Will you get your kids to sing this on June 25th?

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NEW: The government is urging children to sing this song on June 25

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"We are Britain and we have one dream.
Strong Britain great nation"

Am I wrong, or is this really cringey?

This is an intriguing viewpoint. Could you perhaps elaborate on your alternative home British environment? We may be missing out on your ideas and practices as it is good to share opinions and debate a more mutually acceptable and preferable way forward. As per my earlier up thread comments - I am minded to support the thrust of this initiative ie an uniting national song BUT believe this proposition falls well well short of expectations as a fresh blank canvas approach would be better suited for the purposes as I hinted to previously in this thread. I believe this “project” has potential if done right and brings people together to put our Brexit British values, culture and ideals on the global map.

Brexit British values? Please tell me this is sarcasm so subtle it just went (almost) totally over my head.

Please.

So it's Britian now - the United Kingdom excluding Northern Ireland (as opposed to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) - who's going to be brave enough to tell the Orangemen?

I’ve literally not heard anything about this and neither have my children (maybe we live in a strange bubble). But if we had heard they would laugh hysterically at the idea.

@user1471505494

Why are other countries allowed to be proud of their country and culture and sing patriotic songs and British people are ridiculed and condemned for doing the same

Have you listened to it? It’s bloody awful.

@ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia

The song is not particularly well written musicality. But anything that unites and bring people together is better than anything that divides. We have enough diversity already so although the song is not that great the concept is to put the great back into Great Britain! Could do and deserve better though!

Well, we’re all definitely united in our agreement that the song is laughably crap.

@Notthemessiah

This is an intriguing viewpoint. Could you perhaps elaborate on your alternative home British environment? We may be missing out on your ideas and practices as it is good to share opinions and debate a more mutually acceptable and preferable way forward. As per my earlier up thread comments - I am minded to support the thrust of this initiative ie an uniting national song BUT believe this proposition falls well well short of expectations as a fresh blank canvas approach would be better suited for the purposes as I hinted to previously in this thread. I believe this “project” has potential if done right and brings people together to put our Brexit British values, culture and ideals on the global map.

Brexit British values? Please tell me this is sarcasm so subtle it just went (almost) totally over my head.

Please.

British values, cultures and ideals? What, like bring back the Empire ?

@newnortherner111

Incidentally Great Britain does not include Northern Ireland. I wonder how the Ulster Unionists feel about being excluded?

They should be used to it by now. Northern Ireland is Britain’s ex-wife who just can’t take the hint. IT’S OVER, LOVE.

Ah yes, those Brexit British Values. So the new song will need to include lines on the topics of:

Don't Be Foreign In My Country (Unless You're An Oligarch)

Feed Me Hormones From Oz

We'll Go No More Free Mobile Roaming

Who Needs Research Anyway

So many things to celebrate, can't wait to hear it.

I'm from the Netherlands originally and I can't imagine the Dutch government ever encouraging this

Honestly, some of these comments are a bit rich. Many nations have engaged over the history of humanity in conquests and 'empire building'. Yet, only the British seem to be fair game and deserving insults and vulgar expressions when they dare to fly a flag or outwardly express sincere pride in their nation and patriotism. Why?

I think quietly we know the "good bits" about living here (Bakewell tart being one) but overall we don't want to look like we are showing off and prefer to keep things, well, muted.

Says who? Why is it ok to tell people to shut up?

I don't see those who very vocally tweet nonsense to be very 'muted' TBH

It’s a bit cringe (we are British! We don’t sing songs like that unless there’s a war on) but I heard the ex PC on the radio and he made a good case for it (weren’t the words written by children?).

Great Britain was always Scot, England, Wales and the united kingdom was that plus ni? Wasn’t it? It was when I worked for an Irish bank.

Brexit British Values.. Yes, it probably does encourage that - jingoism, smoothing over appalling behaviours with platitudes and poor messaging, new-fascism, division, myopia, indoctrination and control of the gullible masses.

Anybody seeing a pattern forming?

toffeebutterpopcorn you are correct. The country's full name is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Great Britain comprises the nations on the mainland, and the addition of NI makes it the UK.

smoothing over appalling behaviours with platitudes and poor messaging, new-fascism, division, myopia, indoctrination and control of the gullible masses

This is what the Twitter mob do, actually

mustlovegin there is a difference between having been a colonising nation in the past - which holds true for many European countries, the Netherlands very much included - and indulging in ostentatious patriotism in the here and now. I don't doubt that many Dutch people are proud of their country. It's just that the Dutch government doesn't feel the need to encourage its schoolchildren to sing hideous patriotic ditties about One Nation (which the UK isn't) on a set day of the year.

If you can't see that difference, you are part of the problem.

Ds has been working out alternative words in case school try to make them sing it tomorrow.

you are part of the problem

This phrase has been overused, maybe it's time to coin another one?

And I don't see what makes someone's patriotism 'ostentatious' but someone else's acceptable, no

@mustlovegin

you are part of the problem

This phrase has been overused, maybe it's time to coin another one?

And I don't see what makes someone's patriotism 'ostentatious' but someone else's acceptable, no

You're quite right. It's a terrible double-standard. None of it is acceptable.

It's really very simple. Ostentatious = government announcing that schools should make their students sing nationalist songs. Not ostentatious = being proud of your country and going about your life.

The former is not acceptable. The latter is ok.

There's also a difference between patriotism and nationalism. This government is nationalist. Nationalism is never acceptable.

feel sorry for the kids singing it tbh. but then i hate choirs and group singing anyway. urgh!

Not ostentatious = being proud of your country and going about your life

So people should shut up, basically. Why?

Not at all. You can talk about it. You can post about it online. You can put flags on your house. You can play patriotic music in your garden when you have a BBQ. But you do those things as private citizens. You do not involve the state in it, because we know where that leads. That's the problem: state promoted patriotism.