three of them but always pay whatever is needed, even if it's difficult. Every year I am part of three group 'birthday' chats on FB to discuss what we are buying for the 'birthday girl'. I never usually get a say in what is bought because the other two always come in with ideas from the start, based on what they know the person will want because of what they have said they want, or seem to need. I always feel a bit left out and useless because I don't live with them/haven't known them as long and so don't know what they have said/hinted at. This means that I just have to say 'yes that sounds good' and then pay whatever my share of the price works out to be.

I have noticed that each year I am always the one who has the least spent on me. I know this from googling what my gift cost, or just knowing the price. Due to Covid preventing us all from meeting up and all living in different parts of the country, I haven't yet had my birthday present from last November. The plan is to all meet up next month for a group birthday celebration and exchanging of presents that three of us haven't yet had. So I don't yet know what my present for this year is, but the last two years my gifts from all three of them were:

Year one: A bottle of pink gin, a bottle of (cheap) wine, box of Ferrero Rocher and a mini bag of Thornton's chocolates. Can't have been more than about 30 pounds. Meaning about 10 pounds each.
Year two: A small bottle of organic gin liquor and a few packs of socks from Primark...I googled the exact gin and found that it was 10 pounds. The packs of socks can't have been more than 20 pounds altogether. So that's 30, again about 10 pounds each (and that's being generous because the socks might not have been that much.)

As I said, I still don't know what my gift from last year is and will find out next month. Because their birthdays all fall earlier in the year than mine, I have now paid towards presents for all three of them, for three years. All of them have worked out as a minimum of 15 pounds per person, sometimes a lot more. In 2019 the long list of presents for friend A came to around 70 pounds, which I think was about 23 pounds per person. She got really expensive Ciroc vodka, perfume, jewellery etc...this year she is getting new trainers, an ear ring hanger and a personalised mug. Last year she got a Onesie that cost 70 pounds. Friend B has had coffee from Whittards 'because she loves it', books that she likes, clothes, perfume....Friend C has had a really expensive, fancy bra and a canvas painting of her favourite piece of artwork. Friend A in 2019 was the most expensive and I don't think it was fair to any of the other three of us because none of us have ever had 70 pounds worth of presents. But all of their presents have always been 15, 16, 17, or even 23 pounds each. While my two cannot have been more than 10 each, if not less than that.

It's not just about the money. It's that my presents have always been the generic alcohol and chocolates, whereas theirs have always been more thought out items that they know the person wants. I know that the three of them have known each other longer and are therefore closer/perhaps know more what they want/more inclined to spend money on each other, but I do talk to all of them every day, we have a group chat...and I have mentioned authors that I love and things I would love to buy but can't afford (which is usually how they decide on presents for each other). They know that I love books by Sophie Kinsella and that there a few new ones out that I don't yet have, they know that I want the full set of The Lord of The Rings and Harry Potter, they know that I love candles and have wanted a nail set for ages but would never justify buying it for myself. Yet all I've had is alcohol and chocolates that cannot have come to more than 10 pounds per person. And three years in a row I have been paying out amounts like 15, 17, 23 for each of them to have thoughtful presents.

The celebrations are not equal either. For Friend A's birthday in 2019, as well as all the presents totalling 70 pounds, we went to a really posh cocktail bar, then an escape room and then back to the flat for takeaway. All had to be paid for by ourselves and I wasn't even asked about the escape room. The three of them agreed on it between them and I just got a message from Friend B saying 'I paid for your escape room ticket so you owe me 16 pounds'. I couldn't actually afford it at the time but couldn't really decline in that situation. I've always been of the opinion that if you want to do something for your birthday that your guests are expected to pay for, you need to check with them first before going ahead and booking it and then demanding money.

My partner, mother and other friends have said I need to tell this group of friends that I no longer want to join in with the group birthday presents. They think I'm being taken advantage of. I've been trying to work out for a while now what's happening - whether it's a conscious, deliberate thing to spend less on me or whether it's simply a case of not knowing what to get me and just going with the cheap/easy options. Even then, if it were me I would be saying 'ok so we have no idea what she really wants but she has paid a lot towards all of our expensive presents so let's get her the BEST chocolates and the BEST gin we possibly can, and throw in some perfume and smellies to make it up to the amount that we always have spent on us'.

My partner and others think I should just end this friendship. But I'm torn. I don't know whether I'm just being vain. So...I need other opinions. AIBU to be upset about the gift situation and if my gift for this year isn't decent, tell them I'm opting out of the group present buying?

OP posts:
1forAll74 · 24/06/2021 04:41

Good grief, I would not like to be in some group thing like this. Buying presents,and having to check the costs of all items etc. I am not in any groups at all, but if I was, I would think that meeting up for drinks,or a meal,would suffice for birthdays etc.

GrettaGreen · 24/06/2021 05:13

It sounds like there's some underlying tension between you and A. Whether purposeful or not, you're clearly getting into a battle in your head against her about who's most important in the group. Trying to scheme underhandedly so that she'll have a shitter gift isn't on. Just opt out if you don't want to spend it. It comes across like you're trying to manoeuvre things against A and that no one notices but I guarantee they do and as she's the original friend, you'll not win if you try to oust her.

Icanhearyoubutiwont · 24/06/2021 08:01

How old are you all OP?

TopBlogger · 24/06/2021 09:39

@Icanhearyoubutiwont

How old are you all OP?
SHE IS 26 AS SHE HAS SAID!!!!

I know people are asking to make A POINT, but seriously.....just say it rather than asking this continuously

toffeebutterpopcorn · 24/06/2021 09:43

Well... I once unwrapped a pair of size 16 knickers. It was one of a multipack (said on the label) and I was a size 8 back then. Not even a joke gift!

AMidsummerNight · 24/06/2021 11:45

@Skysblue for the £70 gift the other two had a ready made list of things. Friend B created a group chat specifically for the present discussion and immediately came on saying 'so me and Friend C were thinking XYZ....and the list was already so long and expensive of course I didn't want to add to it, even if I could have thought of anything! That generally is the way it goes, with Friend B always having a list ready to go and Friend C sometimes adding. When it's Friend B's birthday, Friend A is usually the one with ideas upfront. This year I did suggest a pasta maker for Friend B because she had been sending me pics of the homemade pasta she had done and seemed to be getting into it. I was told that 'she's probably good enough at making pasta for herself without needing a pasta maker'. I then suggested a vegetable shredder that makes things like carrots and cucumber into lovely swirly shapes, but the response was 'she won't bother with that'. If there's ever a discussion about what colour to get something in or what shape/style, my opinion is always different to the other two. It's not like I haven't tried to join in and suggest things, it's just that my suggestions are never popular.

I also keep getting the sense that the three of them, or two of them when it comes to birthdays, have talked together and agreed on something before putting it in the group chat. Friend B's birthday was in January this year. We had said that we would try get together and celebrate her birthday and mine and Friend C's all together, because Friend C and me missed out on a joint celebration and presents due to lockdown. As lockdown got reinstated in Jan we had to postpone that idea until this summer. When it came to Friend B's birthday chat, Friend A posed the question 'so should we wait to give Friend B her present in summer when we can all be together or should I give it to her cos I'm in the flat and we'll do a video call?' I said 'wait till we're all together in summer.' (I was having a hard time that week and really didn't feel up to a video call) Friend C then replied 'yeah but remember when you and I had birthdays away from the group we were at least around family and partners. Friend B is just stuck in a flat with Friend A and will have no presents on the actual day if we don't give ours to her.' Friend A instantly gave it a thumbs up and said 'yeah definitely'. I felt that I just had to go along with it, like I do with everything, and definitely suspected that Friend A and C had already talked and agreed that giving the present now and a video call was the best way to go, then just had to get me on board....

OP posts:
AMidsummerNight · 24/06/2021 11:55

@GrettaGreen
I was not trying to 'scheme underhandedly' to make her have a shittier present. I was just saying that the present ideas were very expensive and I was short of money and wanted to keep it to £10. It's a side issue that I was thinking in my head 'why are we spending a fortune on Friend A again when no one else in the group gets this much spent on them, especially not me because my presents have only ever been £10 or less pp?' That is not me wanting her to have a shit present, that is just me questioning the fairness of the group buying situation. Saying that I only had £10 to spend was a genuine thing, not a 'scheme' to make her suffer Hmm

What has given you the impression that I'm trying to oust her? All I said was that I was upset at how she blew up over Friend B popping into my house randomly, when her and B meet up all the time on their own. I haven't said anything else about Friend A at all.

OP posts:
Elisandra · 24/06/2021 11:57

Do you not think it’s time to step away from all this analysis and focus on something else? It hurts of course, but the situation is clearly not healthy or positive for you.

MyrrAgain · 24/06/2021 12:00

I couldn’t even be bothered to read your massive essay after the first paragraph. Surely there's nothing important to say after 2-3 more. You're obsessing about it. Put up or shut up. Nice you have such a good set up with friends who honour birthdays

QueenBee52 · 24/06/2021 12:15

@MyrrAgain

I couldn’t even be bothered to read your massive essay after the first paragraph. Surely there's nothing important to say after 2-3 more. You're obsessing about it. Put up or shut up. Nice you have such a good set up with friends who honour birthdays

charming...

MondayYogurt · 24/06/2021 12:22

Without getting too deep about it Friend A is the alpha of the group. And you are at the bottom.

Best presents, domineering, demanding apologies...there's no point feeling hard done by because you will never be able to change the established group dynamic.

It's time to step away, the group will naturally fall apart over time anyway as the second to bottom falls into your vacated spot.

aSofaNearYou · 24/06/2021 12:35

If I had to hazard a guess, I would say it's quite likely that they put less effort into yours because your birthday is in November, close to Christmas.

I'm a bit on the fence with this one. On the one hand I do think you are being a bit overly focused on minor price differences - there isn't a big difference between £10 each and £15 each, but on the other hand they sound a bit intense and demanding about money/friendship commitments. I get the impression there could be a bit of a "mean girl group" vibe going on, and if that's the case then I don't think YWBU to step away from them if they make you feel bad.

peachescariad · 24/06/2021 12:37

@MyrrAgain

I couldn’t even be bothered to read your massive essay after the first paragraph. Surely there's nothing important to say after 2-3 more. You're obsessing about it. Put up or shut up. Nice you have such a good set up with friends who honour birthdays
...yeah I guess you don't have any...I can see why
freespirit11 · 24/06/2021 13:14

When it came to Friend B's birthday chat, Friend A posed the question 'so should we wait to give Friend B her present in summer when we can all be together or should I give it to her cos I'm in the flat and we'll do a video call?' I said 'wait till we're all together in summer.' (I was having a hard time that week and really didn't feel up to a video call) Friend C then replied 'yeah but remember when you and I had birthdays away from the group we were at least around family and partners. Friend B is just stuck in a flat with Friend A and will have no presents on the actual day if we don't give ours to her.' Friend A instantly gave it a thumbs up and said 'yeah definitely'. I felt that I just had to go along with it, like I do with everything, and definitely suspected that Friend A and C had already talked and agreed that giving the present now and a video call was the best way to go, then just had to get me on board....

Friend A and C were perfectly reasonable here, I can see why they came to an agreement quickly; they are right - Friend B was alone at home with Friend A. If the gift is there, why not gift it then?! It's quite ridiculous to not, just because the other two birthday gifts had to wait due to logistical issues. It doesn't sound like they pre-decided, it just sounds sensible.

ElderMillennial · 24/06/2021 13:19

I agree with PP that the group dynamic is what it is. It's possible for dynamics to change, as another PP said, eg I am part of a group of three and I became closer to one of them as we were both pregnant with our first babies at the same time. Sometimes circumstances can bring you closer to certain people. But aside from that I think you need to accept where you are in the group and that this is how it is. They will probably continue to spend more on friend A and less on you. You can opt out of the gift arrangements and the friendship overall if you wish but I don't think it's helpful to obsess over the little things.

meerkatmammy · 24/06/2021 13:31

I'm in a group of 4 and we also club together to buy each other gifts for birthdays. However we all pay £10 each and always find something (or sometimes multiple gifts) for £30 for the birthday girl. Always worked for us, and everyone puts in their ideas and we decide as a group what to go for

QueenBee52 · 24/06/2021 14:27

but I don't think it's helpful to obsess over the little things.

Unless of course you're the one left with the crap gifts every time 🤔

ElderMillennial · 24/06/2021 15:09

@QueenBee52

but I don't think it's helpful to obsess over the little things.

Unless of course you're the one left with the crap gifts every time 🤔

But she's most likely going to be the one with the crap gift every time unless she does something differently
QueenBee52 · 24/06/2021 16:19

But she's most likely going to be the one with the crap gift every time unless she does something differently

exactly 🌸

Diverami · 24/06/2021 17:25

If yours is the fourth birthday in the year, it is a good time to opt out without seeming to want to be mean. There must be a reasonable reason ie I am cutting down on present giving this year with my family and friends because xyz.

LoverOfAllThingsPurple · 24/06/2021 17:28

I’m with you OP and your boyfriend and family are right. I would either try discussing this with those friends or end the friendship. Best of luck x

riceuten · 24/06/2021 17:37

I have real concerns if you're googling and comparing the price presents. What next, the quality and size of birthday cards?

Debbacat6 · 24/06/2021 17:43

Friends are not about what you get for your birthday
They are about what you do for each other, be there for each other
Any fool can find someone to have cocktails with but a friend will bring you food when you're ill..look after your baby while you rest, lend you their car when yours is in the garage, listen to your heartbreak at 3am on the phone.

I got exhausted reading your woes.
I wonder what you do for then or for each other ..other than count up how much has been spent on you?

LoobyLoo515 · 24/06/2021 17:49

I can't believe you're posting about this. Don't you have other less petty stuff to worry about to have to write such LONG posts? Just tell them you'll buy presents yourself from now on. End of.

IsobelElsie123 · 24/06/2021 17:50

Why don’t you agree between yourselves the price you will all contribute for the next year (eg £15 per birthday) explain it away by saying at the moment that’s all you can afford.