Doyou care about Boris Johnson's constant lying?

[Kendodd]

My theory is that voters don't care.

@beachsidecafe

What an utter cunt Boris Johnson is

What a crass and disgusting thing to say about anyone!

Seriously no one agrees with you. Look at the polls! Even with this stupid witch hunt the conservatives are still miles ahead. People are not stupid, they know they nasty campaign to undermine someone when they see it.

The vaccine roll out has been a total success, we are coming out of lockdown that is all people really care about. Not the wallpaper folks.

Actually a lot of the electorate are ill informed and uneducated about politics. A fair number are pretty stupid too.

@beachsidecafe

What an utter cunt Boris Johnson is

What a crass and disgusting thing to say about anyone!

Seriously no one agrees with you. Look at the polls! Even with this stupid witch hunt the conservatives are still miles ahead. People are not stupid, they know they nasty campaign to undermine someone when they see it.

The vaccine roll out has been a total success, we are coming out of lockdown that is all people really care about. Not the wallpaper folks.

You're wrong, lots of people agree.

I don't care about the wallpaper, I care about a corrupt government.

People aren't stupid? Matter of opinion, they have low standards for sure.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-bmg-poll-lead-b1839148.html

People like Boris, they are happy with the world beating vaccine programme. This campaign may have the opposite effect of making him the underdog and therefore making even more appealing. So you do you. Shitty motives and dirty campaigns often backfire.

So if Sunak became PM and moved into the Johnson flat at No. 11 and spent another £200,000 ripping out Carrie's gaudy gold leaf wallpaper and spent his own money on it, which he could afford to do, because his wife is minted, then it would be OK.

It might not send a good message to those people in high rise flats with Grenfell style cladding, who have properties they can't sell now, but he wouldn't be open to accusations of corruption in the same way as Johnson is.

The PM has spent his own money on refurbishing Downing Street. NOT the tax payers cash.

Yh. That's not the problem is it Mr Gove. It's where he got the money in the first place and whether it should've been declared as a political donation. Gove tying himself in knots to defend Johnson whilst not actually telling an outright lie but bending the truth. Johnson just lying as it's his default setting.
All of them, dishonest as the day is long.

People care about lots of things, Beach.

Hungry kids
Cladding
Corruption
Waste of taxpayers money
Losing FoM
Fishing
Northern Ireland
Human rights

I could go on

Anyone would think that Johnson had personally gone round jabbing people's arms. The success of the vaccine roll out is largely down to NHS staff - those people who he decided only needed a 1% pay rise to reward their efforts.

I am checking out of this insipid, bitter and nasty thread. Labour have no chance with Starmer the waxwork, and you know it. So good luck to you all, because no one is ever going to vote for a party that doesn't stand for anything at all, and is weaker than ever. We have no idea what Labour even means anymore. They have completely lost their way, and until that changes, along with a leader that can actually lead and inspire, you are doomed to failure after failure I am afraid.

Say what you like about Boris, but he is known all over the world, everyone knows who he is. An effusive and inspiring PM that makes his mark, most of us know he is a good egg. You can call him whatever you like, but it doesn't change the fact that he is very popular, and that is why we see such hatred and coordinated campaigns against him.

You won't win, not with shabby rag tag opposition that has no policies or direction. So I expect the conservatives to win all over the country again.

And it looks like 74% think YABU op!!

So I am in good company. Bye folks

@beachsidecafe

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-bmg-poll-lead-b1839148.html

People like Boris, they are happy with the world beating vaccine programme. This campaign may have the opposite effect of making him the underdog and therefore making even more appealing. So you do you. Shitty motives and dirty campaigns often backfire.

It depends who’s coordinating it. It’s well understood that these things are targeted at the apathetic and fence sitters. They’re not trying to change anyone’s mind, they’re trying to recruit the unallocated.

It's where he got the money in the first place and whether it should've been declared as a political donation.

When we know that he is strapped for cash, finding it difficult to live on a salary of £150,000 p.a. How likely is it that he had a spare £58,000 knocking around?

It begins to look like the gross extravagance of the Ceaușescu's in Romania. That did not end well for that unsavoury pair.

Mr Gove said: "The PM has spent his own money on refurbishing Downing Street. NOT the tax payers cash

Lets be clear Brown DID spend many tens of thousands actually. So your pp are incorrect

Rubbish!
Bojo won't tell us, hence another inquiry into his spending (there are several now) and Gove is another liar, lied about his parents fishing business collapsing due to the EU, when infact his dad sold out it for a good profit.

Has a 30k tax payer funded budget, just like Brown etc used..

However, regardless of wrong doing, the PM being the defense, prosecution, judge and jury, really is something very wrong.

That needs to change.

You can't win -not with shabby rag tag opposition that has no policies or direction- because the media barons and archaic voting system will always prop up the Tories even if a large majority of the country votes against them

Fixed it for you.

@beachsidecafe

And it looks like 74% think YABU op!!

So I am in good company. Bye folks

People have voted on this thread based on the OP’s question ‘am I wrong to think people don’t care?” - and you’re interpreting that as supportive of Boris/Tories?

Trump was known all over the world too. Eventually though, enough American's woke up and voted in Mr Bland. Admittedly, Starmer isn't in his category, Biden had had years of experience in American politics.

"Say what you like about Boris, but he is known all over the world, everyone knows who he is. An effusive and inspiring PM that makes his mark, most of us know he is a good egg."

I despair.

@beachsidecafe

And it looks like 74% think YABU op!!

So I am in good company. Bye folks

The OP's stated that their theory was most people didn't care about Boris Johnson's lying. And 74% have responded to tell her that, no, they do care about the fact that their country is being run by a man whose greatest consistency is his dishonesty.

@beachsidecafe

I am checking out of this insipid, bitter and nasty thread. Labour have no chance with Starmer the waxwork, and you know it. So good luck to you all, because no one is ever going to vote for a party that doesn't stand for anything at all, and is weaker than ever. We have no idea what Labour even means anymore. They have completely lost their way, and until that changes, along with a leader that can actually lead and inspire, you are doomed to failure after failure I am afraid.

Say what you like about Boris, but he is known all over the world, everyone knows who he is. An effusive and inspiring PM that makes his mark, most of us know he is a good egg. You can call him whatever you like, but it doesn't change the fact that he is very popular, and that is why we see such hatred and coordinated campaigns against him.

You won't win, not with shabby rag tag opposition that has no policies or direction. So I expect the conservatives to win all over the country again.

Boris is known all over the world as a corrupt idiot. I agree that Labour have lost their way and need to be much more effective in opposition. But that doesn’t change the fact that this government is rotten to the core . The Good Law project and every doctor are trying to expose all this in court. I’m sure Dominic Cummings has more evidence to give to the select committee. So hopefully it won’t matter that he is still inexplicably popular with voters who don’t look beyond the tabloid headlines. The truth will come out. He is already rattled. And any rightminded person should be furious that this entitled twat thinks it’s fine to siphon off taxpayers money to give to his cronies while putting peoples lives at risk

I thought this was interesting from the YouGov poll

"The Tories’ overall lead comes despite more than half of the respondents agreeing that the Tories are “very sleazy and disreputable” and almost a third saying that they consider Johnson to be less honest than other politicians.
Half of voters think that Johnson did say he would rather see “bodies pile high” than put England into a third lockdown, despite his strenuous denials, with a quarter believing him."

(Lifted from Times article).

So currently voters might be willing to vote Conservative with Johnson at the helm. But I do wonder where the tipping point will be.

I'm old enough to remember the Conservative's being buried under allegations of sleaze. I'd imagine that the party won't be prepared for its MP's to attract similar headlines for a protracted period. Certainly the Daily Mail headlines have made interesting reading this week.

Cummings in the Select Committee next month could be worth watching.

I do think the Conservatives must be able to drum up a leader without the unpleasant history of lies.

@HarrietPierce

"Say what you like about Boris, but he is known all over the world, everyone knows who he is. An effusive and inspiring PM that makes his mark, most of us know he is a good egg."

I despair.

It was written by Carrie-Antoinette, no?

Boris's personal values are of less concern to me than the the thought that very powerful people, almost certainly connected to the global super-elite, have put him there for a reason.

@beachsidecafe she lives in cloud cuckooland. I recognised her name from previous posts recently and the description smug and self satisfied comes to mind so her attitude to BJ is to be expected.

goodlawproject.org/update/awarded-contracts-vip-lane/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social%20media&utm_campaign=ppe%20hearing%202904
I’m angry about the curtains but absolutely livid about this . The names of companies given contracts to make PPE during the pandemic. And companies who understood how to do this safety were ignored. And health care workers died - partly due to inadequate PPE.
But yeh - he’s a good egg really. Not guilty of manslaughter

People are not stupid, they know they nasty campaign to undermine someone when they see it.

People are stupid, or maybe easily misled, if they believe this is about wallpaper colours rather than transparency and accountability.

at least 127,000 Covid deaths, particularly in the early days when it ripped through Care homes but Johnson was too busy sorting out his divorce to attend meetings to sort it out (i.e. to do the job he was paid for.)

Boris Johnson agreed his divorce settlement in court on the 18th Feb 2020. On the 17th Feb 202, Professor Devi Sridhar (Nicola Sturgeon's Covid advisor) retweeted this:

Devi Sridhar - 3:45 PM · Feb 17, 2020

WHO clearly saying it is NOT calling #COVID19 a pandemic b/c majority of cases are in China & majority of cases outside of China have direct link to China. DrMikeRyan#factsnotfear.

note the # facts not fear.

And in any case - the prime minister was not expected to chair the early COBRA meetings:

the Independent review into the response to the 2009 swine flu pandemic: ...

The committee, and the structures that support it (frequently referred to as COBRA in the media), are the UK government’s dedicated crisis management mechanism .... In the event of an influenza pandemic, the committee would therefore normally be chaired by the Secretary of State for Health.

The Exercise Cygnus report [Tier One Command Post Exercise Pandemic Influenza 2016] -
The exercise activity was based around four simulated COBR[A] meetings - chaired by the Secretary of State for Health and the Minister for the Cabinet Office.