Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

[debbrianna]

I was reading a thread earlier and constant use of the word Dubai in association with influencers has grown so much. However, no one really mentions who pays for these trips. During lockdown the running jokes about Dubai was rife regarding influencers.
I have also read about people duped in going thinking it was with friends on holiday and it all goes wrong.

Not longer ago, lots of people were being paid by wealthy men or companies to fly of to Dubai on party yachts. A few documentaries on YouTube pointed towards prostitution. Some of the most vile and dehumanising things happened to some of them.

ONLYFANS is full of people flying off to Dubia and this set alarm bells ringing for me. AIBU for thinking this?

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@apalledandshocked Apologies if I came across as making this a brown v white it wasn't my intention.

The difference between the glamour and the reality makes me think women are being duped.
They are being bombarded by all the positive media and if there is an agenda (as PP said there can't be that many scat fetishists coincidentally) it needs some countering.

@EmeraldShamrock

Search Pattaya on YouTube: mainly pretty young girls and ageing obese baldies. 🤢 I worked in a transport company 20 years ago there was a group of smelly overweight men in their late 50's who saved hard for the 4 week trips to Thailand every year.

Oh yes, the dirty grandad flights, as they are known in the airline industry. The crew maybe smiling at you love, but they all know what a disgusting piece of shit you really are.

I have no vested interest in 'defending' Dubai, but as someone who has lived and worked here both as a single, 20-something woman, and now with my young family, a very sizeable chunk of what you see and read, is simply hyperbole.

So tell me where are the white maids? Where are the white men on building sites? What colour(s) are your children's teachers?

Back in the early 1990s I had a friend who was brought up in South Africa, she said she had never really noticed any racism. That was probably true, she lived on a farm out side a city and never saw a school for black children or the limits on their education.

If you are in an ivory tower you can't rely on what you see from your window.

The sex industry reaches all corners of the globe and it has for a millennia. Instagram influencers who may be getting paid for sex are just cashing in on when celebrities were paid for sex and probably still are. sex is one of the oldest commodities. Nothing new here.

My dd1 works in Dubai, she is respected and works really bloody hard at her job. I used to travel to see her quite a bit but obviously I've not been able to get over because of the pandemic. We are travelling out there for xmas and I can't wait.

I gathered there are also grandma flights to the Gambia amongst others destinations too. This commoditisation of humans is more complex and multifaceted impacting all creeds, colours and genders including gender fluid as famous in Thailand etc. The common human denominator is the imbalance of power and control via wealth disparity or greed and sick mindlessness. It matter not if you are royalty or a former president etc as this just means you can afford a more discerning service and guarantee protection from justice. It's not modern slavery if there is an agree arrangement and voluntary. I imagine selling one's soul is possibly a cut above organ harvesting etc. It does though offers an insight into much fame and fortune as the reality celebrity media and mainstream movies is just an acceptable face of the porn and weird drugs and plastic surgery stuff that goes on behind the scenes. Those Oscars must have taken much more effort than simply casting according to media mogul prerequisite personal requirements just to make the short list and possibly future fame and fortune. How many failed actors doing waitressing jumping on the new personal direct multiple layer media marketing bandwagons rabbit hole? This is just another Ponzi scheme variant. Some label themselves insta models others YouTube vbloggers. They probably are all just advertising other service options for the right price as it's just the latest supply and on demand monetisation trend of the oldest game in town! I am just trying to understand what's with the ultra extreme non vanilla stuff like animals etc and can this disease be eradicated? Mind and headspace blowing.

@steakandcheeseplease

This is what makes me uncomfortable, steak.

Women, young women who are starting out on their careers are colliding with men who partake in this world and the lines are getting blurred. This happens in the UK, too and other European countries that I have lived in but now, because it is more overt, normalised and socially sold as a preferable option to benefits/low status roles, it is difficult to feel as though there are clear cut boundaries. There is a very famous hotel in London that I have had dinner with a friend in and I ocassionally go for coffee on my own in the bar. Its quiet, very relaxing and a calm atmosphere and yet when I mentioned it to a friend, her bf made a comment about hookers, etc. To me, there is still that talking down or framing of normal activity with no underlying sexual motive being conflated, deliberately with more nefarious activity, in order to erode women's sense of well being, agency and autonomy.

This really troubles me as I have lived in countries where I have heard men make comments about fairly innocent behaviour that they then imbue with a lack of values and standards that they have gleaned from the kind of sexualised material they absorb. Cognitive dissonance? But they can put girls and women in vulnerable positions based on those assumptions.

I'd assume linked in with the porta potty stuff.

group of smelly overweight men in their 50s
dirty grandad/grandma flights
ageing obese baldies
We need to bust a few stereotypes here. There isn't a stereotypical abuser of vulnerable adults - mainly women, of course - and children. They are all someone's son, brother, father, husband, boyfriend, colleague, neighbour, boss. They are represented in all ages, weights and looks.

pay some poor woman 50 quid for a BJ
From 5 quid, even here in the UK.

@MrsMackesy

group of smelly overweight men in their 50s dirty grandad/grandma flights ageing obese baldies We need to bust a few stereotypes here. There isn't a stereotypical abuser of vulnerable adults - mainly women, of course - and children. They are all someone's son, brother, father, husband, boyfriend, colleague, neighbour, boss. They are represented in all ages, weights and looks.

pay some poor woman 50 quid for a BJ
From 5 quid, even here in the UK.

Bit pointless response, but one of the most depressing 10 seconds of my life was being offered a £5 BJ from a homeless woman as I crossed Tottenham Court Road at 3pm in the afternoon. So fucking depressing an experience for me, no concept of how depressing it must be for her.

@JediGnot so sad isn't it

It isn’t legal to do these things in the UK though.

Still very restricted to one area though I think.