To think Boris should not have been married in Westmister Cathedral?

[buggerbuggery]

Divorced people are not allowed to be married in a Catholic church. Boris Johnson has been married twice before. His first marriage was annulled, so the church does not count. But his second marriage does count. So he should never have been allowed to marry in a Catholic Cathedral.

I'm surprised you're getting such a hard time, OP. I agree with you. It's disrespectful and grim.

@Greentrianglesarethebestones Thanks. I would not care if they had a blessing and a registry office wedding.

@Spanglybangles

According to the article I read earlier, the Catholic Church will allow it as long as the previous marriages did not take place in a Catholic Church. So as long as that wasn’t the case, all is well.

I wasn't allowed. It's one rule for some...

OP have you really not noticed the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church till now??

It was explained in The Times this morning. Because the previous marriages were not done as sacraments of the Catholic Church, this one could be. Both people are baptised catholics and they live in the parish. I'm sure the Catholic Church would not have performed the service (in the Lady Chapel) if it had not been within Catholic law (which does change).

Never mind where he got married. He can’t even be honest about how many children he has fathered! How many is it now ...., 5? 6?

Must be lovely to grow up knowing your father is PM, has just had another baby and is getting married in Westminster Abbey. Yet, he decided to deny your existence in case it interfered with his career. Lovely.

@Diamondnights But that is not true. The Catholic Church does recognise Protestant marriages.
If Boris Johnson's previous marriages had been gathering in a stone circle and both parties jumping over a broom, then the Catholic Church would not have recognised that as marriage. But it does recognise Protestant marriages.
The newspapers are lying.

@Greentrianglesarethebestones

I'm surprised you're getting such a hard time, OP. I agree with you. It's disrespectful and grim.

Disrespectful and grim to whom or what? Previous wives? - that ship sailed already. The church? - is itself a disrespectful and grim institution.

It’s not a new rule. I’m a 40 year old Catholic and have always known that marriages outside the church don’t count.

I’ve known a few people who’ve been married in a civil ceremony and divorced who’ve been able to be married in the church, over a period of about thirty years in multiple dioceses.

Perhaps it’s applied differently in different dioceses if people are having the opposite experience. But certainly nothing about this was surprising or curious to me.

@MissTrip82 Then why do multiple Catholic websites say this is not possible?

Unless he had an annulment for his second marriage as well?

@Aquamarine1029

All of the horrific, unspeakable things the Catholic Church is responsible for and/or has turned a blind eye to, and you're concerned about this? Really?

This ^

YANBU at all OP. I find it quite distasteful to suggest that either of his previous marriages “do not count” particularly when one of them resulted in four children. Not to mention that it’s a slap in the face for the many Catholics who have not been allowed to remarry as they are clearly not important/influential enough.

The fact that none of this is a surprise because Boris is involved is neither here nor there really.

I am more interesting in what he is trying to divert our attention away from, but who would you complain to
The Pope?

Archbishop of Westminster?

However if I was planning on getting married in a church now and they said I couldn't I would be demanding to know how come Johnson could

Email the pope, he might be a bit more interest in it

This was explained this morning on the Radio 4 religious programme called Sunday:

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000wjd7

The relevant part is just after 1 minute in.

I'm guessing neither Carrie nor Johnson have ever troubled their tumbling locks with even such basics as the ten commandments, so a minor quibble over where they can demand to get married is barely a blip. Must be lovely for his children to know their parents marriage didn't count. It certainly didn't for him.

Trying to keep clear of anything political here, because god knows we have enough of those threads, but this is just another example of him insulting the public once again, and especially those who do keep to their faith & its teachings (I disagree massively with RC faith, and have none myself, but try to be respectful of those who do).

I didn't think Westminster WAS catholic. Their are Church of England Royal weddings, funerals and coronations there.

And given the reason the Church of England was founded, I really doubt they mind.

@ginoclocksomewhere

I didn't think Westminster WAS catholic. Their are Church of England Royal weddings, funerals and coronations there.

And given the reason the Church of England was founded, I really doubt they mind.

*There 🙄

nauticant That is a lie.
If true it means everyone who is a catholic can remarry as long as the other person is not a catholic.

I thought Westminster was a CofE cathedral?

You're not realising that Westminster Cathedral and Westminster Abbey are two different places. (I only realised this recently after a Catholic friend of DW dragged us to the Cathedral recently.)

I would say the Catholic Church has more to concern itself with, wouldn’t you? And yet, all anyone can talk about is how awful it is they allowed Boris & Carrie to be married in Westminster Cathedral

ginoclocksomewhere
Westminster Abbey is CoE
Westminister Cathedral is Catholic

So they had a CofE marriage? Yes that is allowed.

Ahhh, misread- ow the thread makes sense 😂 (I have somehow read 'abbey' instead of 'cathedral' in the posts and the news article I read 🤔 🤦🏼‍♀️)