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Any Carers here who are not taking the vaccine?

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Maybevaccine · 16/06/2021 18:57

It's apparently been confirmed now that it is compulsory for care home workers and other carers to take the vaccine.

I just got a job in a care home, and I've always said no to the vaccine. Mainly because of the things I've seen and read of people who've had the vaccine. Blood clots, death, rashes, and people still getting covid after taking the vaccine.

I don't know what to do now.

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QuornSausagesAreTheDevilsPenis · 17/06/2021 18:40

I think if you want to have a career in medicine OP you need to work on your skills in critically evaluating evidence and getting such evidence from reputable sources. Many many thousands (millions) of people have been vaccinated with no ill effects at all, certainly more than have been affected!

godmum56 · 17/06/2021 18:41

@threatmatrix

What get something that’s still on test? Wait and see when they have no staff
oh god this again
Maggiesfarm · 17/06/2021 18:41

She is not going to have a career in medicine.

munchkinman · 17/06/2021 18:42

I work for a science organisation and we have all had the vaccine as part of a trial. Out of 700 people not one has anything other than mild symptoms. I don’t know anybody who has refused it to be honest.

Get the vaccine or change jobs. It reduces transmission and makes it much safer for them. But if a no brainier to me.

fussyhousewife · 17/06/2021 18:42

It saddens me that you pose this question. If one of your relatives was in care would you think it ok for them to be looked after by someone who has not had the vaccination? I can assure you that I would be asking the care home Managers if their staff were vaccinated or I would take the high road to a care home that did have fully vaccinated staff. Not having the vaccine is inconsiderate for someone in the caring profession.

CauliflowerBalti · 17/06/2021 18:42

There are more serious side effects to catching covid than taking the vaccine - and the vaccine doesn't stop you catching covid, it just reduces your chance of needing hospitalisation, in effect rendering it somewhere between asymptomatic and feeling like you have a cold/mild flu. Because you don't have severe symptoms, you're less likely to transmit it to the VERY VULNERABLE PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH.

DrDresaid · 17/06/2021 18:42

If you get a job giving care then you have to care about your patients. So ou should have the vaccine. If you don't want the vaccine, get another job.

user1476277375 · 17/06/2021 18:44

If you are planning to go into medicine, there are other vaccines you will be required to have.

bunnybooboo79 · 17/06/2021 18:45

I work in a care home and have had both jabs- partly down to being pressured into it, basically being told back in January that this would become mandatory for us, I actually don't understand why it's being made mandatory for care workers, how is it protecting any care home resident seriously? I can still get coronavirus fully vaccinated and can still transmit it to others. Care home residents were vaccinated back in January so if they do get it they have the protection now to make them less sick - again I will ask how is someone unvaccinated anymore danger to someone vaccinated when.everybody can still transmit it!!!!!

Fernie6491 · 17/06/2021 18:45

@Suzi888

Is this actually going to be made law? I find it bizarre. What about things like chicken poxConfusedshingles is deadly to the elderly but no one is advising to get a pox jab. Not an anti vaxxer- I’ve had my jabs before anyone jumps on. I’m not a carer either. Thousands of care workers will leave- who will care for the elderly then? Of your worried, look after your elderly person yourself - some may say!
But a vaccine for shingles has been freely available for several years now for the more elderly. My DH and I both had it as an 'extra' when we had our flu jabs a few years ago. Likewise, we were both given a pneumonia vaccine.

So the elderly are already being protected against other nasty diseases.

Mymapuddlington · 17/06/2021 18:46

. If one of your relatives was in care would you think it ok for them to be looked after by someone who has not had the vaccination?

My mum was in hospice for the last 5 months before passing. Every single nurse and carer involved with her said they wouldn’t be having the vaccine and don’t see why they should.

quizqueen · 17/06/2021 18:47

I think some care homes are going to find themselves short staffed soon. Making vaccines mandatory is a slippery slope to go down. Will they stop anyone who hasn't had a vaccine from visiting too...grandchildren maybe? What about any entertainers/therapists who visit or hairdressers etc.

flippertygibbit · 17/06/2021 18:47

I'm not a carer but I don't think anyone should be forced to have a vaccine at all. I don't have relatives in care as the last two died last March (not covid) but even then I wouldn't have (and I can assure you they wouldn't have) insisted anyone had a vaccine they didn't want.

whoisyennefer · 17/06/2021 18:48

@linsey2581

I certainly wouldn’t want you working with any elderly members of my family if you weren’t vaccinated. Either take the vaccine or find another job.
How would you propose managing the crisis that will result from the lost of these staff from the social care system?

It's not the individual based decisions that we need to worry about it's the impact a government strategy will have on our whole societies care system.

I don't agree with your views but if I did as someone who works in social care I believe this will have a significant impact on providers being able to function.

Hannaaakate · 17/06/2021 18:48

I’m an agency worker so qualify for virtually no financial help, plus my partner is an apprentice I’ll be working until my due date and if I don’t need a C sec I’ll be back ASAP to afford to keep up with bills etc.

Mumloveswine · 17/06/2021 18:48

I work very close to patients, and am against vaccines. I have two medical degrees. I’m also against the fact that some jobs are making it mandatory! The side effects of the vaccines for young people and the long term risks are worrying. The risks of the vaccine are worse than the risks of covid in the young. Medical professionals are told information at uni and regurgitation it, if you step outside the box and think different there’s no support. So don’t believe everything you’re told and go with your gut OP. If you don’t want the vaccine don’t get it, I’m sure you can get work elsewhere that will look good on your CV, and all this will be blow over in a few years when hopefully you start your training. Just keep your head down until then and don’t get the vaccine.

baldafrique · 17/06/2021 18:48

@Hannaaakate
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Mymapuddlington · 17/06/2021 18:50

@quizqueen I agree. They’re already overwhelmed and short staffed. I’d rather people be cared for by those passionate by care rather than those who have been vaccinated and just want a job.

godmum56 · 17/06/2021 18:50

@Mumloveswine

I work very close to patients, and am against vaccines. I have two medical degrees. I’m also against the fact that some jobs are making it mandatory! The side effects of the vaccines for young people and the long term risks are worrying. The risks of the vaccine are worse than the risks of covid in the young. Medical professionals are told information at uni and regurgitation it, if you step outside the box and think different there’s no support. So don’t believe everything you’re told and go with your gut OP. If you don’t want the vaccine don’t get it, I’m sure you can get work elsewhere that will look good on your CV, and all this will be blow over in a few years when hopefully you start your training. Just keep your head down until then and don’t get the vaccine.
you have to medical degrees and say go with your gut? What about going with the science and the validated research?
TurquoiseLemur · 17/06/2021 18:50

@Egeegogxmv

there are carers who get a lot of satisfaction being carers, empathetic people who build relationships with the people they care for poor sods still dont get a living wage in return for all that giving and caring... it's a mugs game...isnt it?
I've said already that carers' pay is a scandal.

I don't think they should be allowed to turn down a jab just because they are poorly paid. And most carers in care homes have had jabs because they don't want the people they care for to be infected.

whataballbag · 17/06/2021 18:51

I'm very pro vaccine, but this is just too far IMO.

maxbabi · 17/06/2021 18:52

@RampantIvy

There is a middle ground here those that had the first one and had severe side affects..... Where do those ppl fit in?

The side effects aren't as bad after the second dose, and I would rather put up with a couple of days of feeling ill than risk getting covid TBH.

Are you speaking as a Dr? As I have spoken to a few re my reaction and they can't guarantee anything.
RampantIvy · 17/06/2021 18:53

Said to me by one of the nurses at the vaccination hub I attended last week @maxbabi.

Mymapuddlington · 17/06/2021 18:54

would rather put up with a couple of days of feeling ill than risk getting covid TBH

Tell that to those in line for vaccine damages payment. Just because you think you’ll only suffer a couple of days doesn’t mean that everyone is the same.

baldafrique · 17/06/2021 18:54

It's sad that carers having high risk pregnancies will be forced to leave their jobs