Any Carers here who are not taking the vaccine?

[Maybevaccine]

It's apparently been confirmed now that it is compulsory for care home workers and other carers to take the vaccine.

I just got a job in a care home, and I've always said no to the vaccine. Mainly because of the things I've seen and read of people who've had the vaccine. Blood clots, death, rashes, and people still getting covid after taking the vaccine.

I don't know what to do now.

Care homes have massive problems with staff shortages, hopefully this won’t make things worse. It’s easy to say if you don’t want the vaccine then leave, but it’s not like loads of people are queuing up to take these very hard jobs for low pay. Presumably the relatives will be happy to look after their relatives themselves if the lack of staff becomes even more acute or will be willing to pay a lot more so staff can actually be fairly recompensed for their work.

The attitude of get the vaccine or you can’t look after my relative is extremely arrogant and short sighted.

Thanks @ZednotZee. It's very hard to understand and it's been a long day, so flowers are appreciated!

Furlough is ending soon. Many people will lose their jobs when that happens. There will be PLENTY of people looking for new jobs within the next 3 months.

You might even develop a respect for the people doing a job that you don't want to do and doubtless secretly (or maybe openly) feel is beneath you.

That’s not fair. No one is looking down on care workers- I used to be one. As a healthcare assistant I had to get a hep B jab. As do health workers at all levels of pay. It’s just one of the requirements of the job. It’s normal. Jobs of all sorts have requirements of all sorts. No one is entitled to a particular job if they can’t fulfil the criteria / meet the safety requirements.

@Maybevaccine

I'll have to get the vaccine aren't I? I mean now that they want to make it compulsory for care workers and NHS, I have to get it. My goal is it get into medicine in 2023, which is why I got this job so I can have some work experience. I literally have no choice as I'm always going to be working in healthcare.

I think you need to update a lot more than work experience if you hope to do medicine. Reading clinical information and critical thinking are essential so I would suggest you start on that now. If you genuinely cannot discern the positives of the data on vaccination you may be better looking for another career I work in the NHS and have been struck that all of the clinicians were keen to get the early vaccines, it was generally the less highly educated and less clinical staff who wanted to wait or decline

Not in the care sector.

Can people stop comparing to the Hep B? That vaccine is to protect clinicians FROM patients.

Can people stop comparing to the Hep B? That vaccine is to protect clinicians FROM patients.

The covid vaccine also protects clinicians from patients. A vaccinated clinician is far less likely to catch covid from an infectious person than an unvaccinated clinician.

"Sushirolls

Me. I was sacked yesterday, for standing up for my basic human rights and bodily autonomy. I'm not the only one, either."

Assuming you work in a customer facing/caring role, what about the human rights of those you work with to not be made very ill or killed by you giving them this virus?

Actually, @Saintsfan7 no I am not resident facing at all. I had Covid last year and still have antibodies and follow all the guidance such as temp checking, ppe and testing 3 times a week. I am not a risk to anyone. Besides, they've all been jabbed, haven't they? Or does your vaccine not work? Also, why do their human rights trump mine?!

Ask vaccinated people why they got vaccinated and I can pretty much guarantee that "to protect me from catching covid" will be within their top three reasons, for many of them it will be the top reason.

Those who don’t want the vaccine or believe in it etc, what arrogance level must you have to think you know more than the medical profession?

I find it amazing that people can firstly, be so stupid and secondly, actually publicise that fact!

Get the vaccine, grow up and stop making yourself look like attention whores, it’s always poorly educated drama queens kicking off never anyone with half a brain

Get the vaccine or hand your notice in. The vulnerable in care homes deserve to be protected.

@Bizawit

You might even develop a respect for the people doing a job that you don't want to do and doubtless secretly (or maybe openly) feel is beneath you.

That’s not fair. No one is looking down on care workers- I used to be one. As a healthcare assistant I had to get a hep B jab. As do health workers at all levels of pay. It’s just one of the requirements of the job. It’s normal. Jobs of all sorts have requirements of all sorts. No one is entitled to a particular job if they can’t fulfil the criteria / meet the safety requirements.

You knew that before you took the job - they didn't spring it on you after you'd been there for years and tell you that you'd be sacked if you didn't have it.

If people don't realise that care workers are only the first group and the precedent this sets (hep B was never a legal requirement) then there is no helping them and they deserve the kind of society they're sleepwalking into.

Blood clots, rashes and death are far more common among people who have had Covid than among people who have had the vaccine.

I am double vaccinated to protect myself, my family and YOU or from you too!

If no one is vaccinated then I suppose it will be natural survival of the fittest! To leave only the medically strongest fortified so no snowflakes or those with underlying medical issues including age vulnerabilities or obesity etc.

@motogogo

I intend to hand my notice in if they don't decide to do a volte face.

I'd encourage Hancock to follow suit, whatever the outcome.

@noshiforever

To enter dp's DD's care home we need to show our vaccination app and a lateral flow test. All her carers are vaccinated and have been for months. If this wasn't the case we would have removed her, but they have been brilliant, small team staying for weeks at the start

This has been such a topic of conversation today, im a carer and have taken the vaccine but it was my choice, I had it for the people I care for, the worry of passing covid on and someone dying because of me has been my biggest worry from day one.
That said, I also feel strongly that people shouldn't be forced into any vaccine.
I'm massively concerned about the effects of this on the care sector, a sector already on its knees is just going to get worse, I wonder how many people saying "just get another job" understand what's going to happen?? We have such a shortage of good carers as it is, the effects on care homes will be awful...
I say all this as a carer of 20yrs

@baldafrique

Can people stop comparing to the Hep B? That vaccine is to protect clinicians FROM patients.

So what? So there’s even less justification for hep B policy than there is for this policy! I didn’t want to get it, but it was a requirement of the job, so I did. End of.

Unfortunately, 85% of those who apply for the nhs funding are turned down and assessed as not requiring it.

@Bizawit
That's my point

i wouldn't want at the moment to come to your care home, I'm looking after you so you should reciprocate if you have a problem your in the wrong place betting if you caught it you would change your selfish attitude,

I would have thought by now that enough people have been vaccinated to show that the conspiracy theorists have exaggerated beyond all sense. Have the vaccine.

[quote baldafrique]@Bizawit
That's my point [/quote]
I don’t understand? What is your point? The two are entirely comparable. This policy is no more onerous / unreasonable / disproportionate than the hep B policy.

@baldafrique

Can people stop comparing to the Hep B? That vaccine is to protect clinicians FROM patients.

Speechless.