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To wonder what it is about “no overnight stays till 17 May” that is so hard to understand?

821 replies

HaveringWavering · 29/04/2021 16:22

So many colleagues and acquaintances merrily talking today about plans to go and stay with relatives for the bank holiday. Nobody has any shame. We’re waiting till the 17th. Does nobody care any more?

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traumatisednoodle · 29/04/2021 19:02

OFGS look at bloody Wuhan, actually look at the whole of China or Australia.

Indeed the reason they are basically COVID free and we are not is because we are so good at following the rules. (yes I am being sarcastic).

Figgygal · 29/04/2021 19:06

People don’t think rules apply to them
People think they won’t get it or give it to anyone else
People think they know better
And Many think th

Frustratedbeyondbelief · 29/04/2021 19:08

Just goes to show how little people understand about a VIRUS... it's out there now and not going away...

Go out, enjoy yourself... and don't whine when you are dying from a nasty virus that can (and will) kill you.

OR... don't. But Live a restricted life.

Personally I don't want to die so stick to the rules. Others feel differently. Or are too stupid to understand....

HaveringWavering · 29/04/2021 19:15

I’m heartened to see from the voting that (as at time of posting) a third of people agree with me. The government has probably factored in the risk that more than half of people will disobey their rules and set the timescales accordingly to account for the selfish fuckwit factor.

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ChocOrange1 · 29/04/2021 19:16

@poppycat10

It was people not following the rules that have prelonged this nightmare. 8 cases in my development, turns out a parent allowed their kid a sleepover party at Easter. We all need to do our part nobody is special

Sleepover parties are a bit different to one person staying with one other person, or one household staying with one other household.

Eight cases. Any of those hospitalised or even ill? I'm betting not.
roarfeckingroarr · 29/04/2021 19:17

I don't know anyone who gives a shit anymore about meeting indoors, in groups of six or less or staying over. Go for a walk in a city and you'll see that.

Abraxan · 29/04/2021 19:19

@HaveringWavering

They’d all be the first to complain if their employers asked them to come back to the office a millisecond before the government relaxes “work from home if possible”.
Not necessarily.

Whilst we aren't staying overnight before 17th, we will meet my parents indoors over the weekend. 4 of the 5 adult have had at least one vaccine. We use LFTs regularly, I do them twice weekly. They are travelling 3 hours each way over the weekend and the forecast isn't great. They are actually staying at my brother's house - he doesn't live there at present, only using it 'as an office' as he moved in with his partner during lockdown 1 - so it's an empty house.

The risk to us and from us, within the group, is minimal.

And I won't complain if offices ask us to return.

I teach- I've been in full time since mid March. I am CV so was home coordinating the remote learning during lockdown. I was in September to December, bar the 7 weeks I was off due to having covid myself - most likely picked up at school.
Dh is supposed to work 50/50 home and office but hates working from home. He can't wait to be allowed in the office full time officially, already goes in more under any possible excuse (he didn't when full lockdown but does not]w it's easing.
My parents might complain simply as they are both retired so can't imagine they'd be happy if someone told them they'd have to go to work again!

Sadsiblingatsea · 29/04/2021 19:19

Nanny state alert.

user1487194234 · 29/04/2021 19:19

Do what you want,and let others do what they think best
The quicker we get back to normal the better

Arrowheart · 29/04/2021 19:20

Mind your own business OP.

roarfeckingroarr · 29/04/2021 19:21

I just do not understand this sanctimonious mindset.

Letsgetreadytocrumble · 29/04/2021 19:21

@traumatisednoodle

OFGS look at bloody Wuhan, actually look at the whole of China or Australia.

Indeed the reason they are basically COVID free and we are not is because we are so good at following the rules. (yes I am being sarcastic).

Yeah, let's weld people into their homes to stop them getting out, then they can't break the rules, so no need to feel ashamed. That'll show'em.
LST · 29/04/2021 19:24

@Frustratedbeyondbelief

Just goes to show how little people understand about a VIRUS... it's out there now and not going away...

Go out, enjoy yourself... and don't whine when you are dying from a nasty virus that can (and will) kill you.

OR... don't. But Live a restricted life.

Personally I don't want to die so stick to the rules. Others feel differently. Or are too stupid to understand....

Oh give over
Letsgetreadytocrumble · 29/04/2021 19:25

@Frustratedbeyondbelief

Just goes to show how little people understand about a VIRUS... it's out there now and not going away...

Go out, enjoy yourself... and don't whine when you are dying from a nasty virus that can (and will) kill you.

OR... don't. But Live a restricted life.

Personally I don't want to die so stick to the rules. Others feel differently. Or are too stupid to understand....

Do you mean people should think like this forever? So you have to live your life under a self imposed lockdown forever, otherwise no 'whining' is allowed if you get ill from Covid?
LST · 29/04/2021 19:26

@traumatisednoodle

haveringwaveringare you happy for two families to sleep in adjoining caravans on holiday? Is it just when they step inside a house at nighttime that they become grossly irresponsible?

Yes there is a huge difference between inside and outdoors transmission. FFS we have all been doing this for 13 months- how honestly can people not know this stuff by now ?

The next unlock is a big one, kids are in school. Look at India, lets just go slow. I'd personally be happier if the next unlock was a bit more tentative.

You obviously haven't been to the campsites I've been to for the past 2 weeks.
btwwhichonespink · 29/04/2021 19:27

@Frustratedbeyondbelief

Just goes to show how little people understand about a VIRUS... it's out there now and not going away...

Go out, enjoy yourself... and don't whine when you are dying from a nasty virus that can (and will) kill you.

OR... don't. But Live a restricted life.

Personally I don't want to die so stick to the rules. Others feel differently. Or are too stupid to understand....

Some of us have managed to avoid catching this deadly, highly contagious virus for a whole year. Some of us don't know anyone who has had this deadly virus with a 99%+ survival rate. I agree some people don't understand how viruses, nor pandemics, work.

So by all means lock yourself in your house worried you might die, despite still being alive 2 deadly waves later. But don't let your fear keep everyone else locked away with you please. Those of us 'too stupid' to be quaking in our boots at this stage in the process.

Thatisnotwhatisaid · 29/04/2021 19:27

Honestly don’t see what different a few days even makes. We went to stay at FIL’s (empty) house at the coast over Easter weekend. We didn’t harm anyone or catch covid despite the fact we went a whole week before you were ‘allowed’ to visit second homes/have a holiday etc. A week before the rules changed and we, shock horror, didn’t die or harm anyone else! Can you believe it?

Honestly, the rules just drag out the pedants in society. A few days will not make a jot of difference.

btwwhichonespink · 29/04/2021 19:30

@HaveringWavering

I’m heartened to see from the voting that (as at time of posting) a third of people agree with me. The government has probably factored in the risk that more than half of people will disobey their rules and set the timescales accordingly to account for the selfish fuckwit factor.
There is nothing fucking selfish about sacrificing a year of our lives, our children's schooling, our disabled children's services, our businesses, our mental health, for more than a year for the greater good.

The government want to 'follow the science'. Well that's what (two thirds!) of the public have decided to do.

Abraxan · 29/04/2021 19:30

Personally I don't want to die so stick to the rules. Others feel differently. Or are too stupid to understand....

I stuck to the rules.

I still caught covid, most likely from school where I was told I was safe enough to be in close contact, with no social distancing, no masks, etc despite being CV. Clearly it wasn't hence being so poorly, needing hospital treatment, being off work for 7 weeks and still not being fully better after 6 months.

Now I've had covid. I have had one vaccine and due the second very soon. I do twice weekly LFTs. I monitor all health issues via the Zoe app. We know that the chance of getting covid following even ie]]one dose is lower. We know that the chance of being very poorly and needing hospitalisation even after one dose is very low. We know that the risk of transmission, if I did catch it, after having had one dose of the vaccine is also much lower, approx halved.

The risk from me and to me is currently very very low.

XenoBitch · 29/04/2021 19:32

@Frustratedbeyondbelief

Just goes to show how little people understand about a VIRUS... it's out there now and not going away...

Go out, enjoy yourself... and don't whine when you are dying from a nasty virus that can (and will) kill you.

OR... don't. But Live a restricted life.

Personally I don't want to die so stick to the rules. Others feel differently. Or are too stupid to understand....

The only Covid deaths I know of were people that were following the rules. They caught Covid in hospital.

The rules reduce the risk, not eliminate it...

ThetaSigma · 29/04/2021 19:32

People should definitely wait until it magically becomes safe at 12:01am on 17 May.

HaveringWavering · 29/04/2021 19:33

Honestly, the rules just drag out the pedants in society. A few days will not make a jot of difference.

The hospitality industry is haemorrhaging money. Every single day of not allowing pubs to be at full capacity indoors makes a difference to people’s businesses. Do you really think that the Government would be drawing this out if they didn’t believe that there were compelling health reasons to do so?

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SummerHouse · 29/04/2021 19:33

I like discovering that a person bemoaning another for selfish flouting of rules, is breaking the rules themselves in a different, but (in their head) totally justifiable way. It's my favourite.

rainbowandglitter · 29/04/2021 19:34

I'm totally with you op.

Tossblanket · 29/04/2021 19:34

Couldn't care less now.

Bored of rules, bored of being told what to do. Bored of never ending scare tactics of this mutation or that mutation.

We were supposed to flatten the curve, we did.
Then it was something else, then something else.
I'm just about fucked with it now.