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To be upset about crap birthday gifts from friends?

333 replies

AMidsummerNight · 22/06/2021 22:49

Short version: I am in a tight group of four friends and we do joint presents. Mine always cost less and are crappy whereas theirs are always really good, and I have to pay for them.

For Context:
We have been friends as a group of four, for 3 years. We met through work. They were all friends with each other before I joined the group, they lived together in a flat for a year before I got close with them. I spent a lot of time at their flat for girls nights and we also had a lot of nights out together. Friend C has now moved out of the flat and has her own place in another part of the UK. I am now living elsewhere so there's just Friend A and B still in the flat together. We don't meet up as a group very often anymore. They are my closest friends, but it can't be denied that they are closer to each other than they are with me (probably because they knew each other before and have lived with each other/are still living with each other)

For our birthdays we do group presents - so the other three all chip in for the fourth person's present. There is always a group chat created to discuss what present we are getting and how much we each need to pay towards it. I have a lot less money than all three of them but always pay whatever is needed, even if it's difficult. Every year I am part of three group 'birthday' chats on FB to discuss what we are buying for the 'birthday girl'. I never usually get a say in what is bought because the other two always come in with ideas from the start, based on what they know the person will want because of what they have said they want, or seem to need. I always feel a bit left out and useless because I don't live with them/haven't known them as long and so don't know what they have said/hinted at. This means that I just have to say 'yes that sounds good' and then pay whatever my share of the price works out to be.

I have noticed that each year I am always the one who has the least spent on me. I know this from googling what my gift cost, or just knowing the price. Due to Covid preventing us all from meeting up and all living in different parts of the country, I haven't yet had my birthday present from last November. The plan is to all meet up next month for a group birthday celebration and exchanging of presents that three of us haven't yet had. So I don't yet know what my present for this year is, but the last two years my gifts from all three of them were:

Year one: A bottle of pink gin, a bottle of (cheap) wine, box of Ferrero Rocher and a mini bag of Thornton's chocolates. Can't have been more than about 30 pounds. Meaning about 10 pounds each.
Year two: A small bottle of organic gin liquor and a few packs of socks from Primark...I googled the exact gin and found that it was 10 pounds. The packs of socks can't have been more than 20 pounds altogether. So that's 30, again about 10 pounds each (and that's being generous because the socks might not have been that much.)

As I said, I still don't know what my gift from last year is and will find out next month. Because their birthdays all fall earlier in the year than mine, I have now paid towards presents for all three of them, for three years. All of them have worked out as a minimum of 15 pounds per person, sometimes a lot more. In 2019 the long list of presents for friend A came to around 70 pounds, which I think was about 23 pounds per person. She got really expensive Ciroc vodka, perfume, jewellery etc...this year she is getting new trainers, an ear ring hanger and a personalised mug. Last year she got a Onesie that cost 70 pounds. Friend B has had coffee from Whittards 'because she loves it', books that she likes, clothes, perfume....Friend C has had a really expensive, fancy bra and a canvas painting of her favourite piece of artwork. Friend A in 2019 was the most expensive and I don't think it was fair to any of the other three of us because none of us have ever had 70 pounds worth of presents. But all of their presents have always been 15, 16, 17, or even 23 pounds each. While my two cannot have been more than 10 each, if not less than that.

It's not just about the money. It's that my presents have always been the generic alcohol and chocolates, whereas theirs have always been more thought out items that they know the person wants. I know that the three of them have known each other longer and are therefore closer/perhaps know more what they want/more inclined to spend money on each other, but I do talk to all of them every day, we have a group chat...and I have mentioned authors that I love and things I would love to buy but can't afford (which is usually how they decide on presents for each other). They know that I love books by Sophie Kinsella and that there a few new ones out that I don't yet have, they know that I want the full set of The Lord of The Rings and Harry Potter, they know that I love candles and have wanted a nail set for ages but would never justify buying it for myself. Yet all I've had is alcohol and chocolates that cannot have come to more than 10 pounds per person. And three years in a row I have been paying out amounts like 15, 17, 23 for each of them to have thoughtful presents.

The celebrations are not equal either. For Friend A's birthday in 2019, as well as all the presents totalling 70 pounds, we went to a really posh cocktail bar, then an escape room and then back to the flat for takeaway. All had to be paid for by ourselves and I wasn't even asked about the escape room. The three of them agreed on it between them and I just got a message from Friend B saying 'I paid for your escape room ticket so you owe me 16 pounds'. I couldn't actually afford it at the time but couldn't really decline in that situation. I've always been of the opinion that if you want to do something for your birthday that your guests are expected to pay for, you need to check with them first before going ahead and booking it and then demanding money.

My partner, mother and other friends have said I need to tell this group of friends that I no longer want to join in with the group birthday presents. They think I'm being taken advantage of. I've been trying to work out for a while now what's happening - whether it's a conscious, deliberate thing to spend less on me or whether it's simply a case of not knowing what to get me and just going with the cheap/easy options. Even then, if it were me I would be saying 'ok so we have no idea what she really wants but she has paid a lot towards all of our expensive presents so let's get her the BEST chocolates and the BEST gin we possibly can, and throw in some perfume and smellies to make it up to the amount that we always have spent on us'.

My partner and others think I should just end this friendship. But I'm torn. I don't know whether I'm just being vain. So...I need other opinions. AIBU to be upset about the gift situation and if my gift for this year isn't decent, tell them I'm opting out of the group present buying?

OP posts:
drpet49 · 24/06/2021 17:51

As a group present, alcohol and chocolates every year is just shit, thoughtless and boring.

Debbacat6 · 24/06/2021 17:52

Well
I won't justify but I will tell you what I think.
I think you know this at heart, anyway.

As a collective, they just don't like you as much as they like each other.
So if they even see a disparity it isn't bothering them as making you happy isn't on their radar
They do the token gesture but don't go the extra mile ...thoughtfulness wise or money wise.
So you have a clear choice
Hang about whining that the scraps you get are 'not fair"..or keep your money..and your Dignity and find yourself some new friends where you will be valued.

lioncitygirl · 24/06/2021 17:57

Overall - I think they don’t like you very much but don’t know how to tell you. Sorry.

Debbacat6 · 24/06/2021 17:58

And.
'Friend A, B, C ' etc...makes your account read like a Spy novel
I don't think you have three friends here..you are looking at them as three providers of treats to the value of your own outlay.
It's really tacky.
Maybe that's what they sense in you..that you are hung up on goodies and costs
That's not an attractive trait likely to endear others to you.
It's called an Ulterior Transaction.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 24/06/2021 18:02

Stop expecting anything from these friends, but stop throwing fivers at them too (Father Ted Mrs Doyle reference)

This is clearly really getting to you and you resent it. Fair enough.
Your partner and family say get out of this arrangement.
It does sound very unequal and you've assembled a lot of detailed evidence to prove it.
Is this because you feel you need to defend your opinion all the time and now you feel like you have just had enough? It seems like you may be one of those who feel the need to apologise to others, or explain yourself so fully in case they don't believe or dismiss you, particularly to people like Friend A,.
If that's the case then is it just your birthday friends group who are making you feel like this or is it other people around you,? because if it is you should really look into getting some help with being more assertive as its clearly not doing you any good and you are upsetting yourself everytime you think about it.

You need to let all the detailed weights and measures thing go.
It boils down to one thing - you feel you are in an unequal friendship group.
A text saying "I can no longer afford to contribute to the birthday club and must drop out. I am happy to send everyone a card and continue to meet up with you all. I hope you understand." is all that is needed and you can stop stressing yourself out with these mammoth accountings.

And that's it. see what happens. If they do suggest meeting up, ask what the plan is and how much it will cost and decide if you want to do it. You are allowed to say I can't afford it at the moment. If it really is a friendship, you will still see them but without all the added stress. If not at least you will be out of a group that is upsetting you.
Also.
Your list could have been compressed so so much. You can write it in a letter to yourself if you like but it must be wearing your nearest and dearest down. I don't mean that horribly, just that it would help them to listen to you more attentively if you were more concise. (I know I've just written a long post, soz)

Jenasaurus · 24/06/2021 18:04

I do understand how you feel about this, maybe suggest chocolates and socks for one of the others birthdays and see how they react, as one of them must have suggested these items for your birthday.

Its not the cost, I expect if they had made you something that cost very little but put in the thought behind it, you would be happier.

Sudoku88 · 24/06/2021 18:06

@Summersun2020

I really expected to take your side here to be honest, but you’re coming across as so petty. I expected a huge difference financially but the difference between 10 or 15 pounds is neither here nor there. They’re not leaving you out as you get a gift every year. I think you feel like the odd one out in this group so are projecting your feelings to the gift situation.
I don’t think you’re being petty at all. It’s not about the money, it’s the fact they don’t seem to value you as much as they value each other.

I too would be very upset, it’s like you’re second best, not worth the effort and being treated like that can really undermine your sense of self esteem. I think your family are right. You should pull away from this friendship (as hard as it may seem right now)

Coldwine75 · 24/06/2021 18:08

I couldnt get past the title, i am grateful for any gift I get, how rude !

MadMadMadamMim · 24/06/2021 18:10

It all sounds a bit petty - I cannot believe you've googled the cost of present and are pissed off that they chipped in a tenner for you, whereas you've paid £15 for them.

However, they don't really see you as part of their group. You're a bit of a tagger on, as you admit yourself. You met through work and they were all flatmates and you hung out at their flat and joined in.

But you've moved elsewhere, don't work with them and you are no longer really a work colleague or friend, it sounds like. I suspect they have been too polite to tell you they aren't really that close to you.

tigerlilly22 · 24/06/2021 18:13

Stopped reading half way and voted YANBU because you can't help the way you feel... but chill out !! I think you are just overthinking it all tbh.

Leontine · 24/06/2021 18:23

The money wouldn’t bother me as there’s not really that much difference, but what jumped out at me, which you later mentioned was that your gifts seem generic with not much thought put into them compared to the others.

Duchess379 · 24/06/2021 18:26

I'd be chuffed to bits if I was bought gin for birthdays tbh. I couldn't care about the cost, it's the thought that counts. Unless you don't drink gin.. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Whitchurch · 24/06/2021 18:36

It's the thought that counts... exactly the point of Op's post. She's noticed that less money and less thought goes into her presents. I think she's perfectly entitled to feel a bit hurt after noticing this over a period of time.
I don't even believe the people saying it wouldn't bother them and she should be grateful.

VerticalHorizon · 24/06/2021 18:37

Get a grip

Harmonypuss · 24/06/2021 18:43

To all the people saying the difference between £10 and £15 is nothing, it may not be to those of you who have loads of free cash but to someone who has to be careful with their funds it can be a big thing.
Also, (I don't really want to be giving everyone a maths lesson but...) when 3 people are donating £10 each it's a total of £30, 3 donations of £15 gives a gift value of £45 and £23 individual donations £69 gift.
I think I'd be slightly fed up if I kept getting the £30 gift whilst paying 1/3 of the cost of 3 £45 (or more) gifts, technically this works out as paying anywhere between £45 and £69 for my own £30 gift.
If I were in the OP's situation I'd be saying that this gift giving needs to change, either there's a standard amount everyone pays towards each and every gift, say £10 or £15, or it stops altogether and we buy individual gifts valued at the same £10 or £15, otherwise I would be dropping out.
I wouldn't stand for being walked all over by these women, the fact they've known each other longer only says to me that maybe you should be buying individual gifts, make it clear how much you'll be spending then if they want to buy more expensive gifts for each other they can but not expect you to pay more than you've said you'll be spending.

Harmonypuss · 24/06/2021 18:44

Oh, also, is be telling them I'm sick of generic gin, socks and chocolate and would like a little more thought put into my gifts in future!

HeckyPeck · 24/06/2021 18:48

@Jenasaurus

I do understand how you feel about this, maybe suggest chocolates and socks for one of the others birthdays and see how they react, as one of them must have suggested these items for your birthday.

Its not the cost, I expect if they had made you something that cost very little but put in the thought behind it, you would be happier.

I think I would be very telling to see what they said if you suggested that!
browneyes77 · 24/06/2021 18:50

@MondayYogurt

Without getting too deep about it Friend A is the alpha of the group. And you are at the bottom.

Best presents, domineering, demanding apologies...there's no point feeling hard done by because you will never be able to change the established group dynamic.

It's time to step away, the group will naturally fall apart over time anyway as the second to bottom falls into your vacated spot.

My thoughts entirely.

She kicked off at you and Friend B for not inviting her, because she was jealous. Simple as that. She clearly sees Friend B as her closest friend and didn’t like her spending her time with someone else.

I had a best friend like this. Demanding, domineering, possessive, rude. She’s an ex best friend now.

Bleachmycloths · 24/06/2021 18:50

You feel pushed out and not on an equal footing. I get that. And I don’t agree with people who say YABU. Sounds like you could be a bit of an outsider in this group 😢
You are not imagining this. Generic, thoughtless gifts are upsetting.
Make a list of possible choices and choose the one(s) you can Iive with. Eg: 1) dump them 2) put up and shut up 3) focus on other friends 4) actually TELL them what you’d like for your next birthday 5) gradually drop them
Have you got other friendship groups? Maybe you could move towards them?
I feel for you. All sounds a bit shitty for you.

Tyrasanchez30 · 24/06/2021 18:52

The replies are just bizarre and clearly from people with a lot of disposable income, clearly £5 difference for several presents each time will add up to a lot.

pilates · 24/06/2021 18:55

Opt out it’s not making you happy is it?
Sorry but you are coming across petty and immature.

browneyes77 · 24/06/2021 18:57

@Jenasaurus

I do understand how you feel about this, maybe suggest chocolates and socks for one of the others birthdays and see how they react, as one of them must have suggested these items for your birthday.

Its not the cost, I expect if they had made you something that cost very little but put in the thought behind it, you would be happier.

Ooh I like this suggestion. I also think their responses would be very telling!
VerticalHorizon · 24/06/2021 18:57

Other than as a child, I've never given a toss what presents I do or do not receive, and I've never judged friendship in that manner.

I don't expect a thing off friends (or family). It's just not important.

mumof2exhausted · 24/06/2021 18:58

These women do not consider you to be as close a friend as you do them. Wonder how old you are as this is pretty childish.

Insertcreativenamehere · 24/06/2021 19:02

Honestly you sound like hard work. Perhaps they’re just not that into you.