@Dg390
Hi circleswithincircles - you describe yourself as hardworking but choose to describe two men as privileged - one with a career history of extreme laziness and one who has worked hard for everything he has done.so from your northern scottish view is for children born in London you are indifferent between hard working and lazy because being in london / surrey means privilege and whether it is hard work or inherited connections who cares (would you be happy to vote for starmer if he hadn’t been successful or would he still be wrong). And Johnson is useless about getting other people to look at detail and we are very lucky that the NHs is run by great people or else we would be in much bigger trouble. What the nhs has achieved is in spite of Johnson rather than because of him - he was all over the detail of the pre Christmas lockdown and failed to act in time which is why we have one of the highest death rates in the developed world ...
Oh gawd, why do people do this on the internet? It tells me more about the questioner so why give that much evidence about your true motives (like Keir, I'm a lawyer).
Some of us just dont fall neatly into your much beloved stereotypical assumptions - I might currently live in the North but not in Northern England, am partly Dutch educated, read not English newspapers but Algemeen Dagblad, and don't vote for individuals but for parties. I can guarantee that when you say you live in the North of Scotland on here, some posters will assume youre a bit thick and then try to patronise you (then deny it). (not all of course).
God knows how Starmer has convinced so many Labour supporters to believe he is not privileged - i'll give you that he is hard working, but everyone else knows that his family are wealthy and that he inherited land in Surrey, so to me, inheriting valuable land cancels out an Eton education as its more quantifiable/tangible.
But what you're really telling me is that you're trying to catch me out. I'm not sure why that is, except there are certain people who like an audience and particularly to deride people to that audience. You're not quite sure of your audience here, so you're caging it a bit.
But so caught up are you in your cause, that you just can't help yourself with so much detail, when a neutral or less biased person would argue in general points.
So much false attribution - I didnt actually describe myself as hardworking (nor did I say I'm not - like many people, I probably have times of laziness).
But what you're telliing me is that Labour supporters trawl through the posts online of anyone who marginally challenges them. You've tried to make it sound friendly, but have been overly personal and accusative.
You see it on here all the time. It's very predictable and I must admit I sometimes set up Snp supporters on Scotsnet, and use their responses to study their tactics.
Yes, any barrister/many lawyers who do court work get instruction in this sort of thing. Yes, other people do see through it too, not just lawyers. We even got a short session on spotting the signs of the dark triad in the diploma to help us identify lies. Fascinating stuff.
What you will want to do now is accuse me of being elitist/a snob/obtuse, because you will try to set me apart in some way. Or another poster might come on and try it. Or maybe just downright abuse.
I dont think you realise how badly it comes across to be so rude about people ("a career of extreme laziness") to me it makes me suspect that you might have a problem with auhority/following rules and many people aren't really comfortable with such a blatant lack of respect for someone who has likely worked a lot harder than you).
I see both of you so far have started your post with "Hi Circles..." 