John Barrowman put his dick on co-star's shoulder

[Star555]

John Barrowman as Captain Jack Harkness has (had?) been my all-time favourite Doctor Who character. I knew JB has a history of indecently exposing himself on set multiple times, but today I learned that he not only exposed his dick repeatedly but also non-consensually touched fellow actors with it -- like Camille Coduri (who played Rose Tyler's mum)!

AIBU to think that he got away with this only because he is gay? If he had been straight, wouldn't non-consensually putting his dick on his female co-star's body from behind have landed him loads of trouble already? I was utterly shocked to watch the video -- I don't know how I should be feeling after learning that my favourite Doctor Who actor behaved in this despicable manner.

The descriptions of how normalised this is in the entertainment industry does not make it OK.

Lots of people thought Jimmy Saville was a good laugh too.

Just to add, I personally would be furious if someone did this to me and n🤮

@Snakeprint

Just to add, I personally would be furious if someone did this to me and n🤮

I like to think I've got a great sense of humour. I can take a joke. I don't want some bloke's cock on my shoulder snd I don't care who he is or what he does fit a living.

I worked in publishing in the 90s snd put up with my fair share of sexist, misogynistic behaviour.

I still wouldn't tolerate this.

For the posters who keep saying the context is fine. How does he make sure that everyone is fine with it before doing it?
He gets his cock out, zero fucks about anyone else, oh it's good laughs and it's put on the person who finds it deeply uncomfortable to either laugh along or report the star or a show, no dodgy power dynamics here

How about men keep their cock in their pants unless invited to take it out in a non work setting. It will be hard I know to keep moral up without a perverts cock flapping about to keep the mood up but I'm sure theatre will survive.

@Lockeddownagain

I worked with barrowman 8years ago it was well known he did things like that and he exposed himself in front of me several times he even wrote in my book about seeing things with him I wouldnt see elsewhere. But he got away with it cos he was the star turn and no one would have cared if you told them. He was a nice man bought everyone wine and looked after everyone but did that cos he thought it was funny

He didn't do it because he thought it was funny, he did it because he's an abuser and he tried to get away with the abuse by pretending it was funny. There's quite a difference.

All the nice, generous man stuff is not genuine, not the real him.

I wonder what would happen if a woman pressed or rubbed her bare vulva against a male colleague in the same situation. Would it be okay if she was a lesbian? It’s really, really hard to imagine, isn’t it? Even female actors and comedians with reputations for being edgy or outrageous, I can’t imagine people laughing it off. They’d be revolted, or concerned for her mental health.

To be honest lately as I've been watching some of his SM posts in lockdown, which I hadn't before it occurred to me his "sense of humour" is completely couched in sexual terms. It made me uncomfortable that he isn't this jokey suggestive guy but seedy and creepy. I'm not surprised by this video. He's quite the creep.

Let's be clear, this is classic sexual harassment in the work place, and neither the sexuality of the perpetrator or the nature of the work or its environment alter that fact.

Sexual harassment in the workplace is defined by:

"inappropriate touching; invasion of privacy; sexual jokes; lewd or obscene comments or gestures; exposing body parts; showing graphic images; unwelcome sexual emails, text messages, or phone calls; sexual bribery, coercion, and overt requests for sex; sexual favoritism; being offered a benefit for a sexual favor; being denied a promotion or pay raise because you didn’t cooperate. And of course, some women experience what more aptly could be described as sexual assault: being forced to perform oral sex on a man in a position of power, a man in power forcing himself on the woman either orally, vaginally, or anally, being drugged and rendered unconscious or incapable of defending oneself".

Victims of the sort of behaviour that JB has admitted to, are left feeling uneasy and humiliated, which is compounded by a feeling of shame. They feel they should have been able to defend themselves, when in fact they were rendered powerless, often because the perpetrator has seniority above them at work or because they are outnumbered by the perpetrator's friends or supporters.

This is ALL about rendering someone else powerless. "Look everybody, I have power over this person, look everyone I am so powerful I can do this and she can't object".

So if it's all just theatrical hi-jinks and no-one minds really...where are the stories about women constantly getting their boobs out and thrusting them in men's faces or as Mrsfrumble says, rubbing their bare vulva against people. Why is it only the men that seem to do this sort of thing?

anyone hear the story of phoebe waller bridger exposing her arse on the edge of stage. antics.
bet she regrets that now

@Lockeddownagain

I worked with barrowman 8years ago it was well known he did things like that and he exposed himself in front of me several times he even wrote in my book about seeing things with him I wouldnt see elsewhere. But he got away with it cos he was the star turn and no one would have cared if you told them. He was a nice man bought everyone wine and looked after everyone but did that cos he thought it was funny

You were groomed - it's what abusive men do.

where can i find christopher eccleston's comments?

@AbsolutelyPatsy

anyone hear the story of phoebe waller bridger exposing her arse on the edge of stage. antics. bet she regrets that now

Yes I bet she does regret it now. But to be fair to her, the way she tells that story, she is the "butt" (no pun intended) of the joke because she'd gone too far.

How was this happening on the set of a BBC children’s programme?! What is up at the BBC? Absolutely disgusting. Being gay is no excuse or relevance! How is this acceptable at the BBC, or in entertainment?

Didnt one if the actresses on the set of Oaklahoma with Hugh Jackman constantly flash her boobs around? I remember hugh jackman talking about his time in stage and telling that story; during rehearsals, right before scenes, she would flash him and then get on with the scene.

There are women doing this, particularly those who've worked in the theatre.

I'm not saying it's ok. It needs to be stopped because its sexual harassment, and no one in set wants to see that. Men do it more than women, but women to it to. However, when men do it, it really does seem to be a power thing and they also think its hilarious, even when told off.

Chris Pratt on the set of Parks and Recreation hard a scene where his character goes to a women's door and drops his trousers. He was meant to be wearing underwear, keeping everything covered, but for a laugh, he went with nothing on and flashed thr whole studio. He got a stern written warning about exposing himself in set because, if there is to be nudity on their sets, the crew need to be informed and consent and have the option of not being present etc. He got in trouble for forcing his penis onto everyone on set. The letter also warned him not to take that letter and make a joke out of it... and what did chris Pratt do? He took it in a talk show and had a good old laugh about what he had done.

@Lolalovesmarmite

I remember being very uncomfortable with an exercise JB did with the young women in How Do You Solve A Problem Like Maria. They referred to it as a ‘chemistry test’ but he basically grabbed them and kissed them with no warning. The power dynamic felt very wrong.

That was the programme I couldn't quite recall!

It was profoundly uncomfortable viewing and I doubt it would have been broadcast if JB were not relying so strongly upon his reputation as gay because it was plainly transgressive.

You don’t touch people with your naked genitals at work

I think that needs putting on mugs and cushions, all over the BBC. Just as a thoughtful reminder.....

@TheQueef

How are people excusing this? It's because of JB and others constantly eroding people's boundaries that this shit goes on. There is even a real world example, look how in awe NC is! He's showing how JB made an impression on him. We know where that ended up.

Fuck off excusing and protecting him, there just isn't a good reason.

Completely agree

Am agog at all the posters on here making excuses for a man touching someone without consent with his penis. His sexuality is completely irrelevant.

To all those that are saying you don't feel threatened because they are gay. Rape and sexual assault are not because someone fancies you, they are a power trip, men rape men when they are not gay to have power over someone, gay men can still rape and attack women. In most cases its power and hate not sexual attraction.

I went off him years ago when he was on a chat show describing how he had had an upset stomach while on stage, put his hand down his trousers to see if he had sharted, he had and somehow managed to flick shit from his finger on to a woman sat in the audience, big laugh! hahaha. foul!

It could just be me, but isn’t there something “worse” about genitals though? That’s why I used the example of a vulva, not breasts or arse. Obviously unsolicited flashing any of these body parts could be interpreted as harassment, but touching someone with your bare genitals without consent crosses a line doesn’t it?

Imagine if John Barrowman worked in an office and did this. Would the “context” be OK then? I don’t doubt he did it for a joke rather than because he’s a sexual predator but that doesn’t mean it’s right.

I knew very little about Barrowman, apart from having seen him as a judge on Dancing on Ice, I couldn't stand him, as a judge.

His behaviour is disgusting. There is no context, none in which it is even vaguely acceptable to do what he did. I hope his career sinks without trace. I'm just glad I never paid to see him on stage.

and btw, the gay men I know would not dream of putting their dicks on a woman, they are the type of men who would realise this was not terribly funny.

I can't imagine a context where its acceptable to be honest. Even if DH, who i love and have had his penis all manner of places, did it I would think it was grim. As has been said, it's impossible to know if they were actually okay with it, as it's a hard environment to speak up against the 'star'.