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To think Boris should not have been married in Westmister Cathedral?

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buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 14:19

Divorced people are not allowed to be married in a Catholic church. Boris Johnson has been married twice before. His first marriage was annulled, so the church does not count. But his second marriage does count. So he should never have been allowed to marry in a Catholic Cathedral.

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Rewis · 30/05/2021 16:16

@giletrouge

This is simply because he is Prime Minister and is totally hypocritical of the church. And is this the first time you've noticed your church is hypocritical? Because you've got some ride ahead if you keep looking critically from now on...
My thoughts exactly 😅
merrymouse · 30/05/2021 16:22

There is no comparison between a 2 year childless marriage and a 25 year marriage that resulted in 4 children.

Also, neither Harry nor Meghan were married when they met.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 30/05/2021 16:24

One positive note for MumsNet a mecca for parents is that our choice political leader seems to have much passion for children. If only he knew how many exactly and if any are born according to faith or any religious expectations, Roman Catholic or otherwise? This will be perplexing and uncomfortable if truly religious in a world with much diversity of beliefs.

Izzy24 · 30/05/2021 16:34

An Anglican Church wedding is recognised by the Catholic Church as a valid wedding.

Civil weddings are not recognised.

KateTheEighth · 30/05/2021 16:36

Meghan and Harry weren't married in a Catholic Church Confused

Winter2020 · 30/05/2021 16:36

23buggerbuggery

QUOTE @Aquamarine1029 because some of us are Catholics? This is not a private matter. It is about church rules.

So what's with the user name then? Not very holy is it? (It's pretty offensive and I'm not religious at all - although it is ironically apt of course)

Your user name suggests to me you are more concerned about hating on Borris than offending Mother Mary?

ufucoffee · 30/05/2021 16:39

I don't care.

MissyB1 · 30/05/2021 16:45

Hang on a second did someone say Harry and Meghan had a Catholic wedding??? Did they?! Mind blown 🤯

Diamondnights · 30/05/2021 16:49

[quote buggerbuggery]@Diamondnights But that is not true. The Catholic Church does recognise Protestant marriages.
If Boris Johnson's previous marriages had been gathering in a stone circle and both parties jumping over a broom, then the Catholic Church would not have recognised that as marriage. But it does recognise Protestant marriages.
The newspapers are lying.[/quote]
It recognises them but doesn't mind them being dissolved. Church rules, not mine.

DentonsFringeArnottsWaistcoat · 30/05/2021 16:49

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

The disrespect to his second wife and the children of that marriage is off the scale.
Is that the second wife who was happy to have an affair with him whilst he was still married to the first wife? I’d say she knew what was coming tbh.
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2021 16:56

Yes, she probably did. The children didn't.

SultanOfSwing · 30/05/2021 16:58

@buggerbuggery, I believe the loophole came because Boris was baptised as a Catholic and therefore his previous marriage was invalid because as a Catholic he could not have a valid marriage outside the Catholic Church. Therefore this new marriage is entirely within the rules.

DentonsFringeArnottsWaistcoat · 30/05/2021 17:02

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Yes, she probably did. The children didn't.
They’re all adults, I’m sure they know his history.
DuckonaBike · 30/05/2021 17:04

Seems a little weird for a twice divorced serial adulterer and father of an unspecified number of illegitimate children to get married anywhere, never mind in a Catholic church.

KateMuff · 30/05/2021 17:04

The Catholic Church is always loyal to its masters: money and power. Jimmy Saville was a Catholic Knight fgs, this is literally nothing compared to their horrific behaviour towards women, children and minorities. This is hypocrisy not abuse and murder.

LadyWhistledownsPen · 30/05/2021 17:06

Guess I'm a massive sinner then and will surely meet the bad man himself on my demise. I'm divorced and re-married and shock horror I had a child outside wedlock!!

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 30/05/2021 17:08

@MissyB1

Hang on a second did someone say Harry and Meghan had a Catholic wedding??? Did they?! Mind blown 🤯
Didn’t Megan famously have to convert to CofE so they could marry? Nothing to do with the church more the rule about heirs to the throne & catholics.
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buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:12

@Winter2020

23buggerbuggery

QUOTE @Aquamarine1029 because some of us are Catholics? This is not a private matter. It is about church rules.

So what's with the user name then? Not very holy is it? (It's pretty offensive and I'm not religious at all - although it is ironically apt of course)

Your user name suggests to me you are more concerned about hating on Borris than offending Mother Mary?

My user name is because I am having a VERY hard time and trying not to let it out in real life with my children. And trust me, plenty of Catholics swear.
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TeacupDrama · 30/05/2021 17:12

Harry and Meghan were married at St Georges Chapel Windsor which is C of E ( the chapel I believe is called aRoyal peculiar) both the marriage and the sermon were by Anglicans called C of E here and Anglican in USA but still the same as C of E not catholic

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2021 17:13

Of course his children know his history. What's that got to do with anything?

The situation appears to be that Johnson was baptised into the Catholic church but decided later on it was socially more acceptable to be C of E. Now he's married a Catholic he's rediscovered his roots. The fact that this requires him to act as though his previous two marriages never happened and the four children of his second marriage were not the product of a valid marriage is neither here nor there. They get treated like the one he tried to hide with a superinjunction.

The man has the morals of an alleycat and his behaviour as a father is abysmal. If my daughter suggested marrying someone with his record I'd be aghast.

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buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:14

[quote SultanOfSwing]@buggerbuggery, I believe the loophole came because Boris was baptised as a Catholic and therefore his previous marriage was invalid because as a Catholic he could not have a valid marriage outside the Catholic Church. Therefore this new marriage is entirely within the rules.[/quote]
Maybe, I am VERY pissed off about it.

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TeacupDrama · 30/05/2021 17:14

Plenty of Catholics do swear but it is still not offically allowed especially blasphemy but life is tough everyone messes up ( sins theologically) and there is forgiveness if there is repentance

MercyBooth · 30/05/2021 17:16

I was brought up as Catholic but havent practised for years. When DH and i got married in 1998 we asked the priest if he would marry us. He said no and that we couldnt get married in the CC because of DHs previous ONE marriage in a REGISTRY OFFICE. If Boris and co. were hoping this would be a "dead cat" they have misjudged it badly. Because its just another example of rules for thee and not for me which we have always had from them but has been on steroids throughout this whole pandemic. (i wasnt bothered whether we got married in a CC or not. We asked about it to keep DM happy) We married in a registry office in September 98.

cricketmum84 · 30/05/2021 17:17

Seriously OP why do you even give a shiny shite?

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buggerbuggery · 30/05/2021 17:19

Harry and Meghan did not get married in a Catholic service. It was CofE.

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