To think 'celebrating your curves' is becoming a worrying trend?

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So many of my overweight 'friends' on facebook are joining in the whole "I'm embracing my curves and loving this body, every inch"
The thing is they are Obese, not use a little overyweight but really fat. The more people see and read things like this the more it will become normalised.

Worrying times ahead I think. We're going to be a very fat country in the not too distant future.
I know it's hard to lose weight. I know lockdown has made lots put weight, I'm a little overweight myself but I will never say I'm happy with it because I'm not! I like being thin, I want to be thin.

For the love of God stop normalising and celebrating obesity.

I agree with you OP. Curvy, healthy women with a body in proportion should absolutely be celebrated. You don’t have to be a size 10 to be healthy and “body positive”.
Morbidly obese women (and men) who are at a huge risk for other health conditions should not be promoted IMO. There was a discussion about this a while ago about a magazine cover that Tess Holliday was fronting (plus size model). I really don’t think that image is one we want to encourage our daughters to aim for. It’s just not healthy.

@Fr0thandBubble

OP I bet you my bottom dollar that the only people voting "YABU" are themselves overweight.

I voted YABU. I am well within the healthy weight range for my height and have been all my life.

You owe OP your bottom dollar.

Cont... just as much as underweight women/men at risk of health conditions shouldn’t be celebrated either. No difference than the heroin chic era IMO.

I think many have lost sight of what a healthy weight is. Children have to be weighed at school now which is worrying.

Being obese or over the bmi range isn’t healthy even if a person is happy with their body.

Oh, stick it in your ear. What a mean spirited friend you are.

[quote QueenPaw]@huuuuunnnndderrricks of course she's heavier, she's had a baby! Not to mention pandemic and all[/quote]
So that's another thing we can blame covid for...obesity...at a time whenever it was warned that obesity put people at higher risk of poor outcomes from covid surely the opposite should have happened. Just because gyms were closed didn't mean people couldn't eat healthy and do exercise.
We should never normalise obesity as it leads to poor health outcomes. It might be harsh but people need to realise it. People's opinions of what is a healthy weight are considerably wrong these days you see it on many threads in relation to children being told they are overweight by health care professionals but people saying 'no they aren't they are just well built' it will do none of those children any favours not to recognise and accept that yes they are overweight.

64% of uk adults are now overweight now.

Plenty of unhealthy things are celebrated in our society, sadly. Drinking, social media, working long hours... We're not a healthy country.

No but we're in 2021. in the nineties obesity was very rare

Not heard of ‘heroin chic’ then OP?

I’m fat. Obese, actually. I don’t need to also hate myself and flagellate myself for it. I already know, I have eyes. Fat people are allowed to like themselves without constantly having to justify their existence and their intentions to get skinny.

No but we're in 2021. in the nineties obesity was very rare

Riiiiiight.

You said no one ever celebrated thinness. I point you to 90s heroin chic and 00s size 0. These were aspirational catwalk trends.It wasn’t that long ago.

Would you prefer obese people to hate their bodies and hide away? Do their bodies offend your eyes? Imagine being so hateful that it bothers you that someone loves their body!?

What a nasty post.

I agree OP, nothing wrong with curves in proportion, but obesity isn’t healthy and shouldn’t be celebrated. We have all got used to seeing / accepting ourselves larger than we need to be ( myself included).
If you look at footage / photos from the 70s/80s you will see how much slimmer we all were.
I don’t want to shame anyone but we all need to accept fat isn’t healthy

Let me assure you most of us are being shamed for being obese. Does that make you feel better?!

If one of the twats wants my health issues I'd gladly give them to them & go back to being 45kg wet through.

But no they just want to judge find me lacking. So DFO

Because hating your body is associated with weight loss?
We know it’s not.
We know diets and intermittent fasting and low carb and all the rest of that crap don’t work for long term weight loss or health
We know the greatest predictor of childhood obesity is parental concern about childhood obesity.
We know people are healthier if they become competent eaters ie they limit their diet through taste, preference and appetite and exercise for pleasure and health.

It seems you want fat people to worry about being fat, to hate themselves. Why? Why does it concern you? NHS costs? Surely balanced out by excess, early mortality. Their health? Not your business, they want to be sick and die young, up to them. Aesthetics? Bit shallow.

I think there are a lot of people on mumsnet whose only self worth is based on the fact they are slim. They have nothing else, no other sense of themselves as valuable. They focus a lot of their time and energy on food and exercise and people celebrating fat bodies must make them question why they’re wasting their lives on this really essentially pointless activity.

Perhaps they would do better to focus on developing an inner happiness not related to weight and to find a more interesting hobby. Being slim may save the NHS money but there is much more that could be contributed to society than that.

This is a hard topic for me to answer. I am obese, for context.
On the one hand- absolutely people should not be fat shamed, or feel they hate their bodies because they are overweight. We need to move away from stick thin models to a more "normal" average body size in advertisement etc.
But should we celebrate being overweight as healthy? I don't think so. It's not physically healthy to be obese anymore than it is to be very underweight. I also don't think "curves" = obesity.
Maybe this makes no sense, it's just my jumbled thoughts really. I think you both are and are not being UR. It's not UR to think obesity is unhealthy, it's also UR for them to to do whatever they want to do.

It's a tricky one, tbh, OP.

Do I think, as a society, we need more realistic expectations of women's bodies? Absolutely! There is too much pressure to be perfect when we all know that having cellulite/saggy bits/flabby bits/out-of-proportion bits is all perfectly normal.

That said, there are some disturbing messages coming out of folks in the Body Positive at the moment that bother me. I know of people who heavily push the 'you can be fat and fit' message to discourage obese women from trying to lose weight. Maybe it's OK to carry an extra stone or even a couple of stone. But we all know that being a size 30 is not a healthy option for anyone. I pass no judgement on anyone who is obese because, frankly, I'm no supermodel myself. But let's not delude ourselves into thinking it's a healthy lifestyle option.

YABVVU. It may come as a shock to you but not every women yearns to be a size 0. Shock horror but some people are and indeed allowed to be fat and happy. Are you so perfect

Why not you only live once, if you can't change it except it life is short.

How kind of you OP to condescendingly agree that “everyone is entitled to love themselves”, even if they are overweight. I agree with PPs, you come across as a real b*tch!

@jumpbounce agree .. plus she had a baby ages ago !
I'm not fat shaming but she in particular makes being fat fashionable by saying she is a plus size model etc . She isn't healthy and it's dangerous that people copy her .. I personally don't care what size anyone is but to normalise and moreover promote it isn't a great idea .

And that’s the first time I have ever said that to a poster (or in fact anyone)!

You're right OP. How dare they not only not hate themselves like they should, but voice that in public. Us fatties should hide our shameful forms in a dark room, beating ourselves with sticks and screaming 'I'm so gross' at ourselves.

What a nasty post. I wouldn’t want you as a friend

I think I struggle with 'curvy' being applied to good old fashioned fat.

I am not thin. I am within healthy bmi . I'm 36/28/38, so verging on pear shaped rather than curvy. I like my body, but I love it when I am more toned, with an inch off my waist and a more defined stomach. Fat, even if hour glass, is not curvy. Curvy, to me, is Sophia Loren. I also wonder how much airbrushing is being done.

I dont see this at all. I see the consistent rise in people with eating disorders and being horribly thin, which is incredibly dangerous.