I like Boris

[choppysea]

Ok, so I am an expert re politics but I don't know why everyone is hating Boris. No one has had to deal with the issues he has re Brexit / Global pandemic and he has pretty much pulled both out of the bag. Look at us compared to Europe. How many lives have been lost due to their childish sniping. He has also had Covid. i am just baffled why everyone is hating on him, please explain???? So am I being unreasonable liking boris as an actual human being that makes mistakes but get shit done?

@DiseasesOfTheSheep

I understand what your perspectives are, however when researching its better to be able to research as best as possible to confirm how likely the different aspects are true or not, otherwise if you just take x word for it, then your partly creating faulty intelligence because of just assuming that what x said is true

I mean, I'm not sure who you think you are to be lecturing me on research There's no aspect of "taking someone's word for it" in any of the posts I've written, so I don't think you do understand my perspective, as you put it.

Keep replying maybe their batteries will wear out .

He's a cunning conman who has let people die whilst handing his incompetent mates millions. He is a lying disgusting scumbag.
Watch him resign when Brexit backlash gets too much.
I wouldn't buy a used car from that tosser.

But I can see you think you have rumbled “ me” or us. Report to mumsnet - sock puppeting isn’t allowed.

Do come back and say you were wrong though.

Every time someone praises Boris on Facebook for his handling of covid I post this.

Missed first cobra meeting
Missed second cobra meeting
Missed third, fourth and fifth cobra meeting.
Allowed Cheltenham festival to go ahead.
Allowed Liverpool Madrid game to go ahead.
Twickenham game, ditto
Shaking hands at.twickenham game and catching COVID, possibly still has long COVID.
Late into lockdown against scientific advice
Not enough PPE
Face mask dithering
Corruption in PPE scheme(giving contracts to mates)
Downgrading of virus status to cover lack of PPE.
Insufficient cover for all self employed.
Not extending SSP to those forced to self isolate.
U-turn on SSP.
Removal of elderly infected patients from hospitals to care homes.
Failure to join Eu ventilator scheme
Lying about missing an e-Mail regarding ventilator scheme.
Barnard Castle and Cummings
Failure to sack for Barnard castle.
Allowing Cummings to go on telly and lie about Barnard castle.
Attempted herd immunity policy.
U-turn on herd immunity
Denial of herd immunity policy despite cabinet notes confirming it.
Early release of lockdown (7 weeks instead of 10 weeks).
World class track and trace that neither tracks or traces.
Eat out to help out. More like eat out to infect.
Refusal to consider firebreak.
Ridiculing firebreak
U-turn on firebreak( A month instead of two weeks)
Exams fiasco. DfE refusing to accept teacher gradings.
U-turn on exams fiasco
School meals fiasco
U-turn on school meals fiasco courtesy of Marcus Rashford.
Insisting on uni’s opening
Students retuning for freshers week and holding mass super spreader events.
Locking uni students in halls.
Identifying new strain in September
Not telling anyone about new strain
Not doing anything about new strain
5 Day Christmas holiday.
Refusal to accept scientific evidence against 5 day Christmas holiday.
Late u-turn on 5 day Christmas holiday.
General communications policy that looks like it was made up on the spot and sometimes actually was.
Failure to brush hair on almost every occasion.

Every time I post it, someone points out bits I missed.

@Creamcrackersandricecakes
I'd definitely vote for Dilyn.

@TruelyWonder. That's a very cute looking Boris.

My main points , I'll admit i may not explain in the best way, but if we expect half truths and misinformation from any points of view, then to gain knowledge and understanding as best as possible is to research as much as possible the issues that are being discussed.

[quote Tealightsandd]@Creamcrackersandricecakes
I'd definitely vote for Dilyn.

@TruelyWonder. That's a very cute looking Boris.[/quote]
All headlines without any context as to the reasons why and what the reasons for that lead to those headlines.

@Thewinterofdiscontent

But I can see you think you have rumbled “ me” or us. Report to mumsnet - sock puppeting isn’t allowed.

Do come back and say you were wrong though.

Absolutely. If I got it wrong then I genuinely apologise. Knowing when to apologise is important. I wish more people knew how to do so...

Sorry wrong person to quote

@travellinglighter

Every time someone praises Boris on Facebook for his handling of covid I post this.

Missed first cobra meeting
Missed second cobra meeting
Missed third, fourth and fifth cobra meeting.
Allowed Cheltenham festival to go ahead.
Allowed Liverpool Madrid game to go ahead.
Twickenham game, ditto
Shaking hands at.twickenham game and catching COVID, possibly still has long COVID.
Late into lockdown against scientific advice
Not enough PPE
Face mask dithering
Corruption in PPE scheme(giving contracts to mates)
Downgrading of virus status to cover lack of PPE.
Insufficient cover for all self employed.
Not extending SSP to those forced to self isolate.
U-turn on SSP.
Removal of elderly infected patients from hospitals to care homes.
Failure to join Eu ventilator scheme
Lying about missing an e-Mail regarding ventilator scheme.
Barnard Castle and Cummings
Failure to sack for Barnard castle.
Allowing Cummings to go on telly and lie about Barnard castle.
Attempted herd immunity policy.
U-turn on herd immunity
Denial of herd immunity policy despite cabinet notes confirming it.
Early release of lockdown (7 weeks instead of 10 weeks).
World class track and trace that neither tracks or traces.
Eat out to help out. More like eat out to infect.
Refusal to consider firebreak.
Ridiculing firebreak
U-turn on firebreak( A month instead of two weeks)
Exams fiasco. DfE refusing to accept teacher gradings.
U-turn on exams fiasco
School meals fiasco
U-turn on school meals fiasco courtesy of Marcus Rashford.
Insisting on uni’s opening
Students retuning for freshers week and holding mass super spreader events.
Locking uni students in halls.
Identifying new strain in September
Not telling anyone about new strain
Not doing anything about new strain
5 Day Christmas holiday.
Refusal to accept scientific evidence against 5 day Christmas holiday.
Late u-turn on 5 day Christmas holiday.
General communications policy that looks like it was made up on the spot and sometimes actually was.
Failure to brush hair on almost every occasion.

Every time I post it, someone points out bits I missed.

All headlines without any context as to the reasons why and what the reasons for that lead to those headlines

Boris the "spaffing money up the wall" on historic child sex abuse? The Boris who cheated on his wife while she was going through chemo? Boris who's incompetence undoubtably ensured Nazanin was charged and imprisoned in Iraq? Boris "let the bodies pile high"? Boris who won't pay for Grenfell cladding to be taken off the homes of tens of thousands of people? Boris who took 2 months to get his act together when Covid first struck? That Boris?

You are seriously deluded.

Every time someone praises Boris on Facebook for his handling of covid I post this.

You should keep your inteligence level to facebook then, you are part of the reason why labour lost Hartlepool,

It would be funny if you wasn't so serious

He’s disgusting.

The reason they are all headlines Hawkins is because they are true. What possible context could you provide that would make him look good?. Given he lies like a carpet, is prone to make stuff up on the spot and reacts badly under pressure then the headlines tell the story. Lazy, dishonest money grabbing toss pot.

The first reply had it.

All headlines without any context as to the reasons why and what the reasons for that lead to those headlines

No, don't you understand if you spam those headlines (openly admitted to facebook) and not look at nuance it means those who don't agree are easily led by the media.

It's a perfect trifector of believing others are easily led by click bait media and in response unironically post bullet point headlines from the alternative click bait media, and somehow think you have won the argument.

There is no shades of grey or nuance in debate anymore, and it this rigid stance isn't coming from the right wing, the bus is still being used unironically on this thread.

@Justanotherlurker

Every time someone praises Boris on Facebook for his handling of covid I post this.

You should keep your inteligence level to facebook then, you are part of the reason why labour lost Hartlepool,

It would be funny if you wasn't so serious

Hi lurker in English you should say

“It would be funny if you WEREN’T so serious.”

Just saying.

It seems when the devil is in the details, it seems some people just base their views on a headline rather than reading the full context and details of the story, which then could provide them with a different perspective,.rather than an o,m,g headline ect

The reason they are all headlines Hawkins is because they are true.

Peak mumsnet as to being out of touch politically, I bet you unironically call the fall of Hartlepool as easily led by the daily mail and uneducated.

The OP has brought a lot of you out, it would be comical if I was a die hard con voter, as it is I just think you are not as critical thinking as you make out, and your no doubt russle degree hasn't actually served you that well.

@ViciousJackdaw

I think Johnson is a complete cunt.

This

Hes a twat. And a Tory. And a fucking idiot And not fit to be Prime minister.

@Justanotherlurker

The reason they are all headlines Hawkins is because they are true.

Peak mumsnet as to being out of touch politically, I bet you unironically call the fall of Hartlepool as easily led by the daily mail and uneducated.

The OP has brought a lot of you out, it would be comical if I was a die hard con voter, as it is I just think you are not as critical thinking as you make out, and your no doubt russle degree hasn't actually served you that well.

I don’t have a russle degree( or even a Russell group degree) but I do have a voracious appetite for news, information and a job where critical thinking is important. I’m not a natural labour voter and have in the dim distant past voted Tory.

I don’t know the reason for Hartlepool but if I were to speculate then I’d say the loss is a combination of poor behaviour from the previous Labour MP and the fact that Hartlepool was 70% pro Brexit.

Hartlepool doesn’t change the fact that Boris has lied, bluffed and performed poorly when it comes to covid. Other than the vaccination program(run by the NHS by the way) name one positive thing he did during the pandemic.

@Hawkins001

It seems when the devil is in the details, it seems some people just base their views on a headline rather than reading the full context and details of the story, which then could provide them with a different perspective,.rather than an o,m,g headline ect

I have read the headlines, the text and understand the context. What possible context could there be that could put the lying and dithering in a good light? Happy to be enlightened.

He's certainly charming, likeable and probably good company, but I'm not sure I could ever fully trust him.

Could you confirm who or what you mean when you say "lying and dithering in a good light?" And what sources do you use to come to that conclusion, do you just use news reports, Do you cross reference, your news sources or do you just limit yourself to one source ? Do you study any of the various reports produced on the different aspects and issues of government policies ect ?