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AIBU?

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AIBU, is this utterly insane?

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sunshinepunch · 05/05/2021 07:30

Hi

Having a really hard time with heart or head decision.

Trying to keep things as short as possible but don't want to drip feed. I'm married, late 40's. My husband is also late 40's and we have twin boys aged 8.

We moved from Scotland to Victoria (Australia) five years ago when the boys were wee.

My husband works full time and I'm part time and the boys are at a local school they like. My husband works long hours in a senior office based job and enjoys it here. His role can be quite technical and isn't found in every office. I pick up very junior full time admin roles (temporary reception assistant/packing envelopes/filing/data entry etc). We've not owned property in Scotland but did manage to save £20,000 which we used for visas and to move out to Australia.

Right, now to my AIBU. I would really like to move back to Scotland next year but my husband doesn't really want to go. I am originally from New Zealand but lived in Scotland for 11 years. My husband is half English half Scottish but doesn't really have much family to speak of except for his mum and aunt (elderly in Scotland). My husband and I earn better money in Victoria but it is really expensive here. I feel like we could almost never get on the property ladder. We have a little bit of savings (about $11,000 AUD) that would be used to move back and initial settling back costs. As we still have about a year to go if we move, it's likely the savings will increase a little.

Ever since we've lived in Australia I have felt like a fish out of water and I really want to go back to Scotland, where my close friends are. I have no ties with New Zealand anymore. I miss everything about Scotland. I've tried and tried here in Australia but it just feels like it's all keeping up with the Jones's and everyone already have all the friends they need. I feel like I'm an outsider looking in on someone else's life. I volunteer, take any job I can and invite people to coffee dates/play dates but it's just a closed book. I miss my friends so much & their kids, who my boys used to play with. But it's more than that. Scotland is "home" to me. I adore everything about it. It's where I feel settled. I feel like five years is enough to know Australia is not home. We moved here initially for a bit of adventure and thought it would be a better life as a family. My husband thinks Australia has a higher standard of living than Scotland and thinks kids are kids longer here/have better lives. He's earning more here and enjoys it here. He's said he will move back however if I really really want to.

We would apply for jobs before leaving (hopefully lining up interviews) and work hard back in Scotland. We both always had jobs in Scotland, but I know things will take a while to get back to some sort of normality.

The biggest issue is that we don't have any assets. I'm really concerned that we may be moving back to what could be a huge backwards step. We'd like to get a mortgage one day but I'm conscious we're late 40's, no assets and would moving back to start again as such. I'm worried I'm could even move my family to possible poverty.

Is it insane to even consider this?? Are we too old to be considering "starting anew"? I'm an optimistic person (and we've always made things work, we work hard) but just feel so dejected and an outsider.

I'm so desperately unhappy here, but I have to think of what's right for me and my family's future.

Do I just push my feelings away, smile and pretend?

Help........

OP posts:
phishy · 02/09/2021 07:30

Zombie

EverybodyIsInteresting · 02/09/2021 07:52

@phishy

Zombie
Damn! I usually spot them. Disappointed in myself.
donkeymcdonkface · 02/09/2021 07:54

Honestly come back, life is too short to be miserable. I lived in NZ with my kiwi husband for 10 years. I remember going to a wedding with a 90 year old lady who cried the whole time about how she wanted to go 'home' (north of England) but it was too late. It was awful and I really didn't want to ever be that lady.
Wanted down under has a lot to answer for.

RunnerDown · 02/09/2021 08:55

Just be aware op , that mumsnet is very anti SNP and independence and brands anyone who thinks otherwise as stupid,
I’ve lived in Scotland all my life. Most of the people I know support independence and don’t think Scotland has gone massively downhill or changed much. You are getting a very biased view and I wouldn’t base you decision on these statements. It’s very hard to know what will happen if we do get independence but it’s going to be an awful few years throughout the U.K. because of the governments mishandling of the pandemic and the total shambles that is Brexit. I am in disbelief at people who will move from Scotland to England send think things will be better there.
I don’t know about education as my children are much older now. Prices for property are high at the moment though and houses go for 10-20% over the asking price. Unless you get a new build you will be in a bidding war, and so you need a deposit and spare cash over and above that.

Rangoon · 02/09/2021 09:13

I'm a New Zealander but my parents were Irish. I know my mother felt homesick at times but she made her choice and stayed because she thought it gave the family more opportunities than we would have had otherwise. It can be hard to make friends but I think you might find exactly the same in Scotland with a five year break. Can I suggest you concentrate your friendship efforts on other new immigrants. A lot of my mother's friends were also immigrants. New arrivals won't have friend circles yet and might be grateful for new friends in a new country. You can make your own friendship circle that way.

50ShadesOfCatholic · 02/09/2021 09:23

Huge respect to you for trying so hard to make a go of it.

An idea: what about if you buy a property in Australia, in a border town where prices are low but projected to rise, let it out and go back to Scotland? That way you have a foot on the property ladder and are still free to set up again in Scotland?

Cyrsethatballoon · 02/09/2021 09:52

How is it a zombie thread, it's from May this year??! Come back OP and update please!

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