Any Carers here who are not taking the vaccine?

[Maybevaccine]

It's apparently been confirmed now that it is compulsory for care home workers and other carers to take the vaccine.

I just got a job in a care home, and I've always said no to the vaccine. Mainly because of the things I've seen and read of people who've had the vaccine. Blood clots, death, rashes, and people still getting covid after taking the vaccine.

I don't know what to do now.

"And no I haven't and won't be having the vaccine due to a close family member being left with chemo due to his immune system turning in on itself. In intensive Care, blood clots on the brain, lungs and liver and a platelet transfusion 200 miles from home."

Are you okay with that relative then being treated by unjabbed medical health professionals?
That's what's important here, the patients. The carers have the choice to bodily autonomy, but not when looking after people who are so vulnerable, that's all.

@ZednotZee

If it was my vulnerable relative you were looking after, I'd be mightily cheesed off if you weren't doing all you could to a) stay healthy and b) prevent onwards transmission

And I'm sure that you expect your opinion on the matter to induce a sense of abject mortification at your displeasure...

Nah, I'm not holding my breath.

I’ve worked in a hospice and in a university, and I had to have all the hepatitis jabs, flu jabs etc. When I had shingles I wasn’t allowed in the building, d and v you are off for at least 48 hours. All these things are just part of the job.

If you said in your med school interview that you hadn't vaccinated for these reasons, I don't think they would give you a place.
As a Dr, you need to make decisions based on factual reports and data, using risk based assessments, advice in the BMJ etc. Not on anecdotal information.

It’s amazing that you have to give up your right to make your own decision about what you inject into your body. Unfortunately a lot of people will have to decide to compromise on their own freedom of choice or look for a new job. I couldn’t do a job that didn’t allow me the basic respect to make my own choices.

This vaccine is so new - just because millions of people have had it doesn’t mean that is tried and tested - I know many people who work in the pharma industry who will not be vaccinated

@Mymapuddlington

So you won’t be getting it either so you can go on holiday ?

If other countries insist on it for entry ?

I've seen people get covid and sometimes it costing lives. Everyone I know who could get the Vaccine has had it with only one person showing side effects (tired & achy for a day or so).
If you are unsure research it from trusted sources... not just a guy, or some doctor on social media that has a doctorate in Roman history when you look into it.
My view protect the vulnerable or find a different job.

I once went to a hospital and spent 15 minutes listening to a outwardly reasonable couple tell me the government is poisoning people with chem trails fron RAF Aeroplanes.... they'd read it on the Internet... I smiled and nodded and as soon as there was a lull in the conversation moved round the corner.
I look at the spreaders of this ' misinformation' in the same way as Scams except instead of money its health.

Sorry if I'm a little strong and everyone should decide for themselves but... if they are in contact with vulnerable people your not just deciding for yourself.

@Bluntness100
Just curious. I know a lot of pregnant and breastfeeding women who arent keen to have it in those circumstances. Wondered whether it would count as a medical exemption or whether they would still be expected to leave if they dont have it done. Who knows eh.

" I know many people who work in the pharma industry who will not be vaccinated"
Many? Really?
They're probably in the wrong industry if they don't have any trust in their own, highly-tested, internationally cross-investigated products.

I work in social care, fully vaccinated, believe that those who aren't having a vaccine lack some critical thinking skills BUT I believe that people have the right to choose and will make my opposition known in the consultation.

It doesn't matter why people don't want it (knowing does help so you can provide info), much like voting and the decision to marry it is a human right.

I am really interested in posters who say get another job etc, I really don't think you understand how fragile the social care system is!

Yesterday I had a commissioner from a local authority asking desperately for any provider to support another provider overnight as they had hit crisis point.

Removing 20% of trained, experienced staff is only going to tip this further into crisis. How as a society are you going to support us to make this a priority for this government?

I can’t have the vaccine for medical reasons and extra risk to my current pregnancy due to said health issues. So I assume I’m jobless. I’ve worked 40+ hours per week exclusive nightshifts end of life care wearing gloves, masks, aprons, gauntlets, mask and visor for the entirety of my 12 hour shifts, get tested every other day, and have continued to stay in ‘lockdown’ (no shops, days out absolutely nothing!) just to add ive worked with COVID pos patients and nothing therefore I feel the precautions I have been taking are entirely adequate. I’ve worked the shifts nobody else wanted - anti social, physically demanding throughout my pregnancy only to now be penalised for putting my unborn child’s safety first. To everyone saying not to work in care unless you get the vaccine, make it compulsory for patients too then- if I should even though there is a huge risk to my unborn son, if I wear a mask none stop for hours even whilst suffering from prodromal labour (which is excruciating and hot without a mask let alone with all the other clobber) no one without a mask should be able to enter a care premises.

I’d rather be jobless and stick to what my gut is telling me is the right decision for myself and my unborn son. When no one else will work the hours I’ve chosen too it won’t be my loved ones without adequate numbers to provide good quality care.

@fatandlumpy

I actually volunteered for a clinical trial (so I would get vaccinated early).

No such thing as altruism...

I got 2 shots of the J&J so I'm on 10G and my wifi reception is THROUGH THE ROOF!

All clinicians have to get their HepB. I'm not so sure why a requirement for ALL front line care workers to be vaccinated is considered a violation of their human rights when there is a clear presedent example.

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@Hannaaakate
Would you definitely not be exempt on medical grounds? I really feel for women in your position.

@Hannaaakate
I think you also have 16 weeks to have the vaccine done so will you still be working at that point anyway?

Being a carer involves taking care of vulnerable people, one reason for healthy people being vaccinated is to do just that, if you don't want the jab, find another job.
My husband is clinically vulnerable and a nurse, 2x pfizer with no issues, I'm a carer 2x astra zeneca with no issues. In both our experiences, we don't know anyone that has had a bad reaction to the vaccine but my best friend died of covid in December, she was 35 and left behind her 12 year old and 8 year old children.

Look at Ellie Grey on Instagram. She has the way to decline it. It’s your body and your choice…. She can help you I think her account is Unity Holistic Health …. Good luck 🤞

Im a private home carer, those I care for are vaccinated but Im currently not vaccinated on medical advice due to previous blood issues but wear a mask and follow proceedures completely still.

Hopefully will have had the first vaccine shot by August when my medical risk is expected to be more stablised.

I dont get how someone would willfully risk others lives.

If you don't want to get a vaccine to protect vulnerable people based on what you've read then you're in the wrong job.

Do you want the job or not? I travel for work and have to have vaccines. It goes with the territory. This is not new, plenty of people have to have vaccines to travel. Before you say no…check out the side affects of taking paracetamol or hay fever tablets, all medicines, have the potential for side. The decision is yours

@Sadsiblingatsea

I don’t blame you OP. This vaccine has too many side effects.

Not as many side-effects as Covid and the lockdowns.

There isn't a vaccine in existence that never has side-effects.

[quote baldafrique]@Bluntness100
Just curious. I know a lot of pregnant and breastfeeding women who arent keen to have it in those circumstances. Wondered whether it would count as a medical exemption or whether they would still be expected to leave if they dont have it done. Who knows eh.[/quote]
But why would they be exempt. They have no additional risk from the vaccine. They’d only be exempt if there was. “Not keen” doesn’t count.

@Maybevaccine Out of curiosity, how does that effect people who can't have a vaccine or down as carers for relatives or disabled children. I can't have the vaccine and was told by someone from nhs that if vaccine passports come in I cant be refused service as it would be classed as discrimination as can't have it. Would it work the same here?

@PMUZOE

Look at Ellie Grey on Instagram. She has the way to decline it. It’s your body and your choice…. She can help you I think her account is Unity Holistic Health …. Good luck 🤞

If you are working in a care home it is NOT just your body and your choice. Other people are at risk.

Would YOU be comfortable if a loved one in a care home was being looked after by someone who has been offered the vaccine and has chosen to turn it down? I bet you wouldn't!

Choices have consequences. The one being made here will probably mean that the care home isn't happy to continue employing the carer. That's how it works, it's called being an adult.

[quote baldafrique]@Notthemessiah
I'm an NHS doctor and noone has ever asked or checked whether I've had the flu jab or not in my whole career. It's really interesting. Literally noone has given a shit. Same for care homes I'm sure. Now people are insisting on mandatory covid jabs. It's an interesting one for sure.[/quote]
It is.
But what’s wrong is that the flu jab hasn’t been mandatory, not that covid jab is...

@Bluntness100
Fair enough. I guess they have 16 weeks anyway to get the vaccine done so may not affect too many anyhow.