AIBU - just been called completely irresponsible for going to stay in a hotel?

[Pivotthesofa]

DH and I are late ish 30s so not been vaccinated yet.
We have a short break early this coming week in London which involves meeting friends for an afternoon tea, then staying at a lovely boutique hotel near at James park and having dinner in a restaurant on the same road

My sister has just told me that I’m completely irresponsible for still going, that I’m essentially saying I’m happy to leave 17 month old DS an orphan for the sake of a few cocktails!

I feel really upset now. It’s the first break away or night out we’ve had since I was six months pregnant as I had a bad pregnancy, and I was really looking forward to it.

DH Has an Addison Lee account through work so we were getting a car for the hours journey to the hotel and back the next day, so no public transport. We were going to be really careful etc

But DS talking about how it’s really bad for those in their 30s - the new variant - and acting like we are basically signing our own death warrant for a day away has really chilled me.

I was having a bit of a wobble anyway and was reassured by some lovely posters on here when I posted about it, but now I’m wondering if we should just cancel the whole thing. :(

AIBU to go?

[IceCreamAndCandyfloss]

@Pivotthesofa

I posted to ask if people would go when I was having a wobble.

But this is more about what my sister said! I’m really shocked she said it but I don’t know if that’s the general mood about the Indian variant which is why I asked. She’s usually very level headed but Covid seems to have left her scared to leave the house :( and I’m the one who has health anxiety so I’m usually the cautious one!

Why are you shocked she said there were risks? It’s true.

Just because the date says things can be done doesn’t mean it’s a good idea and she’s reminding you of that. She obviously cares for her family.

You are free to take your own risks just as she is free to remind you of them.

[PinkiOcelot]

Your sister is being ridiculous.

If your sister and people like her wish to spend their lives locked away and isolated from everything, let them crack on. The rest of us want to live our lives.

[NotQuiteUsual]

You'll have a well deserved lovely time. The risk is low and life sadly does always come with risks. Don't stress, enjoy a wonderful weekend and don't give it another thought.

Unless you're both planning on licking strangers or coughing at randos on the street it's fine.

[Meatshake]

She's batshit.

I went to Legoland yesterday, I'm off to centre parcs with the family in the next couple of weeks. Life is for living.

[Brefugee]

You’re not doing anything against government guidelines. You’re doing nothing wrong.

So were the people who went to Cheltenham races last year. We know how that went.

Having said that, the way you describe your trip is fine, OP, minimal risk. Enujoy it.

[GreyTS]

@skirk64

She's putting it a little more starkly than is ideal, but her point is valid. It's a medium risk that you will catch COVID and a smaller risk that you will die from it, but the risk is there. Personally I wouldn't be heading into a big town or city any time soon; that said, we do need people to act as "cannon fodder" to demonstrate whether the prevailing level of restrictions is appropriate. If deaths shoot up we'll know they need to be tightened again.

😂😂😂 what a weird thought process

[Spidey66]

I don’t know how us Londoners cope.

[backtonormalonedaysoon]

Put your contact tracing app on and enjoy it

[IceCreamAndCandyfloss]

Unless you're both planning on licking strangers or coughing at randos on the street it's fine

Yes because that’s how it’s spread to millions

[Chloemol]

It’s up to you, although she is being a drama Queen I do think she has a point, I wouldn’t be doing this at the moment. But that’s my personal choice. We all think different ways.

[Mylittlesandwich]

My guess would be that she feels very anxious about everything and she's projecting that on to you. My sister isn't as comfortable with getting back out there as I am and that's fine but she hasn't accused me of trying to orphan my son. If we weren't completely skint I imagine we would be doing the same as you.
Go and have a lovely time.

[ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere]

Rates are really low in London at the moment. Enjoy it while you can (and if there’s a resurgence then you’ll probably have been vaccinated by then).

I’ve been jumping on tubes to go shopping with gay abandon recently, and with one more vaccination but twenty more years of age I’m probably a similar risk profile to the OP.

[Phrowzunn]

@Abraxan

She is being ridiculous.
You are doing nothing wrong by going. It's all within the rules.

Dh and I are off to London next Friday for the weekend. Two nights, meal out and train there and back. Looking forward to it. We are also eating it twice next week - Monday with friends, mid week with mil. Week after dh and I are flying to, Scotland for a half term break

It's all allowed and within the rules. Can't wait.

I tend to agree that your sister is being melodramatic but then posts like these do make me think, well no wonder these variants spread round the whole of the UK so quickly and easily. I guess it’s just life - people are going to do what they’re allowed to do within the rules regardless if it’s the best idea for the general population.

[MrsAudreyShapiro]

She thinks it's too risky to go. Fair enough, we all have different approaches to risk. The comment about your ds becoming an orphan was just horrible and wrong.

I live in London and have booked a nice restaurant meal for next weekend, my first meal out in months. I'm really looking forward to it. Enjoy your break!

[itsgettingwierd]

Anything is a risk with covid around.

A trip to Tesco or local shops carries as much risk.

So unless she's as totally dramatic about these things too I'd say it's more jealousy than anything else.

I'm jealous

[bookworm14]

@Spidey66

I don’t know how us Londoners cope.

Indeed - what with the roaming knife gangs, muggers on every corner and now the streets strewn with covid victims - don’t know why I still live here really

[Cocomarine]

Do you really have health anxiety? If you do, then of all the people on the thread you should understand your sister and have a bit of empathy.

[wotchhha]

She's overreacting however I've only just finished a period of self isolation (colleague) & I'm so over it so wouldn't do it personally.

[NoMLMbots]

She is hysterical in her response. Ignore her. Too many of these type of people around now due to 'nothing matters but covid'.

Enjoy yourselves.

[Lesartisansetlessansculottes]

I don't think she is hysterical, why are you eating out with friends? The rest, ok, but the afternoon tea with friends... are they vaccinated even if you aren't?

[JassyRadlett]

She's putting it a little more starkly than is ideal, but her point is valid. It's a medium risk that you will catch COVID and a smaller risk that you will die from it, but the risk is there.

I always like it when posters provide case studies for ‘people in this country have zero clue about risk’.

OP, with case numbers at their current levels and your risk profile (no evidence I’ve seen that this is a more virulent strain or with a different age profile, though of course it’s early days - chief concern is how transmissible it is), your child is probably more at risk of being orphaned when you get in a car.

[rwalker]

2 options she ether has extreme anxiety or being a twat
I'm leaning to the 2nd

I think it's become second nature now to accept and minimise the risk involved with covid.

realistic with a child being orphaned by 2 young healthy parents isn't impossible I think crossing the road and driving would carry a similar risk .

Ignore her

[Abraxan]

Phrowzunn

I am out and about yes, but two were precooked from last year.
It's just timing.

However, I have had covid Iill enough to require hospital stay. Rush to a and e, long term complications) I most likely caught covid from school (work) likely from a child where I had no social,distancing, no masks, etc not from being out with just my dh or a friend or two, with social distancing and masks and other restrictions in place.

The risk from me being at work last term, without SD/masks and just an open window was a much bigger risk, especially as I am CV, but that was deemed totally necessary and perfectly fine to do.

Both dh and I are double vaccinated, with Pfizer. I also do twice weekly LFTs.

It's within the rules. When I travel these two times it's with dh - part of my household. No close contact with anyone else. Wearing masks on flight/train, in public areas, every time worn indoors.


The risk to me and from me when travelling or going out are minimal. Look at the data and the science.


Seriously, do you really think that a double vaccinated person who has already had covid, and following the SD/masks rules is really that big a risk to the population?

[Abraxan]

Pre-booked, not precooked.
As in booked several months ago, one having been rearranged once already.
It's just timing that's brought them together at the same time.

[GabsAlot]

Got more chance olf dying in a car crash on the way there tbh-does your sister drive or use cars to get anywhere