John Barrowman put his dick on co-star's shoulder

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John Barrowman as Captain Jack Harkness has (had?) been my all-time favourite Doctor Who character. I knew JB has a history of indecently exposing himself on set multiple times, but today I learned that he not only exposed his dick repeatedly but also non-consensually touched fellow actors with it -- like Camille Coduri (who played Rose Tyler's mum)!

AIBU to think that he got away with this only because he is gay? If he had been straight, wouldn't non-consensually putting his dick on his female co-star's body from behind have landed him loads of trouble already? I was utterly shocked to watch the video -- I don't know how I should be feeling after learning that my favourite Doctor Who actor behaved in this despicable manner.

Just watched the Jonathan Ross interview clip.
John Barrowman couldn't be any more in love with himself if he tried.

The video suggests he was doing it to everyone. Was that the case do we know.

With Noel being so keen to reenact and go on and on about it I'm suspicious it's just woman. But many John Barrowan is an equal opportunities sexual predator.

I find the last part where he's mimicking JB and repeatedly rubbing his crutch on her shoulder gross too. 🤢 that would've made me feel so uncomfortable that I probably would've stood up and moved away.

Imagine blacklisting an actor of the stature of Christopher Eccleston in favour of a hokey ham like Barrowman and an abuser like Clark. Seriously fucked up.

Yes, it's absolutely about power, just as all sexual assault is about power. Did he do this to people who were 'on his level' status-wise? No, he did it to Camille (2nd level cast member) and Eve Myles (the newbie, who happily went on to establish herself as one of the most in-demand actors of her generation). It's very much 'know your place'.

@CentrifugalBumblePuppy I totally empathise with your post and I 'see' you and the experiences you've had. But after 20 years out of the industry completely, I also see that it is fucking rife with the exploitation of power. It's taken me that long and #metoo to see it.

Everyone involved has to play their part in calling that out and changing things. And this 'we're all in it together, we're the theatre and we're special and no outsider can understand us' culture is one of the main reasons abusive behaviour is still rife in the creative industries.

I'm not having a pop at you at all. I probably would have laughed at John Barrowman if it had happened to me. But there's a lot of conditioning behind that response.

@Brokenpencilsarepointless

Didnt one if the actresses on the set of Oaklahoma with Hugh Jackman constantly flash her boobs around? I remember hugh jackman talking about his time in stage and telling that story; during rehearsals, right before scenes, she would flash him and then get on with the scene.

There are women doing this, particularly those who've worked in the theatre.

I'm not saying it's ok. It needs to be stopped because its sexual harassment, and no one in set wants to see that. Men do it more than women, but women to it to. However, when men do it, it really does seem to be a power thing and they also think its hilarious, even when told off.

Chris Pratt on the set of Parks and Recreation hard a scene where his character goes to a women's door and drops his trousers. He was meant to be wearing underwear, keeping everything covered, but for a laugh, he went with nothing on and flashed thr whole studio. He got a stern written warning about exposing himself in set because, if there is to be nudity on their sets, the crew need to be informed and consent and have the option of not being present etc. He got in trouble for forcing his penis onto everyone on set. The letter also warned him not to take that letter and make a joke out of it... and what did chris Pratt do? He took it in a talk show and had a good old laugh about what he had done.

I thought of that too. It was another Graham Norton interview. They all seem to have been anecdotes on GN. It seemed worse than the actual flashing that he was now laughing about how seriously everyone else took it. That put me right off him as well

The first time I saw Chris Pratt on GN I honestly thought I'd had some sort of brain event. The audience and guests were pissing themselves laughing at him, but everything he said was misogynistic crap. I felt like I was listening to a completely different person.

RickiTarr
“You don’t touch people with your naked genitals at work. Crazy that this even needs saying”

Exactly, end of.

It's making me think though.
Remember Jarvis and his arse protest at MJ? I laughed at that.

@Pintosmash

For the posters who keep saying the context is fine. How does he make sure that everyone is fine with it before doing it? He gets his cock out, zero fucks about anyone else, oh it's good laughs and it's put on the person who finds it deeply uncomfortable to either laugh along or report the star or a show, no dodgy power dynamics here

How about men keep their cock in their pants unless invited to take it out in a non work setting. It will be hard I know to keep moral up without a perverts cock flapping about to keep the mood up but I'm sure theatre will survive.

Exactly, does he ask them for consent forms at the start of filming?

It's disgusting, it's abuse of power and he should be put out to pasture.

I'm sure there are many, many more of them.

For example, I was at an industry dinner in 2019. About 1,500 people.

Alexander Armstrong was the host.
His opening 'joke' was...

"What has 100 legs and no pubes?"
"The front row of a Justin Bieber concert".

Can you imagine what his behind the scenes comments & attitudes are if that's his public persona just two years ago?

@HoldontoOneMoreDay

The first time I saw Chris Pratt on GN I honestly thought I'd had some sort of brain event. The audience and guests were pissing themselves laughing at him, but everything he said was misogynistic crap. I felt like I was listening to a completely different person.

This is the man who went golfing when his newborn was 4 days old. Doesn't surprise me.

Awful video, NC can't stop going on about it and re-enacting it.

Good on Lloyd-Webber for giving what seems like a formal warning, as he sent Barrowman a letter, even if Barrowman chose to interpret it as light-hearted (I wonder if it really did say 'please stop upstaging' or if Barrowman is rephrasing it).

I used to follow him on Instagram but the pictures of him groping young mate men gave me the ick. He's blatant. 🤢🤢🤢

@Lolalovesmarmite

I remember being very uncomfortable with an exercise JB did with the young women in How Do You Solve A Problem Like Maria. They referred to it as a ‘chemistry test’ but he basically grabbed them and kissed them with no warning. The power dynamic felt very wrong.

I found that scene quite disturbing too- I didn't know who he was, but the women were so clearly uncomfortable. So clearly.

That should say young men, sorry!!

The women in that clip were of a certain generation, which unfortunately has a bearing on their attitude towards what happened. I'd like to think that younger women wouldn't put up and shut up like they did.

We had a pest like that in our office back in the 80s. He put his willy on one of the female workers shoulder and she whacked it with the sharp edge of the ruler. We thought it was hilarious and served him right but we didn't think to complain 🙄 Different days

It's almost the equivalent of a dog pissing up a lamp post. Marking territory and showing who's the alpha. Disgusting. I used to like him but things I've read & heard have put me right off him. And he's so in your face. Always.

@TheQueef

It's making me think though. Remember Jarvis and his arse protest at MJ? I laughed at that.

He didn't expose himself. He flapped his hands around, miming a fart, fully clothed

I find him quite contradictory. I'm not immune to the charm and charisma, but he also gives me the creeps, and actually the charm and charisma set off warning bells in their own right.
He has always felt false to me, but I put that down to him having had to hide his sexuality.

He fascinates me the way snakes do.

I know John Barrowman. I've worked with him on numerous occasions. I've been waiting for this thread to happen TBH.

It's funny how many people think he has a huge ego. In fact, he has a fragile little ego and is desperate for people to like and love him. His long and colourful history of indecent exposure is a puerile attempt to create a larger-than-life, life-and-soul-of-the-party type persona that he imagines is more acceptable to the world than his true self. Given the shallow reference points of the showbiz industry, he is probably right. He's a lovely, generous, big-hearted man who is simultaneously deeply psychologically immature. He has never fully accepted his sexuality and deals at a deep level he is only dimly aware of with a crushing load of self-hatred. His behaviour is learned from long years of being surrounded by people who thought or pretended that this sort of thing was funny and 'outrageous' but who have since grown out of it or moved with the times. He wants people to think he is funny and clever, which is ironic, because actually he is both those things without all the sophomoric willy waving.

I don't condone his behaviour, I don't see it as acceptable in any industry and I recognise that it makes people feel threatened. Knowing him as I do, though, I think I can say with certainty that he is not predatory, and the only sense in which his behaviour is misogynistic is that it reflects his submersion in an environment and value system that is mired in misogyny - by which I mean both society generally and the entertainment industry more particularly.

In my view, what is needed is widespread cultural change rather than rejecting, and ruining the careers of, individuals whose personal behaviour has been tacitly condoned for years before suddenly being named for the harrassment it is and always was. The industry whose norms give rise to this kind of behaviour needs to take more responsibility for the mental health of its raw fodder, both those who are being harrassed and those who are doing the harrassing. John has been a valuable commodity for the BBC but AFAIK they have never taken any role in addressing his undoubted psychological problems. IMO there is a much broader exploitation problem to consider here than anything he personally has done.

That's really interesting @MissingInActon. I agree with what you're saying although I don't know JB personally.

But I guess " John" may have liked to take a moment to reflect on his behaviour and seek professional help.

Unlike thousands of others , he can afford it.

That makes sense with my unease about him, to be honest.