To think neighbours having parties in their gardens should have some consideration for neighbours?

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Couple next door but one are in their sixties and in the last few weeks have had "gatherings" in their garden that have gone on until at least 2am. The houses are semi detatched so gardens have shared fences and the houses also back onto other gardens. Before anyone leaps on me, I am all for people having fun but not at the expense of everyone around them. They back onto a house with young children and are direct neighbours to a family with a young child. Today, they started a really noisy party in their gardens at 2pm that appears to have about 30plus people present so despite the babble of noise, singing, shouting etc I thought "Fair enough, it's afternoon, no problem"... It's STILL going on 10 hours later. They are singing and laughing at the absolute tops of their voices, chanting football songs etc. I have had to shut my windows on a warm night and turn the TV up really loud to drown them out. My ds has shut his windows but they can still be heard up there despite that. Ds heard a young child crying no doubt disturbed by the noise. The absolute selfishness of it just gets to me so much. I just want them to give a little bit of thought especially to elderly neighbours /those with children /neighbours in general and maybe have the kindness and intelligence to quieten down now. Aibu?

@Brefugee

Ah. They're over 60, the monsters. And yet early morning child noise in gardens is just your lovely kids enjoying themselves.

Go round, ask them to keep it down after 11pm.

To be fair, we only have one child and he is 15 so not playing noisily in the garden! I don't mind hearing children playing in their gardens, they aren't generally playing for 12 hours straight until 2am.

@Shoxfordian

Why don’t you report it yourself if it’s bothering you instead of hoping someone else does?

^^This

Ah. They're over 60, the monsters. And yet early morning child noise in gardens is just your lovely kids enjoying themselves.

Surely the point is that they're not 20 year old students but fully formed adults who should have learned some consideration by now. Most people don't let their DC play in the garden early in the morning. Those who do are also inconsiderate arseholes but one isn't related to the other.

The neighbours at the end of our row of terraces have been certainly making up for lost time. Massive party on may 17th, thought that was fair enough. Then it’s been every weekend, including Monday night. This past weekend has been ridiculous with their TV blaring loud and screaming and shouting all day until 7AM (yes, AM) I’m sure they must be doing coke or something to keep going as they are. My 3.5 year old has been up since 4am because of the noise.

The thing is, the guy is a total cunt and it isn’t safe to tel him to turn it down. He told me to fuck off in the street the only time I’ve smiled and said hello. Our very elderly neighbour a few doors down from him asked him to turn the music down pre-Covid, and the guy plastered abusive posters all down the back lane and called the police on the elderly neighbours (very gentle) dog saying it went for him.

The guy is a fucking twat of epic proportions. I’m now keeping a noise diary, as are a few other neighbours, and we’re going to go the council.

It’s so distressing though. I don’t mind reasonable noise/kids shouting etc. We live in a row of terraces so it’s to be expected. But idiots like that need to live in the middle of nowhere.

Sorry you’re going through it too OP, it’s hellish.

Can I just say that, if the party started at 2pm and you're on Mumsnet posting at just after 10pm, that's an 8-hour party and not 10 hours ....

I'll get my coat.

Students a few doors down were out in their garden until 5am last night. Victorian terrace with small gardens. I was tired enough to sleep through it, but it kept DH awake.
Last weekend was a different house with really loud drum and base. This was more annoying, as it was the sort of sound you feel as well as hear. Stopped at 2am, but i think the police were called.
Im fine with a bit of " live and let live" but would be annoyed if if was too frequent and always the same house.

I don't understand why its usually grown up women who feel the need to scream loudly at parties....why ?
I used to have neighbours like this ,screaming ,noise ,etc..till 3or 4am in morning .
Their guests brought young children who would be playing in the road unsupervised.
A neighbour after being abused for asking for less noise and to someone keep a eye on their kids phoned the police.
Police came out had words party over .
Two weeks later same happened police called again .
The final time was a week later police came out etc..but this time waited nearby and caught the guests drink driving

Neighbour put house up for sale and blamed the boring neighbours .

I think in this situation the only thing to do is to approach them

After 11:00pm is totally unacceptable imo. It's probably the thing I hate most about the summer months, noise, and bloody flys

We had a house about 80 yards away playing defending bass from 5:00pm to 11:00pm last night. They stopped at bang on 11:00pm. It was a party as I saw balloons at the door. I felt for the houses nearer than us esp one with two young kids

We have spoken with a house three doors down before and they were great

@JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue

Can I just say that, if the party started at 2pm and you're on Mumsnet posting at just after 10pm, that's an 8-hour party and not 10 hours ....

I'll get my coat.

My bad... the noise was clearly affecting my numeracy skills! As it happens it went on until 2am so 12 hours in total. Tbh, 7 hours, 8 hours, whatever... It's all too much.

Yep the people at the back of me have so many people round and such loud music it’s like having a pub beer garden at the back. They’ve hung up string lights, the works. And yes to the shouting, whooping, singing etc. It’s endless. They do this virtually every night all summer long, till 4 or 5am. It’s an HMO so they don’t care. Tried speaking to them got nowhere. Both my living room and bedroom are at the front of the house where I can’t hear it so I just leave them to it now.

I don’t really see a point in reporting if their immediate neighbours aren’t doing anything about it. God knows how they put up with it, it must be so loud. But police don’t get involved. Council are pretty useless. I’m technically in the next street. I don’t think it would do much good.

I do think it’s supremely selfish. The odd one off, fine. But not all summer long. I am lucky in the respect that I don’t hear it in my room etc. But there are some evenings I wouldn’t mind going out in my garden myself and it’s just not enjoyable with all that going on.

YNBU. We have had months of sex pond parties including on workdays when people have had work and school in the morning. It is emotionally draining and there's a special place in hell for CFer neighbours.

don’t really see a point in reporting if their immediate neighbours aren’t doing anything about it. God knows how they put up with it, it must be so loud.

I am an immediate neighbour to a nightmare tenant. None of the other neighbours know I have reported the incidents on a number of occasions (to no avail I might add) as when you're in this situation you literally don't know who you can trust and it literally is pot luck if you get a 101 officer who understands how much it affects you or one who DGAF because they don't have to live with it. But please report to 101 if it is affecting you too even if it doesn't sound that bad. Many voices against one nightmare neighbour help much more than one on their own does. In the past few weeks I have had several of the neighbours come up to me and ask me to report them as it is starting to disturb their sleep pattern when they have to get up for work in the morning. I told them that they are free to report them. Surrounding neighbours will be helping the immediate neighbour more than you know.

I invited my disabled mum over for lunch. She rarely goes out and is really looking forward to it. I've just spotted the noisy, entitled pricks next door rearranging their garden and putting a huge screen up so I'm guessing that's my quiet civilised lunch in the garden gone. Every weekend they have a gathering, didn't even stop in lockdown.

I've just had to move one of our cars onto the road to bag somewhere for my mum to park her adapted vehicle that's nearby before their mates take all of the spaces. Cheeky fuckers from next door are now talking in the garden about asking me to move it. I won't be answering the door.

yes. especially if you left your laundry out for the night
you wouldn't want it to get musiced on!

Neighbours where we used to live did this, and there were so many of them that it really was every single weekend throughout the summer.

Moved away for work 11 year ago and were amazed to find that, despite being surrounded by people, it was reasonably quiet here.

Sadly that couldn't last. More and more houses are being converted to HMOs and as soon as the nice weather comes so does the racket. They don't stick to weekends either, so we have to get up for work and school having had a party over the back going on into the early hours.

So many people suffer with this; surely it is time for some sort of legislation on what you can and can't do in a residential area?

I love a MN double standard.

We see so many posts with people complaining about children playing loudly outside and they are told to suck it up, shouldn’t have moved to an area with families, stop being a joy sponge, don’t you know how hard it is for parents, kids deserve to be able to play at 8am in their own garden.

Now adult neighbours are doing the same and the parents are bleating that those people should have more consideration for the children and not play outside.

Or maybe, we should accept that when co-existing with others, sometimes we will be inconvenienced and just have to put up with stuff that bugs us from time to time.

If you want quiet OP, move to the middle of nowhere. Stop being a joy sponge.

Same problem here. They and the visitors have kids who wander around at gone 11pm when they're pissed off their faces, whooping, shrieking dancing I the garden with music really loud (aa loud as you would have in an enclosed disco!). And we are terraces with narrow gardens. It's really awful. Perhaps they let the next door neighbours know in advance, but that doesn't help the people backing onto them
From 3pm until midnight couldn't sit in the garden or even have the windows open the shouting (talking) and then music was so much.

Am fine with subtle noise in gatherings, a bit of music wafting over here and there, normal chatter. But it seems people just take it to extremes because they know no one will dare say a thing.

@Yondergoat

Neighbours where we used to live did this, and there were so many of them that it really was every single weekend throughout the summer.

Moved away for work 11 year ago and were amazed to find that, despite being surrounded by people, it was reasonably quiet here.

Sadly that couldn't last. More and more houses are being converted to HMOs and as soon as the nice weather comes so does the racket. They don't stick to weekends either, so we have to get up for work and school having had a party over the back going on into the early hours.

So many people suffer with this; surely it is time for some sort of legislation on what you can and can't do in a residential area?

Legislation is way way overdue, and what is currently there is a nonsense.

It is time to stop people behaving anti socially and making their neighbours lives a misery.

You want a party? Hire a bloody hall! You want to hear thumping loud music for hours at a time? Go to the pub! You want to burn things? Get away from residential areas.

@MintyMabel

I'm genuinely interested - are you illiterate or did you not bother reading the OP?

Children playing in the garden at 8am for a few hours (although personally I'd not let mine out until 9am on a weekend) is very obviously not the same as large number of adults and children a music system which continues all day long until 2am. The latter is MUCH louder and stops people sleeping during hours when most of the neighbohood will be in bed. Are you seriously telling me you can't see why one is just part of having neighbours and the other is massively inconsiderate.

Yanbu but this is why I live rurally... I'm currently in my garden with the outdoor speakers BLARING my fave music! Bliss!!

I love hearing people out in their gardens enjoying the weather, we have early morning kids, 8am on a bank holiday too shriek
We have a dude over the road revving his engine.

Yappy dogs at all hours.

Kids with balls against fences.

Building noise all the time.. Who knew people did DIY every year!

I dont understand why people get so annoyed by it, I live in a cul de sac and we are surrounded by people in their gardens all year round.

I think its unreasonable to expect people to be silent all the time.

Oh, Its the England game today, and a beautiful day, so expect lots of horrible people out in their gardens consuming ridiculous amounts of alcohol and its coming home on repeat.

I think that the U.K. has weird rules for such a crowded country.

You would not throw litter over your neighbour’s fence, so why unwanted noise?

Paris has a rule of no noise after 8pm, and if you complain, the police will come and enforce it.

With sleep being v important for health, I don’t see why we cannot be stricter here.

Almost forgot to mention the live bands and religious ceremonies into the wee hours too..!

@MintyMabel,

It Is not a double standard.

Society has to agree acceptable hours for noise, so people can sleep.

There is strict legislation for noisy building work; this should apply to all noise.

@PhatPhanny Surely you can understand the difference between kids playing, people next door chatting, a dog barking and constant loud noise that means you can't enjoy your garden or get to sleep.