Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

[debbrianna]

I was reading a thread earlier and constant use of the word Dubai in association with influencers has grown so much. However, no one really mentions who pays for these trips. During lockdown the running jokes about Dubai was rife regarding influencers.
I have also read about people duped in going thinking it was with friends on holiday and it all goes wrong.

Not longer ago, lots of people were being paid by wealthy men or companies to fly of to Dubai on party yachts. A few documentaries on YouTube pointed towards prostitution. Some of the most vile and dehumanising things happened to some of them.

ONLYFANS is full of people flying off to Dubia and this set alarm bells ringing for me. AIBU for thinking this?

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@PrimeraVez Actually, far from restoring the reputation of Dubai, you are very much part of the problem and among the privileged people that lived on the backs of thousands of migrant workers living in appalling conditions. Just because you chose to ignore all of the massive human rights violations, does not make you a credible and decent person.

if you see an influencer with the pin drop sign at the side of their bio its usually a sign they're available for paid sex in he country they're visiting .

lots of celebrities do it too, many models also. A very wealthy client of my husband has paid 2 well known women for their services.

It's a dangerous place to get into trouble with the law , they are so incredibly vulnerable out there.

I can't believe what I saw on the porta potty party, I clicked the video for 4 seconds my eyeballs are traumatised.
Nothing in the world is worth that.

Honestly? Yes. That's not to say that some influencers don't engage in prostitution but I think the most reasonable explanation is that Dubai is the new Marbella/Ibiza/fashionable destination. This year it was one of the few places open for business tourism wise and its quite affordable.

Influencers need to do glamorous holidays in order to look aspirational and sell a lifestyle.

It is harder to hide now.

There's nothing new about any of this, it has always gone on and always will.

*appalledandshocked: Stag party in Amsterdam?
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Or hen party in Amsterdam, I understand the cakes are quite nice there.

Or, just find somewhere close by online - like ordering a pizza envy
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That sounds about my level :-).

Oh goodness I now feel that I will google 'porta potty party' to watch those four seconds. If I don't return you'll know I've fainted.

Later: I haven't looked at any video and don't want to but I found this:
travellingjezebel.com/dubai-porta-potty/

Ugh! However I have heard of such things before, just not in Dubai.

"porta potty party"

As if scat doesn't happen in UK. There's a huge sex industry here we surely don't think it's all vanilla...? UK is a place where everyone can "see" what happens overseas but not under their own noses

Aye Dee scat happens (should be a bumper sticker) but this is scat + defiling western women, to my eye anyway.
If that's part of the scene then awareness is important.
The glossy lifestyle stuff is enticing especially to youngsters, the risks need light.

Ime just reading about it is enough for it to get head space, what does taking part do?

The RAF were stationed in Bahrain in 1990 (Gulf war) DH was regularly propostioned by everyone from taxi drivers up. One guy apparently had a brand new Mercedes shipped home, for his ‘services’.
If you were Ginger, you were highly sought after, something to do with a coming Prophet being red headed and pale skinned.

Air crews stayed at the Hilton, where DH was, ( we still have a couple of towels the blondes were never short of Arab men’s company.

Ime just reading about it is enough for it to get head space, what does taking part do?

I’m struggling with that, too. I mean, fair enough if it’s your own fetish but eating shit/being shat on for money is something that would be hard to come to terms with.

I wish I hadn’t googled!

It seems unlikely that all of the men partying in those particular circumstances have that particular fetish, more that they just get off on the degradation of women.

@Maggiesfarm

I didn't know that about Bahrain, Lowland.

I wonder where UK men who want to do those things, flock? I daresay they don't have to flock far here.

They'll go as far as necessary to find young desperate women and girls in poverty if they can get the airfare together.

E.g Bangkok, Thailand.

Search Pattaya on YouTube: mainly pretty young girls and ageing obese baldies.

Can we not turn this into a "brown men defiling white women" thing? I agree that the scat thing is probably mostly about degrading/power play. But actually most forms of sex work are about that - I know others will disagree but I think the transactional nature of it - Wealthy man pays (usually) less well-off woman for sex/to send nudes/etc etc is inherently about degredation. The scat thing is disgusting, but so is Fred, driving 30 miles up the M4 to pay some poor woman 50 quid for a BJ. Its all about paying someone to do something that the payee knows they wouldnt want to do otherwise - thats part of the attraction.

What is marked about the Dubai thing is that this is the supposedly glamorous end of the business - women that are (comparitvely) privileged and have (at least on the surface) more choices and free agency than the vast majority of sex workers. And it is still grim as fuck beneath the surface. And the opposite of empowering.

Search Pattaya on YouTube: mainly pretty young girls and ageing obese baldies. 🤢
I worked in a transport company 20 years ago there was a group of smelly overweight men in their late 50's who saved hard for the 4 week trips to Thailand every year.

Er my last post was the polar opposite of brown men defiling white women.

@DeeCeeCherry

"porta potty party"

As if scat doesn't happen in UK. There's a huge sex industry here we surely don't think it's all vanilla...? UK is a place where everyone can "see" what happens overseas but not under their own noses

I agree. I do think increased globalisation+the internet+ the economy has made an already grim industry nastier, faster, more profitable across the board though. At the same time though - it is being pushed as being empowering in a way it wasnt before. Dubai/instagram/OF connections are more obvious because people are posting about their trips. Most sex workers arent being paid thousands of pounds to fly to Dubai - so in lots of ways you can say that they arent represenative. That this is happening to women who are probably the most "privileged" (maybe not the right word in this context) in their field is worth noting - not because they matter more than other women (definately not) but because if this is going on with them - how much worse is it for those with less privilege and power. And because those are the examples being used to make sex work look empowering/glamorous.

@KarensChoppyGob

Er my last post was the polar opposite of brown men defiling white women.

Yes sorry - I actually started writing my post before you posted! I wasnt aiming it at you. And I agree about the Thailand thing.

No probs appalled.

I agree all sex work is degrading - but eating someone’s shit or having them shit on your face is next level, I think.

Also note the Dubai punters aren't just locals/Middle Easterns, all manner of cretins use it as a port of call.

Of course.

All nations go to Thailand/Philippines/Malaysia/Cambodia too, Gary Glitter land basically.

[quote AnotherKrampus]@PrimeraVez Actually, far from restoring the reputation of Dubai, you are very much part of the problem and among the privileged people that lived on the backs of thousands of migrant workers living in appalling conditions. Just because you chose to ignore all of the massive human rights violations, does not make you a credible and decent person.[/quote]
Well said and spot on

This is nothing new......it’s been going on for years, see all the hideousness around Epstein and watch Victoria Harvey’s interview re this.

Same shit different faces (location).

@Smurfsarethefuture
I think she means spearmint or stringfellow , not soho house or the like