To be irritated by people wanting a foreign holiday this summer?

[Irishterrier]

I know some people have family abroad and that is different.

However I know several people who either have second homes abroad or just fancy some sun, and I feel annoyed by them agitating about wanting to go abroad this summer.

AIBU to think they're being selfish?

You're not necessarily the world's leading authority on everything either. My view is the risk of variants in May is an issue that might have changed by July, due to vaccine rollout.

I'm not remotely claiming to be an expert on anything at all. I'm saying that a) the mere desire to do something enjoyable is not selfish and b) if we are allowd to travel, then it's ok to travel. Obviously if the rules change due to new variants etc, then people should obey the rules, as they always should. All I have said at any point is that if the current rules allow something, it's ok to do it! .

@lazylinguist

You're not necessarily the world's leading authority on everything either. My view is the risk of variants in May is an issue that might have changed by July, due to vaccine rollout.

I'm not remotely claiming to be an expert on anything at all. I'm saying that a) the mere desire to do something enjoyable is not selfish and b) if we are allowd to travel, then it's ok to travel. Obviously if the rules change due to new variants etc, then people should obey the rules, as they always should. All I have said at any point is that if the current rules allow something, it's ok to do it! .

I didn't say it was selfish. I just think it's unwise.

I don't think the rule change right now is wise.

@helpIhateclothesshopping

I'm more annoyed by the concept of a holiday in this country being considered a "staycation" - as if it's not a proper holiday. I think it makes people expect that they should be going abroad and gives people unreasonable expectations. Our first holiday abroad as a family (apart from a day trip to France) was when I was 17, before that it was school trips and Scout camp abroad and camping holidays or visiting family in this country. The media are fueling people's unreasonable expectations.

My first holiday was as an adult, whether in the uk or abroad. We had no holidays as children because my parents couldn't afford it, no staying with family or school trips for us so yes I expect a holiday abroad for me and my son for my working hard all year to afford it!

@bossyrossy

It’s selfish because you are only thinking of your own pleasure and not the well-being of your fellow countrymen/women. No doubt we will all be in lockdown again come the autumn when all the variants the holiday makers have brought back cause the Covid death rate to once again rise. I may be a pessimist but I hope I’m proved wrong.

God forbid anyone might want to do what they are allowed to do and enjoy themselves after this last year.

well people probably wont be going very far after the list thats just been released

even then you have to pay for a test both ways

Gabs

Most people won’t go away til July August by which time even Shnapps said he expected wider travel across Europe

What about if you want other people to go on foreign holidays because your livelihood depends on it? Is that selfish? The travel and tourism industry is the bread and butter of thousands of people in this country and I'm so tired of 'travel is a luxury, not a necessity' .... it's a necessity for a lot of people

I don't think it's selfish at all if you have been fully vaccinated and are happy to test before during and after...on a personal note I have family that I havnt been able to see for nearly 2 years.. the only people who seem to think it's selfish are those who have been able to see their family and friends as they don't live abroad . We usually do 2 or 3 trips a year so my children stay close to their grandparents, aunties and cousins.. I'll be fully vaccinated soon and it breaks my heart that I STILL can't go and hug my mum...

Picturesandpickkes while I have been managing on 80% less income for almost a tear and uncertain if my job would still be there once allowed back to work I have stuck to the rules. I have found shopped once a month, not seen my Gc one of whom was born last year and I've yet to meet. I'd go out to walk my dog and that was it. During my walks I would see people in going in and out of others houses, groups of youngsters on the playing fields, see a couple of my neighbours having friends and family round. I watched huge groups of people on the tv protesting and rioting, and watched the news where hoards of people went to beauty spots and beaches despite being in lockdown. Those are the folks that help to keep the pandemic going. Where I want to go they have had very few cases /deaths and the rules are strict whilst you are there. I would be happy to wear a mask if required but apart from food shopping and the odd meal and drink out I would be sat on my terrace enjoying the view. Which is probably a darn sight safer than going into work everyday where I have to mix with customers who have come from a over the place (some came from a t4 area to our city to shop as their shops were closed during the tired system time) even when travel was restricted. As soon as we have the green light to go where my other place is I'm off complete with vaccination certificate and anything else required for me to go.

How is it selfish to want a holiday? YABU to let yourself get wound up over something so inconsequential to you.

YABU! Desperate for sun and a change of scene! Most people have been vaccinated
now and are desperate to get on with their lives.....

@helpIhateclothesshopping

I'm more annoyed by the concept of a holiday in this country being considered a "staycation" - as if it's not a proper holiday. I think it makes people expect that they should be going abroad and gives people unreasonable expectations. Our first holiday abroad as a family (apart from a day trip to France) was when I was 17, before that it was school trips and Scout camp abroad and camping holidays or visiting family in this country. The media are fueling people's unreasonable expectations.

A staycation is not a proper holiday to me. I love few things more than learning about different cultures, trying different foods, enjoying different landscapes, sightseeing in new places....not to mention the weather. Going abroad is way more fun to me! Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to my week in Devon, just can't get as excited about it as I can the prospect of going abroad!

Just to add....I'd be happy to camp abroad! Not after luxury here, just a change in scene and a bit of culture!

@smilingontheinside

Picturesandpickkes while I have been managing on 80% less income for almost a tear and uncertain if my job would still be there once allowed back to work I have stuck to the rules. I have found shopped once a month, not seen my Gc one of whom was born last year and I've yet to meet. I'd go out to walk my dog and that was it. During my walks I would see people in going in and out of others houses, groups of youngsters on the playing fields, see a couple of my neighbours having friends and family round. I watched huge groups of people on the tv protesting and rioting, and watched the news where hoards of people went to beauty spots and beaches despite being in lockdown. Those are the folks that help to keep the pandemic going. Where I want to go they have had very few cases /deaths and the rules are strict whilst you are there. I would be happy to wear a mask if required but apart from food shopping and the odd meal and drink out I would be sat on my terrace enjoying the view. Which is probably a darn sight safer than going into work everyday where I have to mix with customers who have come from a over the place (some came from a t4 area to our city to shop as their shops were closed during the tired system time) even when travel was restricted. As soon as we have the green light to go where my other place is I'm off complete with vaccination certificate and anything else required for me to go.

I wonder do you think everyone else has had a great time for the last year?

As I said at the start, I think international travel at the moment is unwise, although I understand why individuals would wish to do it.

YANBU it appears some folk have forgotten the lessons Covid taught us about bringing back Covid from overseas last year P

In the grand scheme of hardships, it's no big deal missing a holiday abroad but I don't think about others doing this as selfish. I think people are sick of being controlled for do long. The weather is awful, many are desperate for an escape.

Mumsnet is riddled with chat topics regarding the 'incorrect' behaviour of other people

I watched huge groups of people on the tv protesting and rioting, and watched the news where hoards of people went to beauty spots and beaches despite being in lockdown. Those are the folks that help to keep the pandemic going

Pepper don't still believe this do they?

We have a holiday carried over from last year and personally cannot wait to go. My Husband and I have lost both our Dads in the last 10 months, we’ve both worked throughout as both key workers and our kids have worked their backsides off too. We are prepared to quarantine at home and pay for tests in order to go. We will have had both vaccinations also. I don’t think it’s selfish with all of that in mind. Each to their own as long as doing no harm to others.

I think you are YBU. Due to the government guidelines our lives have been restricted like we have never known before . This has caused ppl to be judged by decisions they have made during that time. We are all in the same storm but none of us are in the same boat. If the government have deemed it safe and precautions are in place why would it be deemed selfish. What we took for granted before , travelling, seeing friends and family is now often perceived as being negligent and or selfish.

@Whatamess582 well I'm planning to come to France & spend my money & I'm delighted you're happy for us to come.

I'll be fully vaccinated, I'll do whatever tests I have to, and quarantine at home if necessary.

Can't wait!

I haven't seen my family in the past 3 years.. In 2019 I couldnt go.In 2020 it was cancelled due to pandemic ..and this year too I have no hope.. my parents are aged and i terribly miss my siblings too. I feel really sad when i see some people just blame when they hear people going for holiday..not everybody is going to chill. Many have ailing relatives,health issues that needed to be treated(which is delayed by NHS stupid waiting lists).Many cant afford the huge hotel quarantine cost. I wonder why Govt. is not allowing people to quarantine in their own homes which can be tracked with some phone app or something.But I agree that a 'HOLIDAY' holiday will be the last thing I am hoping for.

Picturesandpickles "I wonder do you think everyone else......" what a crass comment to make. You can obviously read all the other comments and do know that most people have had a tough time as do I Family, friends here in UK and abroad have found it tough. Some no longer have jobs and some have lost people to covid or other reasons and had to deal with as best they can. Looking forward to getting away from the rain, to go somewhere different, maybe meet up with friends and family gives you something to look forward to. I did not contemplate travelling last year but as already posted once given the green light and it is deemed safe to go I will go.

I'm more irritated by the staycationers!!! We dont go abroad as im scared to fly and £££ so we camp. Im desperate to get away but haven't booked anything as everything fully booked and crowded. In fairness im not irritated by people wanting a holiday, as i am one of those people but i for me that means getting away from people 🤷🏼‍♀️

Unless you are planning on going to the Falklands then I guess it’s a non question. Most holidays will be cancelled. Spain, France, Italy will definitely be off. I’ve heard Greece may not make it to. So start planning a uk getaway now before they get fully booked!

Im desperate to get away but haven't booked anything as everything fully booked and crowded

We have literally just been looking at sites in Cornwall to go to in our campervan. Totally full, and I'm not talking school holidays or bank holiday weekend, I mean mid-week in May.

Scotland one can at least park up at stopping spots although that will probably be a brawl as well already. The campsites are full there as well.

So too right I'm crossing to France as soon as legally possible, where there are plentiful aires and campsites, and lovely weather, food and scenery.

The UK literally does not have the infrastructure to offer everyone a summer holiday. All these people saying we should stay and spend money within the country - how exactly if it's all full and no-one will take it?