To be pissed off that even though every other thread in AIBU has a relevant topic it could go in, it only seems to be feminism-related threads that get moved?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Looking at the first page of AIBU alone, I can see several threads that would more appropriately be posted in Relationships, Coronavirus, Education, Chat, Politics, etc etc.

People post all sorts of irrelevant non-AIBU shitin AIBU for traffic. Everyone knows this.

And yet it only seems to be feminism-related threads that attract a load of posters going “UGH there’s a feminism topic for this you know” and eventually the threads get put back in their place, just like those pesky feminists moved to the feminism topic, where only people who seek out feminism-based threads will see them.

Why is this? Why is it ok for people to post in AIBU about covid vaccines, or employment issues, or whether you live within walking distance of your kids school, but not to bring attention to current issues facing women that many may not be aware of?

I disagree, I think it’s hypocritical not to acknowledge the constant TAATing when complaining about feminist posts in AIBU.

@SoupDragon

Anyway, I'm going to hide this now for the same reason I have all the FWR boards hidden.

Thanks for the update 👍🏼

I can’t see any guidelines specifically against tagging pumper in every thread on actual issues affecting women, as she declares interest in those. Of course, many happen to be in fwr which seems to be where non trivial issues get bumped to.
I’m sure if you start a thread on actual issues affecting women it’ll stay put.

@timeisnotaline

I can’t see any guidelines specifically against tagging pumper in every thread on actual issues affecting women, as she declares interest in those. Of course, many happen to be in fwr which seems to be where non trivial issues get bumped to. I’m sure if you start a thread on actual issues affecting women it’ll stay put.

Feel free! What a weird threat!

Please do make sure they’re actual issues affecting women, with evidence from somewhere other than Twitter or mumsnet, thanks.

I just can’t comprehend ignoring all these threads of evidence as to how women are being affected. Real women, in the real world. And the evidence is not just Twitter and mumsnet but Twitter is a really useful mine if information, you can even put links in tweets now!

@timeisnotaline

I just can’t comprehend ignoring all these threads of evidence as to how women are being affected. Real women, in the real world. And the evidence is not just Twitter and mumsnet but Twitter is a really useful mine if information, you can even put links in tweets now!

Well, just follow the links they provide to any documentation or real-world consequence.

And maybe hold off on the threats too.

@AngeloMysterioso

Is there any particular reason why it's so important to you to have FWR threads in AIBU?

It’s not so much that it’s important to me to have FWR threads in AIBU, but (as I’ve said, repeatedly) every other thread in AIBU is one that doesn’t really belong there (there’s one on the first page right now that’s about cleaning paddling pools for God’s sake, wtf does that have to do with AIBU?) but none of those other threads attracted the ire of people moaning that they haven’t been posted in Chat/Housekeeping/wherever in the same way that FWR related threads do. As demonstrated by the number of covid threads that are still posted in AIBU on a daily basis and allowed to stay there. There’s one on the first page right now about vaccines with over 250 comments, and not one person has gone “ugh there’s a coronavirus board for this you know”. That happens on feminism threads within the first five minutes usually!

It just smacks a bit of “feminists, get back in your box”.

It seems it's down to individual users and what they are fussed with, some will give more attention to x thread than say y thread, as frustrating as it can seem, it seems it's people being people ect. At least that's my guess.

This is why it's happening. Posters like @oioisaveloy108 (who I suspect is a man)

Lmao, why?!
Because they don't agree with you?
Yet another reason people eye roll and hide the board, because if you ever disagree on something you must be a man
It reminds me of that Monty Python sketch lol
It's honestly laughable.

@Quaggars nope, because of their other posts on other threads, which tend to have a vein of misogyny in them

Comes across as they're not posting ladylike enough
It's ridiculous how people point and go " a man!" if they see a different viewpoint, or someone disagrees.
Newsflash - not all women think alike. We're all separate human beings with our own minds.
Who'd have thunk it

Yep because misogyny = unladylike rather than woman hating.

I just can’t comprehend ignoring all these threads of evidence as to how women are being affected.

Your ability to comprehend is neither here nor there. It is what it is. People have different views and priorities in their lives. You will do things or have opinions that others "can't comprehend" and that's OK.

There’s a thread about shingles that belongs in General Health.

A thread about wanting children close together that belongs in Family Planning.

Several crappy DH threads that belong in Relationships.

A thread about University rankings that belongs in Education.

None of them have been moved though... weird.

Most of them are people needing help and advice and they’re posting on AIBU for traffic. Quite right!

Most of the ‘feminist’ topics that appear on here are thinly disguised criticisms of trans people.

Yes we know you think trans women are men and should be treated as such at all times. Not everyone agrees with you and we don’t want to keep reading it on here.

Having said that they’re easy enough to ignore? I wouldn’t bother complaining about them. But you were asking about why some get moved and some don’t. So that’s what I think about why.

thinly disguised criticisms of trans people.

I'm not trying to be difficult but how is an impact of a lobby group that misstates the law and impacts women's right 'a thinly disguised criticism of trans people?' Unless you do not believe that women should have sex based rights?

I have no criticism of trans people so long as they do not infringe on women's sex based rights.

Stonewall are to blame for this for inaccurately reflecting the laws. Save your ire for them.

Not caught up sorry just read the last few posts.

I can't understand why anyone, especially a woman, would have no issue with the situation with prisons. Or maybe what's happening with sports.

That I just don't get. Everyone I know in real life thinks it's terrible. (The ones that have raised it- I don't irl)

Yes we know you think trans women are men and should be treated as such at all times.
If that's what you think the argument is, then you really aren't listening at all. Sex and gender are messy and complicated things. We need an honest and respectful discussion about them so we can work out a way forward to support trans people and women alike.
Airily misrepresenting discussions on FWR gets us absolutely bloody nowhere.

One of the things I like about MN is if a post doesn't interest you you can just hide it. So simple. As far as AIBU goes, its a bit like the room of requirements isn't it? There's a really triggering thread that should be in Relationships, but I'm not AIBU police so I just stopped reading it. Easily done.

I don't think you'll get much from this thread though OP if its been derailed by people who think you hate trans people or "literally don't want them to exist" because when you talk about women you mean female people.

are you reporting every covid thread and complaining it should be moved to the coronavirus board?

Yes. I'm bored rigid with seeing it, and sick to death of the neighbourhood prefects. However ...

There's no reason why some of the material on FWR shouldn't receive broader traffic though and I've also noted they are the ones more likely to be booted back into their corner. In fact, one was moved back to AIBU when the OP and others posting on the thread picked up on the issue and made a complaint.

It's a pattern I've noticed too. YANBU.

Many of the covid ones are moved, you're just choosing to see it as only the ones you are interested in. And yes, I reported that last thread, glad it was moved

Totally agree. This isn’t a feminist issue - it’s a whole society issue. The silent majority agrees with logic, science, and reality

Well quite. Its a definite health issue. If statistics are based on gender and not sex , rates of sex specific illnesses and death rates will appear to drop and as a result lose funding for research merely by including members of the opposite sex. That doesn't benefit anyone. Akd affects everyone.

@DynamoKev

MNHQ point blank refused to move ANY Brexit thread to the Brexit board unless OP asked (fat chance) as a PP said see also coronavirus threads - MN is very selective about what gets moved

but that was because of the huge amount of people that complained that three (yes three) clicks with the mouse was to much for them and that the Brexit board was hidden away.

@toconclude

Translation: " I want to post transphobic shite so that people who would rather avoid it have it pushed at them, and call it feminism to get a free pass"

Exactly this

I completely agree OP, the double standards are ridiculous - half of the threads in AIBU belong somewhere else and they never seem to get moved it's only ever the FWR ones.

If MNHQ could offer a good explanation for this, I think many of us would appreciate this.

I can't understand why anyone, especially a woman, would have no issue with the situation with prisons. Or maybe what's happening with sports.

That I just don't get. Everyone I know in real life thinks it's terrible. (The ones that have raised it- I don't irl)

Has it not occurred to you that there are people who use this site for light relief, a bit of entertainment, maybe help out with something they might have a bit of knowledge of. Who don't want to read about FWR on here.

People use this site for different reasons. Is that not OK?