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Has Dubai become a coded word on the Internet for prostitution?

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debbrianna · 22/05/2021 11:18

I was reading a thread earlier and constant use of the word Dubai in association with influencers has grown so much. However, no one really mentions who pays for these trips. During lockdown the running jokes about Dubai was rife regarding influencers.
I have also read about people duped in going thinking it was with friends on holiday and it all goes wrong.

Not longer ago, lots of people were being paid by wealthy men or companies to fly of to Dubai on party yachts. A few documentaries on YouTube pointed towards prostitution. Some of the most vile and dehumanising things happened to some of them.

ONLYFANS is full of people flying off to Dubia and this set alarm bells ringing for me. AIBU for thinking this?

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Smurfsarethefuture · 23/05/2021 11:28

@Thisisworsethananticpated

Because they are commodified, too. Just in a different way. I have very successful, friend who is publicly known to come from a wealthy family. The requests he gets for money, etc shocked me. It is how the world sees him (and only someone as clueless as me didn’t see it. )

Men are commodified from an early age for their physical strength (working class men), their soft skills (middle class) and their connections (wealthy). They also brutally know this. Some see women as the reward for the expectations society has of them. How that works out from the spectrum of dating to escorts, depends to some extent on how people negotiate that territory. Either way, we are not the prize.

TheQueef · 23/05/2021 12:52

Sorry to lower the tone even further.

Was the shitting always a part of it? I always thought yachting was just escorting.
I knew a kink existed but the overarching Dubai toilet thing feels more about degradation than skat iyswim.

EishetChayil · 23/05/2021 13:49

Makes me want to herd up all the women and girls and keep them safe in a big female-only utopia. The men can shite all over each other on the wastelands surrounding it.

CandyLeBonBon · 23/05/2021 13:51

@TheQueef degradation of western women is absolutely part of it.

TheQueef · 23/05/2021 14:14

It's really depressing Candy imagine the emotional cost of that, in your mind and memorialised forever on video.
Imagine that following you, for the rest of your life? Makes me shudder.

It's such a degrading act.

Patup5 · 23/05/2021 14:37

Leaving my Dubai hotel at the crack of dawn for an early flight I noticed two tired young girls perched on a window ledge and sharing a can of Pepsi. They were dressed cheaply but provocatively, looked Eastern European.

Could this scenario have been anything other than them waiting for their pimp to collect them after a hard nights work in the hotel?

They were so young, kids really.

People traffickers are everywhere.

habibihabibi · 23/05/2021 16:24

Patup5
I have also seen really young girls loitering in lobbies. I think hotels mist be given backhanders to ignore "guests" as its a law to present passports. This is all going on in the higher end places. I would hate to hear whats happening in Deiras dodgy dives.

ZaraW · 23/05/2021 17:03

I remember being in a hotel in Dubai 20 years ago. An elderly M.E. man was with his wife and they were walking along holding hands.

A few hours later he was in the hotel bar with 2 Asian prostitutes. It's nothing new.

KarensChoppyGob · 23/05/2021 17:07

It's nothing *new.
*
Dubai is though, considering it was little more than a fishing village on the edge of a desert little more than half a century ago. It's made on new money and attracts it.

ZaraW · 23/05/2021 17:11

It was happening twenty years ago and obviously well before that. So I stand by my comment. It's nothing new.

SofiaMichelle · 23/05/2021 17:12

[quote Deathgrip]travellingjezebel.com/dubai-porta-potty/[/quote]
Are you people really reading this ^^ and thinking it's real?

"Prince Bin Fakin..."

🤣

KarensChoppyGob · 23/05/2021 17:15

I thought that was humour no? She obvs couldn't name names Grin.

OldWomanSaysThis · 23/05/2021 17:16

I'm old and live in the states and I remember in the 1980's being invited to an "audition" because a Saudi man was looking to fill his harem. You had to sign a one year contract if accepted.

It was just one of those moments when I realized there was a whole different world out there - run by rich men seeking sex in every way shape and form.

debbrianna · 23/05/2021 17:21

@ZaraW

It was happening twenty years ago and obviously well before that. So I stand by my comment. It's nothing new.
That's not the point of this thread. Prostitution is exist everywhere and there is no denying that.my question was for the influencer world and those with lots of followings. This used to be the same for c- listers who wanted to keep afloat between gigs and strugling models who could not make it but were good-looking. The media always has code words. Dubai just stood out this winter.
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KarensChoppyGob · 23/05/2021 17:34

Oh iswym, no of course not new in that way, oldest profession and all that.

KarensChoppyGob · 23/05/2021 17:34

That was @ZaraW.

Smurfsarethefuture · 23/05/2021 20:00

@debrianna

What code words?

This all makes me feel so sick. Money really does make the world go around. No wonder nothing changes.

Pongo101 · 23/05/2021 20:33

I started reading this thread yesterday and had nightmares last night about some of the scenes I read about on those blogs. I didn't even watch the videos.

Then today I was eating some pasta in sauce for lunch and I couldn't stop thinking it was someone's shit and I had to stop eating.

I just can't imagine how you would ever escape from those images if you had been involved in those kind of acts. How do you ever get over fucking a dog or eating someone's crapped out curry? What on earth do you get from a designer handbag that could be worth all that.

Even if you use the money "wisely" to buy a house or set yourself up with a business. What's the point if every time you go to sleep you are haunted by nightmares of someone shitting in your mouth?

Never mind the total fear of never getting off that yacht alive.

For a handbag. Basically a piece of dead cow sewn together to carry around pointless things nobody needs to post on a social media account for people you don't even know. And people will literally eat shit for that.

Something definitely went wrong in consumerist society if these are the things people think they need in life.

EishetChayil · 23/05/2021 21:25

That's capitalism.

The society of the spectacle. Debord predicted it in the 1960s.

Smurfsarethefuture · 23/05/2021 23:04

absolutely @EishetChayil

This is a good intro to Debord

hyperallergic.com/313435/an-illustrated-guide-to-guy-debords-the-society-of-the-spectacle/

WatermelonSocks · 23/05/2021 23:22

I have always wondered the same OP. How could they afford all of that?
Re prostitutes offered in parties. My uncle works in a very senior position for a big Japanese car company. They organise yearly parties in several capital cities for their senior members of staff. My uncle decided to go to the one in Brazil back in 2000. The invitation didn't include his wife but they went together anyway. They returned to the hotel after the party has finished to find two undressed young and incredibly pretty girls waiting on the bed!! The girls didn't leave even after seeing my uncle's wife and they spoke no English either. They only left after my uncle and his wife made a big fuss at the reception who then came and asked them to go and wait for their boss in the lobby. Apparently it was the done thing to be offered prostitutes after big parties! Needless to say my uncle's wife has never ever let him attend any of the company parties again.

EmeraldShamrock · 23/05/2021 23:54

that.my question was for the influencer world and those with lots of followings In regards to the influx of influencers this year using Dubai as a work hub during lockdown was mainly for the relaxed rules around lockdown, sunshine, shopping.
I've no doubt all the seedy stuff happens too just not sure if the top influencers are on that road?
My niece and her pals and some boyfriends went for a fortnight too, they're mesmerized by the cars and glamorous life, they were influenced to go by influencers the fab time they're promoting. Hmm

EmeraldShamrock · 23/05/2021 23:56

I have always wondered the same OP. How could they afford all of that? Popular influencers are loaded, look at the self made millionaires from YouTube.

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 24/05/2021 00:47

@wizzywig

This reminds me of a Turkish film on Netflix about this topic. I can't remember the name of it. Utterly depressing
If it's the film I'm thinking of, it's Moroccan, not Turkish and it's called Much Loved. It's a very sad film.
Ostara212 · 24/05/2021 01:11

Smurf "Some days, I am deadly serious about joining a convent"

Yes.

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