Any Carers here who are not taking the vaccine?

[Maybevaccine]

It's apparently been confirmed now that it is compulsory for care home workers and other carers to take the vaccine.

I just got a job in a care home, and I've always said no to the vaccine. Mainly because of the things I've seen and read of people who've had the vaccine. Blood clots, death, rashes, and people still getting covid after taking the vaccine.

I don't know what to do now.

@Mongyxxx

My daughters a carer but we have dvt (blood clots) in our family but because my daughter hasn't had them yet our drs say she must have the jab but she's petrified she will get them so is now leaving care due to this

I am sorry your daughter is scared. The blood clots that are associated with the vaccine are not DVT. Jo Jerrome, chief executive of Thrombosis UK has advised: "Having a previous thrombosis or thrombophilia (sticky blood) is not a risk factor for developing the rare post-Covid-19 vaccine thrombosis and thrombocytopenia."

@RampantIvy

I believe in freedom of choice

I believe in freedom. Freedom from mask wearing, freedom to go to a gig, freedom to travel on public transport and not worry about the passenger sitting next to me, freedom to travel abroad, freedom to go to work and not have to socially distance from my workmates. Basically freedom from this wretched virus. The vaccine refusers will ensure that this virus will continue to mutate.

Thank you for posting those statistics @BlatantlyNameChanged. I simply don't get why people don't understand those figures. Maybe they need to retake GCSE maths.

So basically freedom to do what you want while other people do what you tell them to do. At least you’re honest about it I guess.

*working from home is the new living at work!

Honestly, if you can't work out that the vaccine is scientifically safe by now, you really shouldn't be looking after vulnerable people. Sorry, but get another job. I wouldn't feel a parent of mine was safe in your care.

@Roxy69

Honestly, if you can't work out that the vaccine is scientifically safe by now, you really shouldn't be looking after vulnerable people. Sorry, but get another job. I wouldn't feel a parent of mine was safe in your care.

good comment. i agree

Are you coming back to your thread @Maybevaccine? Or is your job done now that you have lured all the anti-vaxxers out?

There may well be a group legal action you could join.

Lol at the vaccines being “scientifically safe”. Read the latest MHRA data (which is a huge underreporting generally).

Actually laughable how many trust the government. Collateral damage is the name. That’s up to you if you want to volunteer

@Roxy69

Honestly, if you can't work out that the vaccine is scientifically safe by now, you really shouldn't be looking after vulnerable people. Sorry, but get another job. I wouldn't feel a parent of mine was safe in your care.

Maybe do it yourself if you’re that worried.

No, not that worried? Thought not.

@Roxy69

Honestly, if you can't work out that the vaccine is scientifically safe by now, you really shouldn't be looking after vulnerable people.

Please can you let me know what the long term side effects are. Any side effects that might occur in 1-10 years? What about side effects if you get pregnant? What about side effects from taking different prescription medication once the vaccine is in your system?

@wavybaby
Sorry about your relative, but you’re wrong about AZ being new technology This Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine uses the ChAdOx1 technology, which has been developed and optimised by the Jenner Institute over the last 10 years.

Pfizer is new tech and was the one people were initially worried about.

I can understand people’s fears and at the end of the day it’s their own choice. The surgery I work at has vaccinated about 5,000 patients now (mostly with AZ). None have developed blood clots.

Yes, you might consider it unfair to carers, but why are their rights greater than the rights of the people they care for? Would it be fair for an elderly patient to catch Covid from an unvaccinated carer? In one of our local care homes one carer and two residents tested positive for Covid last month. The residents were long-term and had both been vaccinated - who do you think brought it into the home?

Roonerspismed

I don’t understand the blind faith of people. Remember when cigarettes were safe and recommended for pregnant women. That wasn’t that long ago. Now something a year in the making is supposedly safe, I wonder how many years it will be until we know the truth about it?

Do the right thing for yourself, your family and your patients and residents. Please watch Horizon on BBC2 iPlayer, aired Tuesday the 16th June. I’m ambulance staff, we have lost 5 drivers last year, they didn’t have the option of the vaccine. If you want to be a good carer then take the vaccine now 💐

I had the Pfizer vaccine. No side effects whatsoever. Everyone I know who has gotten Pfizer had no side effects

Hear hear wavybaby, your so right 💐

I know myma. I feel ill thinking about it. I hope to god that Pfizer is ok longer term. I really hope to god. My worry is that the proteins aren’t eradicated and lead to Parkinsons or similar. Or if the nanoparticles do similar. Do we actually know what happens if nanoparticles are injected?

@Mymapuddlington

Basically freedom from this wretched virus

3186 years to eradicate small pox. The ONLY thing to be eradicated. Covid is around to stay no matter how many guinea pigs get jabbed.

It took over 200 years because their needed to be a worldwide vaccination programme.

Not 3186 years.

@Lucheana

I can not believe half the answers to this question, what utterly horrid people on this site... Yes op it's not your body, you don't have a right to be concerned about sticking a vaccine in your arm, your must just be like everyone else and a good little lamb and do as your told, God forbid you have a mind and opinion of your own... Some people are utterly vile... Sweet it's your body do as you wish with it...

Couldn’t have put it better myself .

I’m shocked at what this last year has done to people x

Actually I did care for both my parents. It was hard work but they were family. And yes, one did have dementia.

"Well current rates for the clotting issue are 1 in 50,000 alone and no doubts that’s an underreported figure."

No you've got the figure wrong. Updated stats from the British Heart Foundation, updated today.

"These 372 cases of blood clots are after over 40.2 million total doses of the vaccine. Of the 372 people who developed blood clots, 66 died." (and remember that they weren't aware of this complication at first, so presumably most of those 66 were at the beginning)

So
"Even if the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine is proven to be the cause of the clots, the rate of death is extremely low – about one in every 370,000 people vaccinated. This needs to be balanced with the known risks of coronavirus causing serious illness (with complications that can include blood clots) and death."

@youshouldbeplotting

*Over 60% of people have said they wouldn’t have it or have concerns

Do you have a link to that info - that sentence conflates two completely different issues and so is a bit misleading.*

I can’t recall where I read it but there’s a lot on the government website about statistics. It was originally 61% wouldn’t have it or had concerns. Unfortunately that’s what was printed, no idea how many would have it despite concerns etc I’m sure it’s going up and down all of the time but I think it’s great that so many people are refusing or researching beforehand.

All vaccines have side effects, all medicines have side effects. Paracetamol and ibuprofen are dangerous to some people, the contraceptive pill is more da gerous but millions have taken it for decades ..... Bet you still take them though! so if people disagree with it they shouldn't have any medicines

There are more cases of people having problems including death from Covid the cases you are talking about from the vaccine are incredibly rare as in 6 people out of of 40 million people got a blood clot!! Good on the government these unvaccinated people who can be vaccinated are putting at risk those people who cannot be vaccinated