[quote BiggestJulie]@HaveringWavering you’ve doubted the intelligence of those disagreeing with you, but seem yourself not to be able to distinguish between the scientific / data part of Van Tam’s statement (incredibly safe for fully vaccinated people to meet freely/ 1:100,000 chance of catching/spreading) and the political part (but nevertheless you still have to follow the rules).
The government promised us data not dates and they have broken that promise. They (and you) are rigidly sticking to dates. A government that breaks its promise to its people does not deserve respect.
They also apparently mandate a vaccination briefing to say that you cannot change any behaviours despite being vaccinated when they know, and their officers admit, that there is no scientific reason for this. Vaccination provides protection both against illness and transmission and yet behaviours must not change? That’s a good recipe for undermining the vaccine programme. (We’ve already heard the cries of, “Why would I have the vaccine if it makes no difference?”)
Given that they tell such porkies for political reasons (it would be “unfair” to allow vaccinated people to do something different from unvaccinated people) is anyone surprised that people are starting to ignore their advice and break the laws?
(And in any case it is quite possible that these laws governing how people can interact socially and physically in their own homes will ultimately prove to have been in violation of human rights legislation.)
And yet you continue to say that if the evidence suggested revoking the law it would have already been revoked? That’s a “ha ha” from me.
Two thirds of the people on this thread, in a country where the official estimate is just over 1/1000 people have the virus (and please be clear that that includes asymptomatic cases, since the ONS stats are based on random sampling household tests) think you are unreasonable and agree that your colleagues who have decided to enjoy their bank holiday in the way they choose are not.
If you’re right, and they are selfish, cheeky fuckers endangering us all and guaranteeing further lockdowns, we’ll soon know.
If the cases and hospitalisations and deaths continue to fall next week and the week after, will you come back here and beg our pardon our pardon for calling us shameless and unintelligent?[/quote]
Nope. If cases continue to fall it will be because restrictions are still in place and have done what they need to do despite the actions of the “I’m alright Jack” brigade. As I said above, the govt have most likely factored that in to the timings already. We’d probably be legally able to have overnight stays already if people could be trusted to follow the rules better.