Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

[debbrianna]

I was reading a thread earlier and constant use of the word Dubai in association with influencers has grown so much. However, no one really mentions who pays for these trips. During lockdown the running jokes about Dubai was rife regarding influencers.
I have also read about people duped in going thinking it was with friends on holiday and it all goes wrong.

Not longer ago, lots of people were being paid by wealthy men or companies to fly of to Dubai on party yachts. A few documentaries on YouTube pointed towards prostitution. Some of the most vile and dehumanising things happened to some of them.

ONLYFANS is full of people flying off to Dubia and this set alarm bells ringing for me. AIBU for thinking this?

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@QueenOfPain

Rich men pay them loads of money to shit on them.

wtf how am I 30 and not know about this?!

@BilboBercow

All of the male influencers are going too. Are they also engaged in prostitution?

Would not surprise me. There have been rumours for a while regarding one or two male Hollywood actors.

I wasn't aware of any of this but it's people with money everywhere, imo, and it's utterly disgusting. There's been quite a few documentaries on US, British and other European men going to developing countries and sleeping with/exploiting underage girls. That's a massive problem too and the girls don't get the jet set lifestyle at the end (at best they get an old fart with perhaps a comfortable lifestyle and treated like a cooker, cleaner and a sex worker in one for the rest of their lives if they marry them), having had their own families push them to to it at the prospect of money.

I'm not saying the money these people going to Dubai get makes it better because it really doesn't, money really can be the root of evil and I shan't think about what else might be going on. However, are these "influencers" doing this all out of choice for that money or going in a bit blindly? Yes, there are people who are rich and enjoying sadist behaviour, however, if you're aware and willing to go through with that for money, I just feel mostly sad about how those people have been conditioned to want to chase money to that degree themselves that they will agree to be shat on. I haven't done my research because I can't stomach it but I tried to think of how much I'd want for someone to treat me like that and there's literally no money you could offer me to do it. That kind of thing stays with you forever (unless you're genuinely into it all yourself) and it must be so hard to get out of your mind as a PP said.

Christ. How is this better than just having a normal job and going to work?

Dubai is not a place I would want to visit -their treatment migrant workers and women. I cannot understand the appeal at all.

@Palavah

Wealthy emiratis certainly used to invite young women to 'parties', and these young women received plenty of gifts to thank them for their attendance. I'm sure that won't have stopped.

That happens all over the world & always has. Parties with hired hostess girls. You don't have to go to Dubai for that, it happens in London!

I didn't know about porta potties which I associate with outdoor events and camping. I'd have thought they would have had proper plumbing in Dubai, it's a modern, sophisticated place.

Not literal portaloos. It's slang for women being subjected to being used as a toilet, for someone else's sexual gratification

I take back my comment regarding consent and them agreeing to do it because I did just read something which suggested those with booking information on their pages and flying off to Dubai regularly are potentially getting booked via someone else and sometimes being pimped out

@PottingCompost

Not literal portaloos. It's slang for women being subjected to being used as a toilet, for someone else's sexual gratification

Oh no, that is seriously gross! Ugh.

@OldEnoughToBeYourMum

I take back my comment regarding consent and them agreeing to do it because I did just read something which suggested those with booking information on their pages and flying off to Dubai regularly are potentially getting booked via someone else and sometimes being pimped out

Against their will? I mean, threatened, forced? That s trafficking. I've no doubt it does go on there as it does everywhere but most of these parties are staffed by people hired for the purpose of 'hostessing', for which they are quite well paid.

Wtf did I just read!????

@JeanClaudeVanDammit

Christ. How is this better than just having a normal job and going to work?

I would certainly prefer going to work, as long as I enjoyed my work, however hostesses can earn an awful lot more money than in an ordinary job, meaning they can afford to pick and choose their jobs, work at their leisure, and part time. That is the attraction.

Trafficking is a different matter; that is purely prostitution and the young women involved are little more than slaves. A lot of that goes on with Eastern European girls being conned into coming here or going to the States with the promise of a good job and better life. If they are pretty they end up, with other girls, working as prostitutes and having little of the proceeds, controlled by the Russian mafia. If they are not particularly physically attractive they will be hired out for some sort of manual work. It's a horrible business.

"meaning they can afford to pick and choose their jobs"

... and they sure know how to pick em

Wtf did I just read

I should not have googled porta potties. I will never unknow it. But frankly, I should be surprised. Was once in a good respectable hotel in Japan. Open the room brochure and among the tourist map was info on such services.

@OldEnoughToBeYourMum Few influencers might go on their own will but am sure many will be tricked into it. And sometimes the press here is complicit. Several times I have seen article about influencers/bloggers going around the world with rich men and paid to party. They hide the ugliness and young girls get caught up. Very sad

I wish I hadn't opened that link! I had NO idea such disgusting actions took place anywhere. It has really made me sick to the stomach, which is quite unlike me.

however hostesses can earn an awful lot more money than in an ordinary job, meaning they can afford to pick and choose their jobs, work at their leisure, and part time. That is the attraction.

I’m not sure hostesses is an accurate description if the stuff in those links is remotely true. I don’t think there’s any suggestion these women are being trafficked into it either, although others will be.

There’s a link within that Travelling Jezebel article to an article about the enslavement of migrant workers. Read also Johann Hari’s article for the Independent years ago. That’s worse imo. At least the girls are consenting to what happens to them.

Dubai is a very grim place. We can all do our bit towards stopping these practices by never going there.

Long before there were ‘influencers’ (1970s) I knew of parties in Bahrain to which cabin crew were invited. I knew someone who was given cash and presents just for attending, but it was pretty clear that a lot more cash would be given for extra ‘services’ if anyone was willing. She wasn’t, and declined any more such invitations.

Not long afterwards I met a bloke who’d been staying in a Bahrain hotel on business. There was a girl on her own in the bar who he thought seemed oddly distracted, wondered whether she was all right and started talking to her. She soon burst out with, I’ve just got to tell someone.’ After one such crew party she had agreed to just a night or two with a Bahraini VIP, and had come away with £30k. At the time it was enough to buy a nice house in the SE of the U.K.

My DD is on the International Teaching circuit and I dread the thought of the M. E. She is also a science teacher and does the sex Ed (gulp)
She also has 2DDs(5&4).

I think it is like anywhere in the world, if you want to go looking for certain things you can find them. In that same thought if you want to go Dubai/the Emirates and have a totally family friendly holiday and not come across it you could in the same way that you could in London or Tokyo or where ever.

But yes I do agree that the low grade celebrities/non influencer influencers were in Dubai for ‘gifted’ experiences which amounted to prostitution.

It’s just desperately sad that they seem to be lying to their fans who might be younger about what their life opportunities are rather than them openly saying they are paid for sex and x y z are the dangers etc.

Did not realise this was a thing

Another day, yet another Dubai-bashing threat, with the usual crap trotted out.

The Johann Hari piece for the Independent that everyone loves to quote is 9 years old.

I have no vested interest in 'defending' Dubai, but as someone who has lived and worked here both as a single, 20-something woman, and now with my young family, a very sizeable chunk of what you see and read, is simply hyperbole.

Some of you are really showing yourselves up as ignorant, gullible and at worst, racist.

I dread the thought of the ME For fucks sake, really?

You only have to see the types who go there to know its the newest Marbella. I think a lot of the seedy side is hidden in plain sight under the cover of it being in a religious part of the world. Wayne Lineker is opening a new bar there. Says it all really.

As someone who was in Monaco last summer I can confirm that it hasn't completely all moved to Dubai.