To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

[Bassarid]

Is it just me?

Great post cornettoninja, it's very true and something I hadn't really considered, having a child made me reevaluate my childhood and drove the fear of God into me. I had this tiny person to protect and I saw danger everywhere. God forbid anyone who parked on a pavement where I needed to get the pram past. I was a demon. Lol

So obviously for Harry his childhood and the painful loss of his mum will have been all mixed up in that.

Well whatever happens with H&M in the future, we now know one thing for absolutely sure - they will never, ever become working royals again. They went all in on burning any remaining bridges and so now they are truly going to have to do whatever they can to make pots of money without the safety net of ever returning to the UK or getting any funding from the RF.

There will always be an open door at least for for Harry even if it's on a non-working Prince Andrew type basis.

Multiple palaces to skulk round while effectively maintained on the public dime. Similar really to the Duke of Windsor who also bleated endlessly to his brother about inadequate funding.

@Rinoachicken

I just wish, really wish, they had waited even ONE more year before getting engaged. It would have given them more time to get to know each other, more time, more time for her and the RF to get to know each other, more tome for her to get used to the UK, more time for her learn what would be involved and to decide if it was the life she really wanted.

There was a reason William made Kate wait ten YEARS, and it wasn’t just because he wanted the option to ‘explore elsewhere’. It was because he saw first hand how totally unprepared his mother was and wanted to try and make sure Kate was very much prepared and eyes wide open before saying ‘yes’.

H&M just got swept along in the love and romance of it all, rushed down the aisle and didn’t allow either of them the time they really needed to lay and ensure the solid foundations a relationship/marriage in the public eye would require.

H&M just got swept along in the love and romance of it all, rushed down the aisle and didn’t allow either of them the time they really needed to lay and ensure the solid foundations a relationship/marriage in the public eye would require.

It was basically an extended holiday romance.

When they got engaged, they'd only known each other for about a year, lived on different continents and probably had never spent more than a week or two at a time in each other's company. Anyone can be on their best behaviour in that kind of relationship.

And yet when William (supposedly) told him to take his time getting to know her, Harry freaked out. William was right.

Blind gossip is pretty brutal.
I really hope it's wrong :( but I can't see any of this ending that well.

Is Archewell.global the official IG page for Archewell?

And yet when William (supposedly) told him to take his time getting to know her, Harry freaked out. William was right.

I am assuming that his old friends who have also disappeared met the same fate for the same reason - he didn’t like what they were advising.

An ‘if you’re not with us you’re against us’ sort of thing

H&M just got swept along in the love and romance of it all, rushed down the aisle and didn’t allow either of them the time they really needed to lay and ensure the solid foundations a relationship/marriage in the public eye would require

I've been saying this from the start, and it's one of the reasons I don't just blame Meghan for the mess that's followed; after all he was the one with the inside track and a small amoeba could have foreseen some of the consequences

I also agree about their co-dependency, but suspect Mehgan's suicidal ideas have altered the balance somewhat. The spectre's well and truly out of the cupboard now and the thought of him "losing another woman" plainly stated, so now Harry knows that any further unhappiness his wife experiences could bring it right back

Not an easy thought to live with, and again, something which is usually dealt with pretty robustly on Relationship threads ...

That’s the first time I’ve ever managed to get a ‘bold’ to work!!!

Sorry, as you were!

For the first time in his life, since his mother died, Harry has found someone who has understood and loved him 'unconditionally'.

After years of people 'not getting him' this is mind blowing for Harry.

The problem is, whether consciously or unconsciously, Meghan doesn't have his best interests at heart. She is fuelling the very worst of his nature. His paranoia, his suspicion, his victim hood.

I think he is fundamentally a good person but damaged. He met the wrong person at the wrong time.

I think Harry was just desperate to settle down & have children.

They knew each other a couple of years before they married which for a couple in their 30s is probably usual.

But they way not have spent much time together which is the "problem".

He's quickly gone from most popular royal to not so much.

I wonder if Meghan is only just learning about the Bashir/BBC scandal. You know, the interview she said she'd never heard of during the interview with Oprah.

@ohforarainyday

But they've been pretty much on the nose all the way through.

Not sure if I'd be taking a website that claims you can't buy avocados in Britain as gospel, personally.

Says someone who refers us to Twitter and Lipstick Alley as reliable sources.

I agree veilo.

Are we going to have another thread after this? It's filling up fast.

@diddl

I think Harry was just desperate to settle down & have children.

They knew each other a couple of years before they married which for a couple in their 30s is probably usual.

But they way not have spent much time together which is the "problem".

I agree that relationships move faster at that stage of life, especially if you want children. But still getting engaged a year - or a year and a half tops, and then only long distance - after meeting someone is moving very fast indeed. Especially given that they had no mutual friends and came from completely different backgrounds.

It's amazing to think that 5 years ago, Harry probably didn't know that Rachel Meghan Markle existed.

He's quickly gone from most popular royal to not so much

He's just showing us who he's always been.

Entirely forseeable once he lost the services of those expensive palace spin doctors although even they couldn't always put a lid on his nazi uniform excesses.

@diddl

I think Harry was just desperate to settle down & have children.

They knew each other a couple of years before they married which for a couple in their 30s is probably usual.

But they way not have spent much time together which is the "problem".

I agree it was the biological clock for both of them. I fully understand that. In their shoes I would have wanted to get ttc quickly, and for royals that meant getting married first. But I also agree about the limited time spent together and associated problems.

"What about " my dh is changing since he became a dad, he's realising how he was treated when younger now he's abandoned dad himself and he thinks some things where really cruel."

But she could at least advise him against talking about it in public to make money?

Well, maybe she is but he's not listening...

I think it is totally wrong to label Meghan as 'a narc'.

People keep saying that she's in it for the money.

But part of me is thinking-what money?

Sure he's worth a bit-but nothing for the lifestyle that seems to be wanted.

@Roussette

I think it is totally wrong to label Meghan as 'a narc'.

Well, since there have been many declarations of how no one's posting links or proof of anything anymore, because no one believes it unless they already believed it anyway, welcome to the wonderful world of 'everyone has an opinion, no one's is more valid'. You are perfectly free to think that. Others' opinions may vary.

I haven't said I'm not posting links anymore. Just not today, if it's OK with you.

So you think it's OK to just label someone like that? Really? It wouldn't happen on MN with anyone else well known.
Awful.

@Roussette

I haven't said I'm not posting links anymore. Just not today, if it's OK with you.

So you think it's OK to just label someone like that? Really? It wouldn't happen on MN with anyone else well known.
Awful.

Report it then. It’s what the entire internet is saying.

So no one's called any of the other royals, or their staff, anything? Come off it. And plenty of other well known people. I believe you are well acquainted with the Trump threads. He's been called plenty of things. I don't necessarily disagree in his case, but don't say it doesn't happen.