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To use ‘Rose’ as middle name for my rainbow baby?

229 replies

Qu33nSt3ph13 · 16/06/2021 10:05

I lost my precious first born Ella-Rose October last year, now 22 weeks with our rainbow baby boy!

Would Rose work as his middle name? Please be nice, but don’t feel obliged to say yes just because of the situation :-)

Thanks

OP posts:
Whinge · 16/06/2021 10:48

I was asking for opinions but at the end of the day it’s my choice.

I understand this, but please remember that although you and your partner have the final choice in the name. You're not the one who has to live with the name. If you use Rose then there's a good chance your son will have quite a difficult time if other children / adults find out. Of course no one should be bullied or teased because of their name, but it would be naive to pretend it doesn't happen.

mamamalt · 16/06/2021 10:49

As others have said I wouldn't. But could you plant a rose Bush or something instead in memory. Something to nurture and grow that will last.
Sorry for your loss and congratulations on your rainbow baby.

worriedaboutN · 16/06/2021 10:49

Rose is a flower
Who decided flowers were only for girls ?????
That’s like taking a backwards step to be honest. Boys can play with dolls, wear pink, wear dresses etc but we can’t have Rose as a middle name ??

OP I think it’s a beautiful idea. Ignore anyone saying it’s not ok full stop or he won’t be a baby forever etc and then it won’t work

One day he will be a grown man and proudly carrying a beautiful name with a beautiful meaning behind it

So sorry for your loss XX

AryaStarkWolf · 16/06/2021 10:50

Sorry for your loss OP, but no don't give him the name Rose, it's such a girls name, he will hate it and probably get mocked whenever his school mates find out

HolyMilkBoobiesBatman · 16/06/2021 10:51

I wouldn’t use Rose for a boy as PP have said.
You could perhaps use ‘Ellis’ instead of Ella?

I think of you want to use the initials E R then I would probably stick to that for any future children so it becomes a ‘family thing’ like how some siblings all have the same initial. That way it becomes less about this child feeling like a ‘replacement’ and more about a connection for all the children.

worriedaboutN · 16/06/2021 10:51

@Whinge

I was asking for opinions but at the end of the day it’s my choice.

I understand this, but please remember that although you and your partner have the final choice in the name. You're not the one who has to live with the name. If you use Rose then there's a good chance your son will have quite a difficult time if other children / adults find out. Of course no one should be bullied or teased because of their name, but it would be naive to pretend it doesn't happen.

I actually don’t know anyone who routinely has to declare their middle name if they don’t want to My children have very unique unusual middle names. Nobody knows as nobody has asked !
DarkDarkNight · 16/06/2021 10:51

I’m sorry for your loss but I don’t think you should use Rose. I don’t think it would be fair to your son to give him such a feminine name.

AryaStarkWolf · 16/06/2021 10:51

@worriedaboutN

Rose is a flower Who decided flowers were only for girls ????? That’s like taking a backwards step to be honest. Boys can play with dolls, wear pink, wear dresses etc but we can’t have Rose as a middle name ??

OP I think it’s a beautiful idea. Ignore anyone saying it’s not ok full stop or he won’t be a baby forever etc and then it won’t work

One day he will be a grown man and proudly carrying a beautiful name with a beautiful meaning behind it

So sorry for your loss XX

Oh come off it, it's a girls name and always has been, the child will get mocked by other children.
ChocolateChipMuffin2016 · 16/06/2021 10:51

This is outing, but my middle name is my dead aunts name, my eldest brother is also a (male) variation of that name and my other brother (rainbow baby) is named after one of our dead brothers. It's never done any of us any harm!! I quite like it actually, I think it's a nice way to remember those who we've lost.
I think Rose cant be used as it is a girls name and kids will be awful about it, but definitely use a variation, so Ross, Ellis or similar...

LittleMimi · 16/06/2021 10:52

I think the same initials or using a male version similar to Rose for a middle name work. I believe the majority of middle names are in honour of a relative so I don’t see the automatic assumption that the child is a replacement and not an individual anymore than someone with their grandmother’s name as a middle name should be expected to be like her.

Also I wish some people would realise there’s a person at the other reading these messages and you can get your point across without being so rude and insensitive.

Derbee · 16/06/2021 10:52

Despite the emotional circumstances, think Rose for a boy should be a no go. Your idea of the same ER initials is a lovely one.

Derbee · 16/06/2021 10:53

Or change the E for an S and have Ross?

herecomesthsun · 16/06/2021 10:53

Other boys' names that are a bit similar

Ross

Rory (means red king)

Russell (meaning little red haired one)

Rowan

Rees or Rhys (which means enthusiasm which is rather lovely)

Vadhir/ Vartan/ Vered apparently mean "rose"

Royce/ Royston

Rosario (sounds very Catholic, a little bit less feminine in form)

Tal45 · 16/06/2021 10:53

@imisscashmere

We have a friend, Andrew, who is affectionately nicknamed “Rose”. I don’t know where it even comes from - it could even be his middle name for all I know. He’s much loved, and a pretty masculine (eg rugby-playing) guy.
Maybe because the rose is the symbol of the England rugby team?
worriedaboutN · 16/06/2021 10:53

@AryaStarkWolf

It’s the name of a flower first and foremost which actually I feel personally makes it potentially suitable for a boy or a girl in the context the OP describes

motogogo · 16/06/2021 10:54

Rowan is a good compromise, still a plant name, just one used for boys typically

ineedaholidaynow · 16/06/2021 10:55

I'm not sure what world you live in @worriedaboutN.

Do your children like their unique names?

EmeraldShamrock · 16/06/2021 10:56

No definitely not, his birth already has a high expectation as a rainbow baby, he needs to be himself and not his sister.

Tal45 · 16/06/2021 10:56

There are a gazillion different roses with different names - a quick google search came up with ones called Lincoln, Joseph and Eden - so what about picking a name from a rose as a link?

AryaStarkWolf · 16/06/2021 10:56

[quote worriedaboutN]@AryaStarkWolf

It’s the name of a flower first and foremost which actually I feel personally makes it potentially suitable for a boy or a girl in the context the OP describes[/quote]
How many male Rose's do you know? Or how many famous male Rose's can you name?

It's not sexist to have male and female names ffs

MadeOfStarStuff · 16/06/2021 10:56

I’m sorry for your loss but YABU to use Rose for a boy, it would be fine for a DD though

AryaStarkWolf · 16/06/2021 10:57

@Tal45

There are a gazillion different roses with different names - a quick google search came up with ones called Lincoln, Joseph and Eden - so what about picking a name from a rose as a link?
Ah that's a nice idea
worriedaboutN · 16/06/2021 10:58

@ineedaholidaynow

I'm not sure what world you live in *@worriedaboutN*.

Do your children like their unique names?

Actually one hates his and the others love them BUT literally nobody is aware of them as it’s never asked ! On the gp registration form etc that’s about it My dc who hates it said ‘not keen on it now but I might change my mind one day. Tbh I don’t have to disclose it ‘
IntermittentParps · 16/06/2021 10:58

I think it's a beautiful idea and you should do it if you want to.
Ignore rude and dismissive comments on here.
I don't think it matters if people think it's a girl's name, but another way to look at it might be that it could be part of his surname IYSWIM. So if your surname is Smith you/people could think of it as 'Ezekiel Rose-Smith' except the hyphen is invisible Smile

I do think though that Rosen, Rowan and Roe are all lovely if you wanted to stick to more traditional boys' names.

chandyleer · 16/06/2021 10:58

In Tamora Pierce's Magic Circl books, a character has to choose a name for himself. He really likes roses but knows he can’t choose that, so goes for Briar instead. Would something like that work for your little boy?

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